11:44 <uwumeowmeownyaa> When will the CRUX GNU/Linux distribution also referred to as just "CRUX" publish its Code of Conduct?

11:48 <SiFuh_> There is no CRUX GNU/Linux so nothing will be published about it.

12:21 <SiFuh_> farkuhar: Can you write a code of conduct and make sure the first one says that CRUX will be referred only as CRUX and nothing else?

12:23 <farkuhar> SiFuh_: CRUX doesn't need a CoC. We already have a Pkgfile(5) which lays out the guidelines for port creators. Alas, contrib/rtkit seems to deviate from those guidelines by listing among its dependencies a core port (vim) that is only needed at build-time (https://github.com/heftig/rtkit/blob/master/meson.build#L88) not at runtime.

12:26 <SiFuh_> farkuhar: But uwumeowmeownyaa want's a code of conduct

12:33 <farkuhar> It's actually only the xxd binary that contrib/rtkit needs during build-time, not the entire vim suite. When I last paid attention to the vim repo, it looked like xxd.c was stable and not getting updated at the same rate as the rest of vim. But a quick glance reveals that xxd.c has received nine commits so far this year.

12:34 <SiFuh_> VIM should't be in core

12:34 <SiFuh_> VI can be but not VIM.

12:35 <SiFuh_> -r-xr-xr-x 3 root bin 356K Sep 30 22:33 /usr/bin/vi

12:35 <SiFuh_> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root bin 3.7M Oct 9 23:19 /usr/local/bin/vim

12:36 <SiFuh_> https://github.com/openbsd/src/tree/master/usr.bin/vi

12:36 <farkuhar> SiFuh_: just be thankful that beerman hasn't replaced the core port with neovim.

12:36 <SiFuh_> OpenBSD's vi is quite useable compared to some of the Linux vi software.

12:36 <SiFuh_> farkuhar: I'd fly to Germany and take him out.

12:39 <SiFuh_> Wall-Climbing Robot Joins China-Singapore Joint Army Drill

12:40 <uwumeowmeownyaa> Instead of VIM, GNU Emacs should be in core. Because it can be used for many purposes, from browsing the Internet, to reading and writing electronic mails.

12:41 <uwumeowmeownyaa> GNU Emacs can also replace a window manager with the so-called "EXWM".

12:44 <SiFuh_> Emacs should NEVER be in core

12:45 <SiFuh_> I use Emacs, and I will never agree it to being in core.

12:46 <SiFuh_> Core needs to be bare minimum with nothing except what is needed to get your system up and running from a super minimal base. Nothing else should be added. For example. OpenDoas and Sudo should never be in core. There is already a command 'su' but for some dumb reason someone put sudo into core.

13:04 <uwumeowmeownyaa> I hate sudo so much it's unreal.

13:04 <uwumeowmeownyaa> Also I agree with you on the subject.

15:49 <ukky> Emacs might be part of the core, as it has potential to replace init (PID 1) process. Just kidding.

15:51 <SiFuh_> ukky: https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/real_programmers.png

15:55 <ukky> SiFuh_: nice, I haven't seen this before

15:56 <SiFuh_> Damn! I posted it a few times ukky

15:56 <ukky> SiFuh_: I don't check every link posted here

15:59 <SiFuh_> ukky: I did data retrieval 2 days ago. The guy said only 70% was recovered. I said "You don't organize anything. The folders you are looking for is under Users/Admin-<Some stupid lettering>/Desktop/ He then replied "You recovered everything! How much should I pay you?" I said "50 for first hour, 100 for every hour after. So 5 hours makes it 450 or you can buy me a carton of beer (160 MYR)".

16:02 <SiFuh_> is/are

16:08 <ukky> I bet there were lots of files and links in that */Desktop/ directory

17:08 <SiFuh_> ukky: I don't know. I just no one thing. If you do data retrieval. _Don't click on anything, don't look at anything, because you may regret it_... just let it happen and tell them it is done.

17:10 <SiFuh_> ukky: I made the mistake twice of verifying images and once you see it, you can never unsee it.

17:11 <SiFuh_> So I have a strictly no click, no view policy.

18:25 <ukky> SiFuh_: You have seen it all. I wonder what kind of image would make you wish to unsee it.

18:25 <SiFuh_> ukky: I can tell you if you are serious to know

18:28 <SiFuh_> Heh, the images are popping back into my head. Holy shit.

18:28 <ukky> Not serious enough.

18:29 <SiFuh_> ukky: Good, because it is not something that any normal human being would even fathom.

18:30 <SiFuh_> Glad I didn't get PTSD from it that is for sure.

18:30 <ukky> Definitely something more scary than anatomy room in med schools then

18:31 <SiFuh_> Yes much worse

18:32 <SiFuh_> Never understood why the most beautiful things get trumped in your memory by the most horrific things you see.

18:33 <ukky> Because those horrific images leave deeper scars in your memory (maybe)

18:34 <SiFuh_> I remember seeing images of when the Indonesian ABRI were slaughtering all the Chinese and some of the stuff was sickening. My friend cried when he saw this. What I saw during the data retrieval was way more worse than that.

18:35 <SiFuh_> ukky: Worse still, I was asked to repair that computer a second time. I felt so disgusted just touching the keyboard.

18:36 <ukky> Beer might help in that case to switch to more pleasant memories

18:37 <SiFuh_> No chance

18:37 <ukky> Pack of 6?

18:38 <SiFuh_> I'd need a pallet load and a few bottles of vodka to get alcohol poisoning

18:41 <SiFuh_> ukky: Hope the guy chooses 450. Hope he is muslim and doesn't want to buy me a carton of beer. :-P But the carton will be good. I plan to go camping again this weekend and need a carton.