<buZz>
uvos__: could you add those two middle tabs on maseratiBatteryAdapter.tar.xz ? then we could maybe turn it into a product, so people could add a thermistor thats the right value, maybe some BMS for safety , and easily adopt new cells
<buZz>
when i say product, i just mean some howto send to to pcbway/something to order flex pcbs yourself :)
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<uvos__>
buZz: not so easy
<uvos__>
from memory: the tabs have to be raised relative to the screw holes
<uvos__>
you cant really do that with a pcb, you would need to add pads to the pcb and then solder some copper blocks to those or something like that
<uvos__>
also the way the current design works
<uvos__>
you have to have the copper layer up towards the battery door
<uvos__>
so you can solder the batery wires to the pcb
<uvos__>
if you flipp it over it would short against the rf shield
<freemangordon>
uvos__: re ofono logs - did you set both variables I told you?
<uvos__>
so you would have to do a 2 layer design
<uvos__>
freemangordon: yes i added -d /etc/default/ofono*
<uvos__>
and the envvar to /etc/init.d/ofono
<uvos__>
did it not work?
<freemangordon>
as I see only qmy logs, but not at ones
<uvos__>
ok
<uvos__>
hmm
<uvos__>
maybe i did something wrong
<uvos__>
i dident know what your soupposed to see in the log
<freemangordon>
when you have both set, one can see both qmi and at traces in ofono.log
<freemangordon>
now it is very hard (if possible at all) to match ofono vs n_gsm logs
<uvos__>
cat /etc/default/ofono
<uvos__>
DAEMON_OPTS=-d
<uvos__>
cat /etc/init.d/ofono
<uvos__>
...
<uvos__>
export OFONO_QMI_DEBUG=1
<uvos__>
something missing?
<freemangordon>
yes, I said two vars :)
<uvos__>
oh ok
<uvos__>
whats the other one?
<freemangordon>
sec
<buZz>
uvos__: maybe one of those pcb houses that also does manufacturing can add something liek that?
<buZz>
heh yes, 250 usd for 10x 40x10mm flexpcb with stiffener and 2 SMD parts (thermistor and whatever lump of copper?)
<buZz>
oh wait, without pcb assembly the 10x 40x10mm flexpcb are 210 usd
<buZz>
maybe i have expensive options selected :P
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<buZz>
~135 usd for 100x 40x10mm flexpcb, 2 layers, 0.23mm with a 0.1mm stiffener
<buZz>
and assembled with 2 unique parts -> 540 usd for 100 pieces
<buZz>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<buZz>
uvos__: what about just 'solder something of copper here' as instruction? :P
<uvos__>
sure
<uvos__>
very small though
<uvos__>
for agv people
<uvos__>
freemangordon: ok ill regrab the logs in ~2h
<freemangordon>
ok
<uvos__>
freemangordon: i gues for the sms log its not relevant
<uvos__>
as dmseg dosent show any at commands during this time?
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<buZz>
uvos__: i'm not against distributing such pcbs, and also feel able to solder blobs and thermistors to it
<buZz>
but not sure if thats the best goal to target, but 100 pcbs are the same price as 10
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<freemangordon>
uvos__: if possible, clean the old logs before capturing new ones
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<uvos__>
freemangordon: i got the logs
<uvos__>
i deleted the ofono log right before
<uvos__>
they are in te same place on my host
<uvos__>
the *2.log ones
<uvos__>
the logs are from boot
<freemangordon>
thanks
<uvos__>
through sim unlock (yes i misstyped the pin once - this is not important)
<uvos__>
then it connects
<uvos__>
and then it looses signal
<uvos__>
(not pictured) restarting ofono at that point gets the signal back
<uvos__>
i presume i dont need to recapture the sms problem (incomeing sms are allawys stuck in pending)
<uvos__>
since this dosent seam to touch the at interface at all
<uvos__>
OUTGOING not incomeing sry
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<freemangordon>
uvos__: so, it does not understand when the signal is recovered?
<freemangordon>
is this the major issue?
<uvos__>
it never reconnects unless a restart is issued
<uvos__>
so either 1. its not instructing the modem to try and search for a netwok again (but why dose qmictl show one?), 2. it dosent realise the modem has reconnected
<uvos__>
3. the modem never looses signal at all
<uvos__>
if its 1 or 2, why dose the modem allways loose network registration right after ofono starts?
<uvos__>
(the first time)
<freemangordon>
do you have some timestamp of the lost signal?
<uvos__>
hmm not sure how to do that
<uvos__>
maybe tirgger on some dbus singal?
<freemangordon>
ok, no issue
<uvos__>
ok so looks like the network is indeed lost right after ofono starts
<uvos__>
if you watch qmicli
<uvos__>
it goes to state
<freemangordon>
what state?
<uvos__>
not-registerd-seaarching for a while
<freemangordon>
ok
<uvos__>
and then it reconnects (as shown by qmicli)
<freemangordon>
I guess it is this "Oct 4 12:20:51 localhost ofonod[3308]: drivers/qmimodem/network-registration.c:event_notify() signal with -1%(-125 dBm) on 4"
<uvos__>
(possible also messing with qmicli here changes the result)
<uvos__>
since it wakes the modem
<freemangordon>
and then "drivers/qmimodem/network-registration.c:extract_ss_info() roaming 2 lac -1 cellid -1 tech -1"
<uvos__>
if i really do loose connection by leaving the range of a tower
<uvos__>
it dosent seam to ever find a new one after that
<freemangordon>
ok
<uvos__>
i again have to restart ofono for it to get it back
<freemangordon>
I will try to re-create by putting it in the fridge
<freemangordon>
or wrapping with a foil
<uvos__>
microwave works well
<uvos__>
(just dont turn it on :D)
<freemangordon>
uvos__: oh, btw, is there aby way to have a stable usb connection?
<freemangordon>
*a way
<uvos__>
usb otg?
<freemangordon>
no
<uvos__>
or slave
<freemangordon>
slave
<freemangordon>
with networking
<freemangordon>
it disconnects here every now and then
<uvos__>
there is some issue with it dissconnecting when cpcap-charger changes charge state
<freemangordon>
making it a nightmare to debug radio issues
<uvos__>
maybe interferance
<freemangordon>
maye rmmod cpcap-charger?
<uvos__>
just dont use cpcap-charger and power the device some other way
<uvos__>
freemangordon: just disable charge current in sysfs
<freemangordon>
ok
<freemangordon>
thanks
<uvos__>
is sufficant
<uvos__>
as a workaround
<freemangordon>
this is /usb node, right
<freemangordon>
the limit
<uvos__>
right
<freemangordon>
charge_current_limit?
<freemangordon>
ok
<freemangordon>
ttyl
<uvos__>
pretty sure yes
<uvos__>
ttyl
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<freemangordon>
hmm, cannot make it lose signal :(
<freemangordon>
wripping it in foild does not help
<freemangordon>
*wrapping
<freemangordon>
fridge does not help either
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<freemangordon>
uvos: please unlock the device, stop mce and try to repro
<freemangordon>
though I don't see SCRN command
<freemangordon>
hmm
<freemangordon>
still, make sure mce has send SCRN at least once
<freemangordon>
and then unlock, stop mce ane see if it still the same
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<freemangordon>
uvos: what "and then it looses signal" is supposed to mean? there are no bars in hildon-status menu? or the place there of gsm is empty?
<freemangordon>
*fir gsm
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<freemangordon>
uvos: oh, ok, I can reproduce it by doing AT+SCRN=0 and then switching the technology
<freemangordon>
it might happen that it will receive CREG or other stuff when issuing SCRN
<freemangordon>
so ofono will miss events
<freemangordon>
also, if we fall of the network, we must issue SCRN=1, otherwise CREG never comes
<freemangordon>
I need to think a while how to integrate ofono with screen lock
<freemangordon>
do you know what does android do?
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<Wizzup>
freemangordon: well, what should set scrn=0 then?
<freemangordon>
"(19,16,41) freemangordon: I need to think a while how to integrate ofono with screen lock"
<freemangordon>
:)
<freemangordon>
IOW- no idea
<freemangordon>
but kernel does not seem to copy the data to all the clients
<freemangordon>
hmm, wait
<freemangordon>
mce does not red
<freemangordon>
*read
<freemangordon>
so, scratch that
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<uvos>
freemangordon: "uvos: what "and then it looses signal" is supposed to mean? there are no bars in hildon-status menu? or the place there of gsm is empty?"
<uvos>
bars go away so dose 2g so dose the operator name
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<uvos>
ofono ./list-modems lists no connection
<uvos>
someone sets SCRN=0 on android
<uvos>
idk who presumeably its moto_ril
<uvos>
since it contains the string
<uvos>
freemangordon: it happens even when i never allow mce to turn off the display
<uvos>
so mce never sets scrn at all
<uvos>
i can also try with mce totaly disabled in a sec
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<freemangordon>
uvos: make sure SCRN=1 when you disable mce
<freemangordon>
as I said earlier - unlock, stop mce and retry
<Wizzup>
uvos: btw, did you see spinals typo fixes pr?
<buZz>
hehe
<buZz>
on what now? :P
<Wizzup>
from a few days ago I think
<buZz>
gee, not a single page on the wiki mentions sfone
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<Wizzup>
buZz: mhm, well, it's lacking quite some things (libnotify is one)
<Wizzup>
(as does conversations)
<Wizzup>
I think we usually don't mention things too explicitly unless we agree they work well enough
<Wizzup>
but maybe that's not the right approach
<buZz>
i'm planning to at least go through the extras and make pages for it
<buZz>
i think we should document what we have, as people want to use it
<Wizzup>
agreed @ extras
<Wizzup>
once sphone hits non-devel I think we ought to document it
<Wizzup>
(well)
<buZz>
we could already document it though
<Wizzup>
mhm
<Wizzup>
sure
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<buZz>
is there a easy way to query the current CellId ?
<buZz>
i'm grepping it out of iad_conndlg.log now, but feels a bit dirty :P
<Wizzup>
yeah, I will disable that soon (the debug logs)
<buZz>
ah yeah, i see what you mean, seems logical to add the others
<buZz>
freemangordon: where are you receiving CDMA_1XEVDO ?
<freemangordon>
here
<freemangordon>
well, on ofono logs
<buZz>
hehe, what nation? :)
<freemangordon>
BG
<buZz>
oh, cool :)
<freemangordon>
this is just for a moment when I switch from umts to gsm
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: sorry, what do you want to add?
<buZz>
The CDMA Development Group states that, as of April 2014, there are 314 operators in 118 countries offering CDMA2000 1X and/or 1xEV-DO service.[7][needs update]
<buZz>
my god
<buZz>
:D
<buZz>
Wizzup: extra types of QMI_NAS_NETWORK_RAT_*
<buZz>
missing ones
<freemangordon>
the missing values
<buZz>
(which is now hardcoded to -1 always? or something, i didnt understand that)
<freemangordon>
I think those missing is the reason you get -1
<buZz>
this amazed me > The CDMA Development Group states that, as of April 2014, there are 314 operators in 118 countries offering CDMA2000 1X and/or 1xEV-DO service.[7][needs update]
<buZz>
-118- countries, is almost all the countries that exist?
<buZz>
> The intended 4G successor to CDMA2000 was UMB (Ultra Mobile Broadband); however, in November 2008, Qualcomm announced it was ending development of the technology, favoring LTE instead.[8]
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: do you remember *why* that patch was needed?
<Wizzup>
yes, otherwise we get no technology reported, since cdma is second in the loop
<Wizzup>
without it you get no 2g/3g indicator
<freemangordon>
hmm, not here
<freemangordon>
here it is first
<freemangordon>
so, reverting the patch and adding missing defines should be the right fix, no?
<freemangordon>
ok, but how do we know which one to show?
<freemangordon>
like, why is cdma even reported here?
<Wizzup>
well, we want to show the one that is active/online
<freemangordon>
oh, ok, I see what you mean now:
<freemangordon>
Oct 4 19:22:06 localhost ofonod[5563]: drivers/qmimodem/gprs.c:extract_ss_info() radio in use 5
<freemangordon>
Oct 4 19:22:06 localhost ofonod[5563]: drivers/qmimodem/gprs.c:extract_ss_info() radio in use 2
<freemangordon>
so, how do select to show 5 and not 2?
<Wizzup>
don't know
<freemangordon>
umts vs cdma?
<freemangordon>
ugh
<buZz>
oooo, does that mean we could have more than just '2G' or '3G' displayed
<buZz>
but also EVDO etc
<buZz>
so fancy!
<freemangordon>
sure, but do we want to?
<freemangordon>
I don;t think so
<buZz>
i'd love it :)
<buZz>
not that i'll see anything beside GPRS here, i think
<freemangordon>
ok, I need some rest
<freemangordon>
will continue tomorrow
<freemangordon>
night!
<Wizzup>
ttyl :)
<freemangordon>
oh, a mail from andrew
<freemangordon>
obviously I won;t reply today
<freemangordon>
bye
<buZz>
sleep tight
<buZz>
Wizzup: so, what iap_conndlg.log is outputting as 'cellid' , is actually the LocationAreaCode
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<buZz>
lol, friended ham nerd thinks he can spoof a 700mhz lte network for the droid4 :P
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<Wizzup>
buZz: yes, I also have hw to do this
<buZz>
cool :)
<Wizzup>
but never didi t
<Wizzup>
I forget what it was called
<buZz>
hackRF i guess?
<buZz>
or rad1o
<Wizzup>
bladerf
<Wizzup>
was like 800 usd or so
<buZz>
ah, nice
<Wizzup>
it's just eating dust at my house for years
<Wizzup>
:(
<Wizzup>
(2 years)
<buZz>
rad1o was the badge of a cccamp, hackrf 'compatible'