<Wizzup>
hey I also get rafael's error now, wrt dbus issues
<Wizzup>
that's just a new image, and then apt-get dist-upgrade
<Wizzup>
with -devel enabled
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<_uvos_>
Wizzup: what device? i see nothing on my usual xt894/xt875 installs
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<Wizzup>
_uvos_ I solved it by installed iphbd first and then running dist-upgrade
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<freemangordon>
Wizzup: modesetting/glamor work on my q8
<Wizzup>
nice
<freemangordon>
but looks slow
<freemangordon>
despite 2 cores
<freemangordon>
2 GPU cores
<Wizzup>
mhm, is it with lima?
<freemangordon>
yes
<Wizzup>
hmm
<freemangordon>
lima?
<freemangordon>
like driver?
<Wizzup>
lima gpu
<Wizzup>
yes
<freemangordon>
mali 400
<Wizzup>
the tablet has mali400 I think
<freemangordon>
yes
<freemangordon>
gears render with ~50 fps
<freemangordon>
~55
<Wizzup>
mhm
<Wizzup>
there's so many people at the stand I am losing my voice
<freemangordon>
:)
<buZz>
Wizzup: cool!
<buZz>
take some pictures of the stand with people standing there! its good promotion to show on twitter etc
<Wizzup>
yeah I should ask someone to do that
<buZz>
<3
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<buZz>
Wizzup: be sure to tweet -during- event to invite people to the stand & talk too ;)
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<dreamer>
I think buZz wants a job in leste-PR ;)
<buZz>
dreamer: if you look at the retweets of /maemoleste , you might think i already have ;)
<dreamer>
hehe
* buZz
RTs a bunch of new-ish tweets about leste :P
<Wizzup>
buZz: sorry probably too much for me to do all at once :D
<buZz>
<3
<buZz>
np
<buZz>
such a drag always, rebooting droid4 with 'fully charged' battery, comes back up, and doesnt know how full the battery is anymore
<buZz>
:(
<buZz>
need to charge the ~1% back up to hit 'fully charged' again before it knows
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<flok>
the screensaver in the qemu image doesn't get out of screensaved mode?
<freemangordon>
press the power button
<freemangordon>
you can disable if you wish
<freemangordon>
settings->display
<freemangordon>
set timeout to 0
<flok>
oh of course, makes sense. now i have to figure out how to slide the button as my mousecursor is not visible (wasn't that documented on the wiki? let me check)
<Wizzup>
hi
<flok>
ah, usb-mouse
<Wizzup>
flok: were you at openfest today?
<flok>
no
<flok>
I was talking to buZz and he made me intriqued
<Wizzup>
ah, ok :)
<flok>
intrigued
<Wizzup>
cool
<flok>
made a few changes to the wiki (sudo su - should really be sudo -i and you need to configure an usb mouse in virt-manager)
<Wizzup>
isn't sudo -i preserving the environment?
<Wizzup>
oh right, no,
<Wizzup>
sudo su - indeed is not ideal
<flok>
just a minor pet-peeve of mine :-)
<flok>
haha cool, httping works! now I can httping on my phone! :-)
<flok>
I googled for it, but is there a list of phones that are compatible with the current maemo?
<Wizzup>
the wiki should have a list, but it's pretty short, so I can type it here:
<Wizzup>
motorola droid 4, motorola bionic, nokia n900, pinephone
<Wizzup>
there will be more motorola phones, and maybe more nokia phones added to the list later
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: does usb otg work on your olimex?
<freemangordon>
I can't make it work here and it drives me mad :D
<flok>
ok. should I still use madde if I want to develop for maemo? or can I use qtcreator (without the 2010 madde plugin) as well?
<freemangordon>
flok: VM is what we use for development
<freemangordon>
for qt stuff I guess it is tricky, as we move to qt5
<freemangordon>
*moved
<flok>
ok
<freemangordon>
you don;t really need madde as you simply ssh to device and do whatever you want to
<freemangordon>
for example - I compiled mesa several times on d4 ;)
<freemangordon>
takes time, but still
<flok>
I worked with QTcreator at work a few years ago, nice environment
<freemangordon>
I still prefer it over any other IDE
<freemangordon>
my usual workflow is - ssh mount from my pc to virtualbox VM
<freemangordon>
qtcreator to remotely edit the files
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: I didn't try
<freemangordon>
and then build and test in vm
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: maybe make sure that ke-recv doesn't mess with you
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: well, neither host nor peripheral modes work
<Wizzup>
sry, don't know
<freemangordon>
I can stop ke-recv ofc
<freemangordon>
ok
<Wizzup>
ke-recv should help with the modes
<Wizzup>
maybe some config is missing
<freemangordon>
I enabled everything I found
<freemangordon>
and actually lsusb listst 2 hubs
<freemangordon>
*lists
<Wizzup>
is the configfs for usb also on?
<freemangordon>
yes
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<buZz>
Wizzup: flok was looking for the cheapest device to run leste on :P
<xmn>
I mean you have limited choices here no? n900, moto, Pinephone, ....what else?
<n900>
bah @ moto & pinephone!
* n900
hides
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<xmn>
haha
<xmn>
I'm been using my PP for about 2 weeks now as my daily. Since my n900 keyboard keep dropping keys caps :(. It been okay, better then before. But not yet a good replace for my trusted n900.
<sicelo>
flok: mentioning madde makes me think you worked on n900/maemo before?
<flok>
sicelo: never. I'm trying to get into development for the platform and I was skimming the wiki for that. there I saw that madde mentioned a few times.
<freemangordon>
flok: do you know what madde stands for?
<flok>
no, not yet :)
<freemangordon>
MAD DEveloper :)
<xmn>
lol
<freemangordon>
yeah, nokians used to have sense of humor
<sicelo>
;-)
<Wizzup>
buZz: bionic or d4
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<freemangordon>
Wizzup: hmm, I cannot enable audio either
<freemangordon>
all modules are loaded but there is no alsa device
<freemangordon>
:(
<freemangordon>
oh, wait
<freemangordon>
it is here :)
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<poorboi>
Hi. since you guys likely to have n900s around, how's it's battery life in aftermarke t battries?.
<sicelo>
depends on the aftermarket battery itself. and of course, with Maemo Leste and linux mainline, there's no good power management for N900 yet
<sicelo>
polarcell has generally made the best N900 batteries
<poorboi>
what about CSSU?
<sicelo>
that has quite good power management, yes. polarcells are highly recommended, although i'm not sure if they still make new ones
<poorboi>
how long they would last in normal daily usage?
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<freemangordon>
and of course glamor refuses to play videos :(
<sicelo>
poorboi: depends on your usage ... but at idle, N900 running Maemo Fremantle with gprs connected draws about 4mA
<sicelo>
with active use throughout the day, it was possible to get a complete day ... i think in 2022 you might get more :-p
<sicelo>
because you might use it a bit less (since almost all browsing doesn't work anymore)
<sicelo>
poorboi: you recently obtained N900?
<poorboi>
no, but found one place which sells it with the same price of a 1280
<poorboi>
i already have a smart phone, with a poor battery. i wonder if should give up on neat software and take 1280 with good? (how much?) battery or get the n900.
<sicelo>
i see. well, nowadays it might make better sense to get something else besides N900, e.g. Motorola Droid 4 or some other phone supported by the mainline kernel
<sicelo>
but ... it all depends on what really makes sense to you for *your* needs and use-cases
<sicelo>
if decision is 1280 vs. N900 ... i'd always pick N900 :-p
<sicelo>
but the 1280 probably needs to charge only once a month, heh
<poorboi>
sicelo: 4mA / m?
<sicelo>
at around 3.8v, the current draw is 4mA ... i.e. about 15mW. what's /m?
<poorboi>
minute :)
<poorboi>
i barely know any electrics.
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<xmn>
Crazy how well the n900 battery lasted when compared to the PP. And the Polarcell is a great supplier. I'm running them right now. All other don't hold charge after a short time cycling through charges.