<Wizzup>
freemangordon: looks like yappari can also use osso-abook
<Wizzup>
really seems like a good starting point to me
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<sicelo>
yes it does (@osso-abook) - was required since that's how WA works
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<Wizzup>
yeah I see it
<Wizzup>
I never really got to use yappari much, got banned after like 2 days
<sicelo>
i was a heavy user. when the bans intensified, i was 'recycling' up to 3 numbers per day :-p
<Wizzup>
heh
<Wizzup>
so I am thinking we take a lot of yappari's UI, but start with removing whatsapp-specific stuff (most) and add some basic abstraction for protocols
<Wizzup>
and then add basic telepathy / rtcom for xmpp or sms
<bencoh>
oh
<bencoh>
interesting
<bencoh>
I thought you'd go the path (take empathy / whatever and add missing features)
<Wizzup>
empathy is not qt
<Wizzup>
and it's also much further from what we want
<Wizzup>
I think
<Wizzup>
it's also worth looking into, for sure
<Wizzup>
the wiki really needs some love / organising
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<Wizzup>
bencoh: got more thoughts on the matter?
<Wizzup>
it seems easier to me to hook up tp stuff to some cut down version of yappari
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<Wizzup>
uvos: what are your ideas regarding sphone and sms?
<bencoh>
Wizzup: not really, everytime I thought about that I wondered how we would add media support to empathy or rtcom
<bencoh>
and pidgin never really seemed to do the work either
<Wizzup>
bencoh: I think telepathy supports tubes that are this, aren't they?
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<Wizzup>
still reading up on the terminology
<Wizzup>
or they are just another file transfer protocol perhaps
<bencoh>
data transfer yeah
<bencoh>
considering what I just read, it might be a start, though
<Wizzup>
I am not expecting to be able to do anything we want to do it
<Wizzup>
but I expect that we'll just expand it to fit our needs if others haven't yet
<Wizzup>
be that for mms or signal audio messages or whatever
<Wizzup>
uvos: wondering if it makes sense to make the sms stuff a separate application for sphone, or not, because I'm planning to work on tp support for sphone, but I won't work on the sms/text side of it, since we will want that to be a separate thing I think
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<Wizzup>
uvos: does your bionic still boot on latest -devel
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<freemangordon>
why sms should be separate from conversations?
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: not separate from conversations
<Wizzup>
separate from sphone
<freemangordon>
ah, ok :)
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: comments on my comments wrt yappari as base?
<Wizzup>
thoughts on comments*
<freemangordon>
never used yappari so no idea how close it is as UX
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: why did glib failed though?
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: what do you mean there?
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: no, the newpid stuff baffles me, but the others went through I think
<freemangordon>
but, they are not in the repos
<Wizzup>
oh the -repos jobs failed
<freemangordon>
in the VM glib upgraded with the one from debian
<freemangordon>
mhm
<Wizzup>
Cannot put file 'libglib2.0-udeb_2.58.3-2+deb10u3+leste1+2m7_amd64.udeb' of 'glib2.0_2.58.3-2+deb10u3+leste1+2m7_amd64.changes' into component 'main',
<Wizzup>
as it is not listed in UDebComponents of 'beowulf-devel'!
<Wizzup>
parazyd: ^?
<parazyd>
Delete everything udeb from glib/debian/
<parazyd>
We don't build udebs as we don't have debian-installer
<freemangordon>
sec
<freemangordon>
done, lets see
<freemangordon>
I've spinned a new build too
<Wizzup>
won't fix the newpid thing I bet
<freemangordon>
whatever it is
<freemangordon>
we have a test failure?
<Wizzup>
source linux namespace thing
<Wizzup>
I don't think it's the test that fails
<Wizzup>
it's just using the command that fails
<Wizzup>
didn't look too hard though
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<sicelo>
on my droid 4, when i received an incoming call with sphone, i could hear the other party, but they couldn't hear me. just reporting. maybe next time i'll have time to investigate further.
<Wizzup>
I think I have the same problem
<bencoh>
audio routing issue?
<sicelo>
yes
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<Wizzup>
But just running the script, or really, using a ring connection seems not to interfere with sphone, so that's good news
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<freemangordon>
uh, just hit abook contact merger code :)
<freemangordon>
will take a while
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: hehe, no way we can stub that out for now?
<freemangordon>
well, we can, but what's the point?
<freemangordon>
I have already put g_assert(0) on couple of places
<Wizzup>
I think in ~2 weeks I will start on telepathy chat ui, and eventually that could use osso-abook, but it might not care so much about contact merging at the start
<Wizzup>
but there's not really a rush
<freemangordon>
I guess by that time I'll have that ready
<Wizzup>
:)
<Wizzup>
even better
<freemangordon>
contact merger is about 3000 LOC, so shouldn;t take more than that
<freemangordon>
more that 2 weeks that is
<Wizzup>
ok
<freemangordon>
the good think is that I think i am approaching finishing of that
<Wizzup>
I don't know how much is left before e.g. modest can link against it
<freemangordon>
I already did osso_abook_temporary_contact_dialog_new code, but in turn it needs contact merger :)
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: ah, I see
<Wizzup>
cool
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<freemangordon>
the other missing thing is OssoABookSelfContact
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<freemangordon>
but that should be easy
<Wizzup>
ok
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<Wizzup>
I'm looking a bit into telepathy but trying to stop myself from actually doing something with yappari still because I need to do the news post and audio first :-)
<freemangordon>
and glib :p
<Wizzup>
I was kind of counting that not being my problem but yeah :P
<freemangordon>
ok, lets pester parazyd then I am fine either way :p
<freemangordon>
or, give me a hint where to look and I can look at it
<Wizzup>
I am not sure. Could try to build it on the pinephone and probably see it not fail there
<Wizzup>
maybe we need a new kernel for arm64, or otherwise figure out wth newpid does that makes things fail
<freemangordon>
what i snewpid, man newpid on my ubuntu says nothing
<Wizzup>
it's related to namespaces and I think it makes a new pid namespace
<freemangordon>
the same on leste
<freemangordon>
No manual entry for newpid
<Wizzup>
it's also installable as a package
<freemangordon>
hmm, ok
<Wizzup>
NEWPID(1) NEWPID(1)
<Wizzup>
NAME newpid - launch a command in a new PID namespace
<Wizzup>
so it's possible that perhaps our arm64 kernel does not support separate pid namespaces
<Wizzup>
I'd have to ook
<freemangordon>
but why it fails for glib only?
<Wizzup>
nobody else makes use of it
<Wizzup>
probably
<Wizzup>
hm we do have CONFIG_PID_NS=y
<freemangordon>
could you login to that machine and try to newpid something?