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<freemangordon> Wizzup: when you have some spare time, could you please open addressbook and compare scrolling 'choppiness' with and without (ctrl-shift-n) compositing
<freemangordon> I see no difference here, but maybe it is just me
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<freemangordon> ugh, pixmaps are created/destroyed on evry scroll frame
<freemangordon> no wonder it is slow
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<freemangordon> ok, that's crazy, somebody is doing crazy things here, unfortunately mapping pixmap into PRV memory can take up to 15ms depending on the size
<rafael2k> morning
<freemangordon> hi!
<rafael2k> hi there, libcamera crew unbroke compilation with gcc 8.3... this is good news for us
<rafael2k> I'm creating new test packages for arm64
<freemangordon> :)
<freemangordon> oh, sometimes it takes 20 ms to map a BO
<rafael2k> freemangordon: which device are you working on?
<freemangordon> d4
<rafael2k> right
<freemangordon> but I guess it is the same on PP
<freemangordon> as I am debugging performance issues in xorg driver
<rafael2k> indeed, performance is not stellar... but at least does not crash anymore.
<freemangordon> it turns out thaty someone constantly creates/destroys fullscreen pixmaps when scrolling in addressbook, for example
<freemangordon> well, almost fillscreen
<rafael2k> how to open the addressbook? just to be sure I'm in the right place
<rafael2k> today I broght the pp to the work
<freemangordon> ummm. click on contacts
<freemangordon> keep in mind on PP it is even worse, because of the SW rotation
<freemangordon> on d4 it scrolls with 20-30 fps
<freemangordon> on PP i guess it is with 15
<rafael2k> I have no contacts
<rafael2k> :P
<rafael2k> I need to fill there first
<freemangordon> well, yeah
<rafael2k> lemme finish compile libcamera first
<freemangordon> you can import vcf files
<rafael2k> good idea
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<norayr> rafael2k: i know what is the issue with your pine keyboard.
<norayr> i was not able to charge mine without the pin64 charger.
<norayr> you need something that gives 5.4V to charge it.
<rafael2k> norayr: really? oh my...
<rafael2k> can you confirm which one in the website?
<norayr> rafael2k: the pine charger makes it really clear. it has 5 points of charge. the leftmost usb is of 5.3V, others of 5.2V, and it doesn't take charge if connected to the port with 5.2V.
<norayr> rafael2k: https://www.pine64.org/pinepowerdesktop/ this one.
<norayr> but i believe if you find something which may give you 5.3V it'll start charging.
<norayr> (and i want you to use it, because currently the support for pine keyboard in maemo is not great. it works much better in pmos)
<rafael2k> Did you buy this charger?
<Wizzup> freemangordon: still need me to check?
<rafael2k> I can buy it... it seems nice indeed
<rafael2k> norayr: why the support of the pp kbd is not great?
<rafael2k> did you try mobian? we just the same patches they use.
<rafael2k> *we use
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<norayr> no, didn't try mobian for long time. let's say hyphen character is not possible to print from the keyboard. that's right alt with 7 but these shortcuts don't work.
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<Guest224> something about PP keyboard on maemo forum: https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=101337&page=3
<rafael2k> norayr: are the keycodes being generated correctly?
<rafael2k> try with xev
<Guest224> It would be nice that "pine"-button do same that Sym(blue arrow+ctrl) in N900.
<norayr> rafael2k: i don't know what to compare to. under phosh xev won't work.
<norayr> i don't remember what was the sym button in n900.
<Guest224> sym button gives symbol-menu on screen.
<Guest224> on scandic-layout it was usefull to get characters that didnt found on keyboard.
<Guest224> or all layouts.
<Guest224> or pine-button can be just blue arrow-button and with ctrl it work like with N900.
<Guest224> in Meamo 5.
<rafael2k> norayr: just test in Mobian if the key combinations you mention does work
<Guest224> Good maemo propaganda: https://leste.maemo.org/Propaganda , but should Leste be more ready for average user, before share..so they don't get disappointed and never test again?
<rafael2k> norayr: not asking to compare, just run in Maemo and check if the keycodes are correct
<rafael2k> really cool the propaganda!
<rafael2k> I like all, especiallu the "Niet" one, and also the other with Chico Buarque as the Maemo user
<rafael2k> love him
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<buZz> hmm, how -should- i make those debian/changelog files? it keeps complaining about one i handtyped
<buZz> :P
<Wizzup> copy paste another one, edit it
<Wizzup> date -R for the date
<buZz> Guest224: the Propaganda is mostly just to accompany Wizzup on openfest.org next weekend
<buZz> Wizzup: there is no other one
<Wizzup> buZz: any other project
<buZz> oh right, ok
<buZz> i still need a .desktop file i guess
<buZz> this is the changelog error ;
<buZz> dpkg-genbuildinfo: warning: debian/changelog(l4): found end of file where expected more change data or trailer
<buZz> eh > W: devilutionx: empty-binary-package
<buZz> meh :(
<rafael2k> be aware of tabs vs spaces... at least in rules, this is critical
<buZz> rafael2k: if you have any useful tips about Packaging, i want to expand https://leste.maemo.org/Packaging a bit
<Wizzup> buZz: fwiw I -always- copy fomr some other pkg and just adjust words/date
<buZz> alright
<buZz> meh, seems it did build but somehow lost the binaries , lol
<buZz> guess i'll look later, today is otherjobday , -likely- i'll be sitting in a car doing not much for ~6-8 hours today so maybe i'll continue remote ;)
<buZz> *throws usb powerbanks and a 12V usbadapter in bag*
<buZz> Wizzup: maybe that ebay vendor got lost in their warehouse :P
<rafael2k> buZz: I think Debian docs are pretty enough tbh
<rafael2k> but the more docs, the better, always
<rafael2k> : )
<Wizzup> buZz: give it another day, we're not in a rush
<buZz> rafael2k: yeah if you know any good ones? i can add em if you want
<buZz> Wizzup: yes we arrrre :P lol
<buZz> :P
<Wizzup> everything I ordered from ebay is already waiting for me at the office
<Wizzup> it's like 1 day delivery or so
<buZz> nice, all the phones?
<Wizzup> the few I ordered yes
<Wizzup> atrix and some
<buZz> cool :)
<rafael2k> I'm still without the ringing sound since the maemo-ringtones is wrong (or profile-data is wrong)
<buZz> rafael2k: aw :( even if you just set it by hand directly?
<rafael2k> buZz: what do you mean "by hand" here?
<buZz> > sphone -c options
<Wizzup> buZz: no, he's saying the default does not work
<rafael2k> I just want the distro fixed, of course I can make it work in different ways...
<buZz> ah hmhm
<rafael2k> renaming the .aac, changing in the config...
<Wizzup> iirc someone submitted a pr for a config change no?
<Wizzup> maybe my memory doesn't serve me well
<rafael2k> if someone send a PR, I'm not aware
<Wizzup> ok
<rafael2k> *sent
* Wizzup bbiab, packing :)
* buZz waves at Wizzup
<rafael2k> if nobody does it, I'll just explode the maemo-ringtones package and edit it by hand, and re-pack it with ar
<buZz> rafael2k: would be cool, i still want to try 'resetup from new image' so i can hit those default configs again some day soonish
<Wizzup> rafael2k: I think the proper thing is to fix profilex
<buZz> (and mirrored it)
<rafael2k> buZz: I plan to do the same
<buZz> yeah its not uncommon for 'apt update' from a old install to behave somewhat different from a 'fresh' install
<buZz> oh right, i still want a second simcard, maybe i should order it already so i can bring up my second d4 as 'permanent' 3rd internetconnection
<rafael2k> buZz: tks! lets pack all the N900 in that package and be happy! I think I have it here anyway, but will download again just in case
<buZz> :D
<buZz> rafael2k: you're welcome to it, space.nurdspace isnt superfast but our internet is free/sponsored
<rafael2k> sim card is good, sms alert is working, my phone just made some noise now
<buZz> so no issues in hogging the line :)
<rafael2k> cool, will do it!
<buZz> rafael2k: i think many of the /N900 stuff there is already in (that? a different?) package
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<buZz> one of the 'issues' i ran into was that all the ringtones included lacked metadata inside the .aac , so (non-default) selection looks like ; http://space.nurdspace.nl/~buzz/maemo/2022-08-31-010412_960x540_scrot.png
<buZz> minor i guess, its not the normal method people would select a ringtone (by browsing to the files)
<rafael2k> I'll check this
<rafael2k> are you sure the metadata was embedded in the file?
<buZz> tiny quality of life fixes ftw :P
<buZz> no, i am not sure
<buZz> hmmm > Raw ADTS AAC files have no native tagging format. Some applications can force ID3 tags on them with unpredictable results/readability.
<buZz> yeah not sure what nokia did/does
<rafael2k> indeed... may be an out-of-band metadata file would be ok too
<rafael2k> but I agree having the metadata is cool
<Guest224> now new news after april 2022 at https://maemo-leste.github.io/ ..should there be at least news that you have worked hard for basic phone thinks to get work.
<Guest224> now = no
<Wizzup> it's being worked on
<buZz> Wizzup: do you need some material collected by 'us' as suggested topics for a new news post?
<Guest224> there don't have to be all news at once, you can leave something to next month :)
<buZz> Guest224: yeah we could use a more trickled newsflow
<buZz> maybe we should start some 'leste news' channel and do weekly state-of-the-maemo reports :P
<buZz> hehe
<Guest224> just any news would be good that https://maemo-leste.github.io/ show that project is alive...half year is long time these days.
<Wizzup> buZz: you can send me a list
<Wizzup> I do have a bunch
<Wizzup> buZz: I think we're probably not doing enough for weekly reports, but maybe
<buZz> Guest224: we're aware :P
<Wizzup> Guest224: it will happen this week
<Wizzup> brb again
<buZz> Wizzup: even just a irc summary can be cool, we do discuss a lot here
<buZz> or maybe a summary of commits to stuff
<buZz> i'll think about it a bit
<buZz> hmm, default q/calendar 'alarm' is just a single beep and vibration motor once
<buZz> thats not very attention grabbing :P
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<Wizzup> buZz: not for me, it's a proper alarm
<Wizzup> if you put the phone upside down during the alarm it will suspend the alarm
<buZz> oo, that might have happened then
<buZz> is it smart enough for 'pocket survival' then?
<buZz> i mean, if phone is in your bag/pocket, how will it prevent auto-suspending
<Wizzup> try it :)
<buZz> willdo ;)
<buZz> hmmm, only just noticed, the video of droid4 is kinda 'blue' , wonder if i can use a calibration tool to make a better color profile for droid4
<buZz> (and maybe the others too)
<buZz> i'll go ask if i can borrow that device soonish (datacolor spyder4 , iirc)
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<buZz> afk, bbl
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<buZz> i keep wanting to do /op * in here
<buZz> lol
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<freemangordon> uvos: I wonder shall I dig deeper to try to find who creates/destroys pixmap on every frame or just implement some pixmap/bo cache and call it a day
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<tmlind> sicelo: heh that gpu stuff looks amazing :)
<tmlind> freemangordon: i'll take a look if that one patch is needed when rebasing patches to v6.0, maybe it's just some leftover from the ddk-1.9 stuff
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<freemangordon> tmlind: ok, thanks
<freemangordon> tmlind: though, I think it is more of a question if WC memory is cache synced or not
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<norayr> buzz, i didn't understand, what do you want to calibrate. are you able to take photos with droid4 under linux?
<norayr> Wizzup, will we have new supported devices?
<norayr> (i mean did you get any new omap devices you intent to start supporting?)
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<buZz> norayr: the color of the screen
<buZz> droid4 camera afaik has no driver yet?
<buZz> freemangordon: did oy see? d4 was faster in make -j1 than pp
<norayr> buzz: wow wow wow
<norayr> did MartijnBraam[m] see it?
<MartijnBraam[m]> did I see what?
<norayr> btw MartijnBraam[m], i am making photos with megapixels again, and i use my LUTs for emulating film, so i use ~/.config/megapixels/postprocess.sh and i get results like this: https://xn--49ap3c.xn--y9a3aq/media/uploads/2022/10/07/7c39f295-0c0c-418b-a9f8-96497ee94d6f.jpg
<norayr> so i remember you wanted to remove that possibility, but i really need to have custom postprocess.sh
<norayr> MartijnBraam[m]: buZz said that droid4 was able to compile faster than pp.
<MartijnBraam[m]> oh I'm definetly not removing that capability
<MartijnBraam[m]> that's why I implemented a whole postprocessor switching thing
<Wizzup> norayr: yes we plan to support more devices, we have razr and atrix, but I first want droid 3 and xyboards to work ok
<norayr> oh good, i misunderstood something you said probably.
<MartijnBraam[m]> norayr: I thought it was between the n900 and the pp :P
<norayr> yay yay yay, droid3, it looks amazing, waiting impatiently to test newer builds.
<Wizzup> norayr: no fixes were made yet
<Wizzup> don't get too excited
<norayr> theoretically pp must be faster, but i don't understand why droid4 overperformes it.
<MartijnBraam[m]> if you upgrade a pmos system with megapixels and postprocess.sh to the new release it will default to the old postprocess.sh script, it will show postprocess.sh and postprocessd in the settings window
<MartijnBraam[m]> and you can add multiple custom postprocessors to switch between by adding files in the right directories
<norayr> good.
<MartijnBraam[m]> well if you're comparing single core, the droid 4 is cortex-a9 1.2Ghz and the pp is cortex-a53 1.15Ghz, the memory bandwidth and storage bandwidth on the pp suck so I can see why it wins
<norayr> i also do film photography, a lot. so when i do digital, i then use my luts. and when using megapixels, i don't need to separately convert out of camera jpegs to my jpegs, i just get my jpegs out of camera.
<MartijnBraam[m]> I kinda want to add lut support to the postprocessd flow, have not looked into it yet
<MartijnBraam[m]> applying luts is annoying with libraries
<norayr> i think i can find, i did single core comparison by using fibbonaci calculations.
<norayr> minute.
<norayr> i have those published
<norayr> https://ծմակուտ.հայ/content/4cf0e201-8e9f-4564-8fc7-1d67eef94db3/
<norayr> oh pp outperforms droid4 on fibonacci test here.
<norayr> and xperia xa2 (in 32 bit mode) just a little bit faster than both.
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<uvos> cortex a53 should have a bit better ipc
<norayr> what's wrong with its ipc?
<uvos> nothing
<uvos> its ipc should be better than the a9
<norayr> ah! understand.
<uvos> but the difference in single core performance between the a53 and the a9 is maybe not that massive.
<uvos> i thought the pp was clocked higher than that
<uvos> i gues not
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