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<norayr> i tried macchanger as mentioned on wiki, but it looks like icd freaks out when i use it.
<norayr> and nothing connects since i change the mac.
<Wizzup> nothing connects = ?
<norayr> no wifi network connects when i use macchanger.
<norayr> icd doesn't connect to wifi networks anymore.
<norayr> i think it remembers the mac and when it is changed, it freaks out?
<norayr> let me try again.
<norayr> well, right now macchanger -a or -r wlan0 returns
<norayr> [ERROR] Could not change MAC: interface up or insufficient permissions: Device or resoure busy.
<norayr> with root
<norayr> aha, i disconnected wifi, went to offline mode, and macchanger worked
<norayr> but now icd doesn't connect to the known wifi.
<norayr> now i need to reboot to be able to use wifi again. :/
<norayr> please try to repeat it.
<Wizzup> maybe file a bug
<Wizzup> what happens if you restart icd2?
<norayr> oh, how to do that?
<norayr> is the script in /etc/init.d ?
<Wizzup> sudo service icd2 restart
<maxwelld> let me try
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<Wizzup> norayr: I assume ifname does not get changed
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<maxwelld> so no only reboot helped.
<maxwelld> let me try
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<asinnerm3> Hi, am trying to run maemo-leste on Virtual Box but apparently am here because am unable to figure out how to run it, I downloaded the latest maemo-chimaera.vdi tried to create the VB but it is asking me for the iso, so apparently am doing something wrong in the creation, am on VB 7 on windows 10
<buZz> asinnerm3: maybe remove the cdrom drive from your VM?
<buZz> i'll try aswell, with maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-20230423.vdi.xz
<asinnerm3> I chose to boot from other, I will retry and create the VB am doing something wrong but am unable to figure out what
<buZz> boots for me
<buZz> did you unpack the .xz file?
<buZz> should unpack into a 3GB file
<sixwheeledbeast> sounds like a vbox issue.
<buZz> and i removed the IDE controller / cddrive completely
<sixwheeledbeast> for vdi files, I would usually create a new VM > Linux > Other. Then use existing virtual disk file and select the vdi.
<buZz> hmhm, i used 'debian 11 64bit' , anything should work i guess
<asinnerm3> on wiki it says debian 64 but i will retry and create
<sixwheeledbeast> It's flexible in this case obviously Win or Mac will not work.
<asinnerm3> it worked finally
<asinnerm3> this time i chose linux other 64 as @sixwheeledbeast suggested and following @buZz setting screenshot
<buZz> w00t
<buZz> mameo :D
<buZz> hehe
<asinnerm3> now it is stuck on here
<asinnerm3> oh wait i named it mameo? lol type and let go lol
<asinnerm3> and now am getting a VB exeption error and it is not starting
<buZz> maybe read the error? :)
<asinnerm3> i think vb 7 is still bugged on win10? had to restart the vm and it booted again, but still maemo is not loading and getting stuck at "waiting for /dev to be fully populated
<buZz> what if you wait for 5 minutes on that msg?
<asinnerm3> am gonna wait and see
<asinnerm3> on here https://imgur.com/a/Hx2dYU7
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<asinnerm3> apparently it is stuck at this stage
<asinnerm3> either windows version is buggy, or some setting needs to be changed, might try that either on mac or linux
<buZz> bizar, havent seen that
<asinnerm3> worked now, i unchecked the 3d acceleration as i did enable it when i created the VM
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<asinner-m3> my god how i missed this DE
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<Wizzup> :)
<Wizzup> asinner-m3: did you attend CORS/CLUC?
<Wizzup> DORS/CLUC*
<asinner-m3> Wizzup no I wish i can
<Wizzup> ah, check :)
<asinner-m3> between how do you see the mouse cursor so you one don't guess where to click
<Wizzup> I think this should just work, depending on what input device is seen in virtualbox
<Wizzup> buZz: do you use virtualbox?
<buZz> no, only tried it now
<buZz> to confirm 'it works' for asinner-m3
<buZz> i dont know how to press the powerbutton for instance :D
<Wizzup> do you seen a mouse cursor?
<buZz> i did not
<buZz> but no idea if thats a mistake on my config, or something i could/should change on the VM image
<asinner-m3> guess i should check the settings again, and i have an idea if i got a lte extension and plugged it in the pc and inserted my sim card in it will it work?
<asinner-m3> acpi shutdown for screen unlock
<asinner-m3> under machine tab
<buZz> ah :)
<buZz> asinner-m3: i dont think it will work to just pass a usb modem to maemo vm, it needs quite some specifics to work
<sicelo> power button - the hypervisor should provide that ...
<asinner-m3> have not yet checked the mouse settings
<buZz> but, it might, who knows
<asinner-m3> once update is done am gonna change the mouse pointer settings to something else and see if it change for mouse cursor view
<Wizzup> asinner-m3: basically if the VM sees a touch screen or absolute input device, it does not show the cursor
<Wizzup> if it sees a mouse or relative input device, it will show the cursor
<sixwheeledbeast> as default there is no mouse from when i tested it. Not sure if there is an option for that
<sixwheeledbeast> the screen also blanks and locks which is awkward if you don't realise what's happening.
<sicelo> in mine, it shows a message when screen is blanked
<sicelo> and i have a mouse pointer ... in qemu invocation, i have `-usb -device usb-tablet`
<asinner-m3> i had the mouse captured in the vm for it to show within the VM, granted once in the vm you cannot drag it outside the window
<sicelo> that's a hypervisor issue, i think ...
<asinner-m3> was thinking to change the mouse setting and see what change
<sicelo> in fact I qemu, it doesn't even need to grab
<asinner-m3> yeah might be my mouse setting option within the vm, will shutdown and change it
<asinner-m3> changing the settings did change the need t grab the mouse for it to show within the vb so far
<Wizzup> sicelo: I think that depends on the qemu frontend you use
<Wizzup> if you use vnc then you will not see the pointer I think, but qemu-gtk you will
<Wizzup> something weird like that
<Wizzup> as in, you see the host pointer, not the guest one
<Wizzup> but that's just a guess
<Wizzup> in any case when we figure it out we ought to update the wiki page
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<asinner-m3> still trying to find different settings, maybe it is the VBOX thing or the fact that am actually using the built in touchpad? i will try to insert a usb mouse and play with the settings
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<asinner-m3> found a small trick, if you use the scroll wheel within the virtual box the cursor will flash for a sec to know where you are about
<asinner-m3> if you don't wanna use the grab mouse option
<sicelo> in some cases the hypervisor may need you to install some stuff in the guest for certain features to work, e.g. to remove need to grab mouse
<Wizzup> can you run 'xinnput list'
<Wizzup> 'xinput list'
<asinner-m3> sure
<asinner-m3> guess am gonna need to install the xinput
<Wizzup> yes
<Wizzup> hmm, so maybe you have two mice?
<Wizzup> what if you do xinput disable 9
<Wizzup> (you can undo that with xinput enable 9)
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<asinner-m3> sure will try, i guess now it sees my laptop trackpad and my wireless mouse
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<sicelo> i wonder who's Leon
<Wizzup> cool
<asinner-m3> Wizzup: https://imgur.com/a/pXL4NpI
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<Wizzup> asinner-m3: do you see the cursor now?
<asinner-m3> Wizzup: i confirm i see it
<asinner-m3> and can interact
<Wizzup> so did it solve your problem?
<asinner-m3> yes
<asinner-m3> wait no
<asinner-m3> i cannot interact, the mouse show but no longer can click
<asinner-m3> well it is interacting but not clicking
<asinner-m3> if i click on the main desktop the setting option appear but i cannot left click anything so far
<Wizzup> ah, ok
<Wizzup> can you enable it and disable the other one?
<asinner-m3> what is the keyboard shortcut to start the terminal
<asinner-m3> nevermind i grabbed the mouse to enable 9
<asinner-m3> what was the other?
<Wizzup> 11 I think
<asinner-m3> yeah i disabled it
<asinner-m3> but i lost the mouse within the VM even grabbed
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> hmm
<asinner-m3> enabled it
<asinner-m3> in the VM settings am using the PS2 mouse option
<Wizzup> what other options are there for the vm settings?
<asinner-m3> let me check
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<asinner-m3> usb tablet, usb multi-touch tablet, usb MT touchscreen and touchpad
<asinner-m3> ps/2 mouse obviously
<asinner-m3> wouldn't it make sense to use the touchscreen touchpad option in this case
<asinner-m3> well i chose the usb mt touchscreen and touchpad same need to capture the mouse to work
<sicelo> libicd-network-dummy still has the issue where you need to do some extra work for it to show up in connection dialog?
<asinner-m3> am wondering if i added a filter in the usb option for the mouth would that make any difference!!!
<sicelo> you could try :-)
<sicelo> or, you could use FOSS hypervisor - qemu
<asinner-m3> sicelo: I never tried qemu, will look into it
<sicelo> i think there's nowadays libvirt and a lot of front-ends for it. should be even easier
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<asinner-m3> add the mouse to the filter, the system show that it see it but the system (maemo) did not recognize it as if it was disabled
<asinner-m3> working with trackpad since even windows now does not recognized because that usb port is used by the VB filter
<asinner-m3> interestingly mouse wheel works but xinput now show it as keyboard and mouse and i blame the receiver since this is a wireless mouse
<Wizzup> are you saying that just the touchpad (with wireles not plugged in) does work?
<asinner-m3> not within the VB client
<asinner-m3> same as if the USB is not there, I plugged a usb mouse now to see if anything changes but no, once i add the filter maemo seems to be confused what it is!!! so scrolling work but the mouse pointer does not move
<asinner-m3> so far i could not find a way to make it work within and outside the vb simultaneously it is either grabbed or wont show the cursor, but do work (hidden) when not grabbed
<asinner-m3> thank you all for all the help to get me started with maemo-leste with VB, cheers for now
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