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<snoriman> when I want to use libavformat only to demux but also want to get meta info like the video width/height do I need to also allocate a avcodec context? (I think I must do that, but if it's not necessary I don't want to waste resources)
<JEEB> avformat only has avcodec parameters, which is not an avctx
<snoriman> Ok thanks, then I'll instantiate a codec context too
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<ppw> hi JEEB. does running ffprobe -show_entries stream_tags:format_tags on a video cover all the metadata tags?
<JEEB> snoriman: I meant you have a codecpar provided for the container info :P
<JEEB> so if that has enough information, then you don't have to instantiate codec context
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<snoriman> ah I see, thanks. Then I indeed, don't need to create the codec context
<JEEB> for some formats there might not be that info so in those cases you either consider them unsupported or in that case attempt to decode until you get the first decoded frame :)
<snoriman> for this use case I'm only handling mp4
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<snoriman> ah.. and h264, which makes me wonder: does the format context parses the video-configuration box? (AVCC if I'm correct)
<JEEB> yea it parses the basic things from it, it doesn't parse the decoder init bytes
<snoriman> Ok awesome, thansk!
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<snoriman> JEEB: if I want access the SPS/PPS, do I need to use the AVCodecContext.extradata? or can I access this from a AVFormatContext too?
<snoriman> oh sorry, it seems the AVCodecParameters of the AVStream holds those too
<snoriman> Is the AVStream.codecpar.extradata is the raw AVCDecoderConfigurationRecord? I can parse this myself, but is there a better way to get the sps/pps?
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<kmikita> I have issue with native mpeg4 encoder when using b-frames "-c: mpeg4 -bf 1". On hardware dvd-player playback picture has two blinking horizontal lines of blocks at 1/3 and 2/3 screen. Can I fix compatibility by ffmpeg flags?
<kmikita> with libxvid no problems
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<Kadigan> Hey all. I'm having a really bad Google day. How the hell do I tell ffmpeg to output a JPEG file, without the file having a JPEG extension?
<Kadigan> Everybody says "just output it to blah.jpg and it'll know", but that's the thing - I'm using tmp files, so all I have is a nsf7eogeiihifes8hfi
<Kadigan> I thought -f jpg or something might work, but I was obviously wrong.
<JEEB> see `ffmpeg -muxers |grep jpeg`
<Kadigan> Okay... which one does it use when saving a .jpg file? :D
<JEEB> hint: it's the mjpeg one since FFmpeg supports jpeg due to motion jpeg (which is just a bunch of jpegs one after another)
<Kadigan> Ah, so the one I instantly eliminated (since I know it's a VIDEO format... heh), is the one to use.
<JEEB> "jpg" ends up at the meta-format image2 :P
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<JEEB> these can be checked with `ffmpeg -h muxer=MUXER_NAME`
<JEEB> that lists the extensions registered for that specific muxer
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<wodim> can I use ffprobe to tell whether an input file is a video or an image? I am using `ffprobe -v quiet -show_format -show_streams -print_format json` and I see nothing in the output that indicates what I need
<JEEB> there is no such differentiation within FFmpeg. for example JPEG and PNG readers can just take on a bunch of piped one after another images of that format
<JEEB> the closest to that is the disposition utilized for stuff like album art
<wodim> any other alternatives? maybe libmagic?
<JEEB> do you actually care whether it is a single image, or just that it is for example (at least) one PNG or JPEG file?
<wodim> I am using ffprobe to obtain the dimensions and duration of a file, but ffmpeg will happily generate those for a still image or a gif. I need to be able to tell whether what I passed to ffmpeg is an actual video or not
<wodim> ffprobe*
<ppw> exiftool
<JEEB> wodim: would in your case `cat 1.jpg 2.jpg > 3.jpg` be a true or falsie?
<JEEB> since in that case it is indeed JPEG, just two of them one after another and FFmpeg will happily read both. but format-wise it is the same as single one
<wodim> concatenating two jpeg files does not a video make
<JEEB> alright, so you just care about the format
<JEEB> cool
<JEEB> then you can just look for the format
<JEEB> and with something like image2(pipe) getting picked, you look at the codec
<wodim> that would require a whitelist/blacklist approach
<wodim> which I don't like
<wodim> because you can't catch 'em all
<JEEB> yup, you would have like three for jpeg, two for png or so
<JEEB> since for FFmpeg all those things are just Yet Another Media Input
<wodim> and when someone passes a gif I need to update the program
<wodim> and then a webp, and then...
<JEEB> it doesn't differentiate whether technically it is an image format originally or not, esp. since people utilized concatenated JPEG for "video" over HTTP
<JEEB> which is why the JPEG format is called "mjpeg" in FFmpeg
<JEEB> "motion jpeg"
<JEEB> which is just a.jpg and b.jpg put one after another
<wodim> that does not seem relevant in a practical sense
<JEEB> I'm just basically explaining why FFmpeg doesn't differentiate between "image" or "video", since everything can be in theory a video input for it
<wodim> I understand, thank you
<JEEB> and since the readers are capable of reaidng multiple things after another, if you pass it concatenated a.jpg and b.jpg, you will indeed get two frames
<JEEB> (at the default 25fps )
<JEEB> np
<JEEB> this has caused various "fun" things in API clients
<wodim> I will use libmagic then
<JEEB> such as mpv
<wodim> yes, it's indeed giving me trouble, which is why I want to fix it
<JEEB> wodim: would that allow you to get a generic type?
<JEEB> or wouldn't that also end up as a format matching thing
<wodim> it doesn't try to be as clever
<wodim> if the mimetype begins with "video/" and ffprobe can parse it, it's extremely likely to be a valid video
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<BtbN> well, is a singular jpeg file not a valid video, in some sense?
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<Kadigan> It does. I just thought that MJPEG was in some way different from regular JPEG.
<Kadigan> Thank you for the help, it all works now. I now have a small script to convert a video + make a still frame and compress it, to put alongside.
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<Unit640> Kadigan: Not sure if you found a way to do it, but I remember also being in that situation and I believe I just auto-renamed the temp files temporarily into .jpg.
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<duskmoss> I'm curious what distros y'all find ffmpeg is packaged best+most feature complete in?
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<Unit640> duskmoss: How could it possibly vary?
<duskmoss> the build configs for ffmpeg are pretty different between distros
<furq> they're usually pretty similar
<furq> there's just a few distros that are extremely paranoid about shipping anything patented
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<duskmoss> my experiences that hasn't been the case for hardware transcoding, but maybe I've just hit all the weird ones
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<Kadigan> Unit640: I just went with `-f mjpeg` and it did the trick.
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<snoriman> I'm experimenting with CUDA/GL interop and got a proof of concept working. I'm using AVFormatContext to demux a mp4 file and passig the packets into my CUVID implementation (proof-of-concept that I created to experiment with interop). I'm only running into an issue where CUVID renders "garbage" until it receives the second IDR. The first IDR is received in from the first call to `av_read_frame()`
<snoriman> though, the data starts with a SEI. Does someone has an idea why CUVID can't handle this?
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<snoriman> Ok, so it seems that the `CUvideoparser` indeed has issues to parse the first packet which contains multiple nals. Is there a way use AVFormatContext to demux an mp4 with h264 and give me each nal instead?
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<Lynne> probably it expects annex-b, but you only get annex-b in .ts/rtp streams
<Lynne> use the h264_mp4toannexb bsf to convert it
<Lynne> you'll need to use the bsf api from libavcodec, lavf can't do it automatically
<Lynne> why are you NIHing your own decoder too, though?
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