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<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: Somehow, I really enjoyed this documentary, and all I did was looking up what "scavengers" means: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ver3Cg_tMEE
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<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I emailed a company that is to repair my laptop. I asked them a question as to why I have two different Terms and Agreements. They emailed me back completely ignoring my questions and told me they can't open the OpenPGP attachment. I said it is for encrypted emails. Just ignore it. Then they emailed me back saying they still can't open it.
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<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: 1:09 the look on the face as she pushes out a calf
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: The Savanna Ants are awesome
<SiFuh> The largest part of CRUX MUSL looks like it is linux-firmware
<lavaball> is there a crux musl ow?
<lavaball> n
<SiFuh> lavaball: Unofficially
<SiFuh> emmett1 and I have worked on making it.
<SiFuh> That is the sha256 file
<SiFuh> This is the ISO
<SiFuh> And this is most but not all the build process.
<SiFuh> Actually I am running the final stages now. It won't be done until some time early in the morning I went from Emmett1's rootfs -> On CRUX glib to build the first CRUX musl -> then rebuilt CRUX musl on CRUX musl -> Now I am building the last CRUX musl on the last CRUX musl machine. So I know it is super clean.
<SiFuh> But the ISO above is perfectly fine for using. I haven't found anything wrong with it.
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<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: Are those repair guys boomers? Because I remember having had the same thing when I submitted my CV to Nintendo the other day. I know the developer department is very aware of PGP, because they actually require 3rd party developers to encrypt their Master ROMs with it upon submission, but apparently the HR department has absolutely no idea what the hell PGP is.
<remiliascarlet> I didn't even encrypt attachments, they just spotted a PGP file alongside the PDF file, and instead of just opening the PDF file, they complained about the PGP file, and even sent me a screenshot of their Microsoft Outlook window with both attachments being available. So I had to send again with PGP disabled just for them to stop complaining.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA They sent me a screenshot too
<SiFuh> This is what they sent me
<SiFuh> But there was something more funny
<SiFuh> This was at the top of their second reply. HAHAHA
<remiliascarlet> So Malaysians are huge MS Excel users too?
<SiFuh> At the shop he said maybe you Windows has a problem. I said "Who the hell uses Windows?"
<SiFuh> I said it quite angrily actually
<SiFuh> There is a very big Linux/Unix community here in Malaysia. A large majority of them even know me, have met me, or have heard of me.
<SiFuh> But Windows is still every fucking where
<SiFuh> I was also notorious for insulting the new fucking morons that sell computers because they don't know shit about their hardware or their software. They are just fashion sellers.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: By the way was that a picture of Excel or Google Spreadsheets?
<remiliascarlet> I mean, where in Japan you'd see Excel being used for every fucking thing. From order forms to sign up forms to writing documentation to explaining co-workers a flow of steps... Many would even make a screenshot, paste it in Excel, and send you a .xlsx file with the screenshot in it.
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: I use neither, so I don't know.
<SiFuh> Closest I use to excel is Libreoffice which was forked from Openoffice and Soffice?
<remiliascarlet> Same.
<SiFuh> StarOffice
<remiliascarlet> But I wouldn't use it for literally everything like all these boomers do.
<SiFuh> emacs, mc, vi, bc, terminal and consoles are way faster than the GUIs
<SiFuh> And I absolutely hate the web versions of anything. Just fuck off. Let me use my computer and NOT YOURS
<SiFuh> Unfortunately things like snipboard and dpaste are easier. So I do use some of the web shit.
<remiliascarlet> Yeah, hard to paste in vi or emacs, and assume somebody faraway can magically see it.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Wife has never seen Ghostbusters before.
<SiFuh> I just introduced her to the first one from 1984. She is going to see the 1989 version this week
<farkuhar> SiFuh: I noticed there's no dracut on your CRUX-musl iso. Drivers for the rootfs and disk controller must be compiled into the kernel, or is there another way to generate an initrd from the booted iso?
<SiFuh> I didn't include it because there are other ways you can make an intramfs.
<SiFuh> And besides. If you use my contrib kernel config you won't need one.
<farkuhar> Oh, I thought your contrib kernel config was completely modular, which would require an initramfs.
<SiFuh> Modular doesn't need initramfs if the most important stuff are not.
<SiFuh> But hold on. I want to show you the lines I was looking at and why I didn't add dracut.
<farkuhar> By the way, you were right about it being much easier to recompile the OpenBSD kernel. There isn't a dizzying array of options that you have to navigate through, compared to `make menuconfig`.
<SiFuh> I didn't study it. But I saw they used normal archivers and stuff
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Yeah, vi that freaking file and skim through.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: as a side note. I think dracut was failing with emmett1's version so I didn't bother with it as well.
<SiFuh> My goal was to get you a CRUX core and of course some opt which I'd prefer not to have but was needed
<SiFuh> The dracut failure may have been because of kmod. But he fixed kmod and I never tried dracut after that.
<SiFuh> With my kernel config and the linux-firmware port. You should have enough to make a bootable system without any issues
<farkuhar> Some of the musl patches are so trivial (inserting another #include line), you would have thought the musl designers could have planned it better as a genuine drop-in replacement for glibc.
<SiFuh> I was saying the same thing
<SiFuh> 19:37:33 [SiFuh> You'd think MUSL would have been easily slotted in as a GLIBC replacement.
<remiliascarlet> My experience with glibc vs musl is that as long as the source code is available, I never have issues compiling anything under musl.
<SiFuh> Thank's to void remiliascarlet we have musl-obstack and musl-fts
<remiliascarlet> Problems arise with proprietary software, which are always compiled with glibc (the irony, right Stallman?) for some reason. And same goes for all the Poetteringware. But then again, I care about neither anyway.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Can you imagine how rich we'd be for everytime remiliascarlet mentions Stallman and Poetteringware and Rust and so on we'd get a dollar?
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: You dried the musl yet, or still busy?
<remiliascarlet> Could say the same for you whenever you mention ghostpepper, beer, or Bill Gates.
<SiFuh> Carolina Reapers but beer tops it for sure
<SiFuh> Difference between yours and mine "I care about neither anyway." but do care about my chilli and my beers :-P HAHA
<remiliascarlet> So you care about your Bill Gaytes too?
<SiFuh> Fuck no
<SiFuh> But you know what is funny?
<remiliascarlet> Oh, speaking about Bill Gates, saw this video a few hours ago about how veganism is destroying the earth literally: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=g9WriIc5uhU
<remiliascarlet> The annoying part is that the channel owner drops sponsorship clips twice in 15 minutes.
<SiFuh> You mentioned him 30 times and I mentioned him 66 times. HAHAHA
<SiFuh> Make that 31 times now for you
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Use ublock origins then
<remiliascarlet> Mention him 600 times more to make give him the fitting amount of numers.
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: Sponsorships can't be blocked with uBlock Origin, since they're put literally into the video. You can use Sponsorship Block instead.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: In the bible it explains how to farm land correctly and only the Amish seem to farm it correctly.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I see..
<remiliascarlet> https://sponsor.ajay.app/
<SiFuh> I don't want to click that
<remiliascarlet> It's an essencial extension if you watch the English speaking side of JewTube a lot.
<remiliascarlet> It's the homepage of the extension, not an ad.
<remiliascarlet> Feel safer with a Microsoft Github link instead? https://github.com/ajayyy/SponsorBlock
<SiFuh> She has a point though. Starvation only came to be a thing when human's started agriculture. But the next question to ask is how the fuck would she know?
<remiliascarlet> Historic evidence?
<SiFuh> Yeah since starvation was mostly common around snowy climates
<remiliascarlet> She even gave Iraq as an example for that.
<remiliascarlet> And Iraq is definitely not a snowy climate.
<SiFuh> Iraq was insanely propserous
<remiliascarlet> Yes, that's what she said too.
<SiFuh> If I remember correctly in the bible you grow for 6 years and leave the land untouched on the 7th year. And you had to make sure all your land was calculated to follow the plan. So you divided lands of which would rest while others were not ready for rest.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: In the Book of Enki that land was a forest until the forbidden weapons were used.
<SiFuh> She is full of shit
<SiFuh> She is even saying oxygen is bad and she beleives in global warming
<remiliascarlet> Yeah, I disagree with her on her climatist points.
<SiFuh> She is just blaming everything on agriculture
<remiliascarlet> But still, the fact that agriculture destroys the soil in the long run is not wrong.
<SiFuh> I prefer this one
<SiFuh> It blames agriculture on beer
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: But they were told in the bible how not to destroy the soil.
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: "[ytdl_hook] ERROR: [youtube] VhQhqaXsU0E: Video unavailable. This video is not available"
<SiFuh> So it is the fucking heathens and aethiests that destroyed the soil :-P
<SiFuh> Why would it not be available in Japan?
<remiliascarlet> Even from a common sense perspective, a cow eats the grass, then poops it all out, which gives the soil new nutrients, grass grows back greener, and the whole cycle goes on.
<SiFuh> New nutrients?
<SiFuh> Nutrients it took from the soil?
<remiliascarlet> I think your link is just wrong, I can't even open it in Invidious.
<SiFuh> Wait an hour because yewtu.be is so freaking slown
<remiliascarlet> And Invidious is simply a proxy, so if I take for example a German instance, YouTube will think I'm watching from Germany.
<SiFuh> slow
<remiliascarlet> "Blacklisted regions: CA, JP, US" lolwut?
<remiliascarlet> They blacklist countries on every single video, except it's not always the same countries.
<SiFuh> Just use an online youtube video downloader
<SiFuh> I use that to bypass age restrictions and region blocks
<remiliascarlet> yt-dlp you mean? No, it doesn't.
<SiFuh> I said ONLINE youtube downloader
<remiliascarlet> There's some guy who got copyright trolled by a Japanese company every single day, so he blacklisted Japan for his entire channel completely, so I can only follow him via Yewtu.be. When I try to download with yt-dlp, it'll just tell me the video can't be downloaded.
<remiliascarlet> Oh, so not a terminal program?
<SiFuh> Not a terminal program
<SiFuh> You find a good youtube downloader from the web on the web, then you can pretty much bypass everything. There are many out there. Not all are good
<remiliascarlet> What I did the other day was I just took the cheapest possible VPS on Vultr located in South Korea, downloaded his video from there, and then rsync'd it to my PC.
<SiFuh> That'll work
<remiliascarlet> It's a bit harder with the channel you linked one of their videos to if the list of countries they blacklist is extremely inconsistent.
<remiliascarlet> Or "niggerlist" like a friend of mine calls it.
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<remiliascarlet> He came up with that word when back in 2020 the woke forced the world to stop using "blacklist" and use "denylist" instead, because "muh racism". So he said "nope, I will double down on this instead".
<SiFuh> HAHAHAHAHAHA
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: reminds me of what the writer said
<SiFuh> That one
<remiliascarlet> The irony is that just replacing "blacklist" with "denylist" and "whitelist" with "allowlist", you only make their "racism" point of view worse. Because in their "logic", being black is ground for denial, and being white is ground for allowance.
<remiliascarlet> [ytdl_hook] ERROR: [twitter] 1789748596755108052: No video could be found in this tweet
<SiFuh> I remember when jaeger changed master on github
<SiFuh> No way was I going to
<remiliascarlet> Oh, to main I guess?
<SiFuh> It's not a video
<SiFuh> J.K. Rowling
<SiFuh> When you stop telling me to lie, I'll stop shouting the truth.
<remiliascarlet> "You must push to the master! No wait, you must push to the main, because we don't say master over here anymore!" ~ Jonathan Blow on Git.
<SiFuh> I'd like them to say it to my face and then have the pleasure of watching those fucking word maniacs limp to hospital.
<SiFuh> Makes me so angry
<SiFuh> The word black has always been associated with negative meanings but only in certain contexts. It's logical. Lack of sunlight and warmth and presence of black and cold. Okay...
<SiFuh> But you tell me what words I can and can't use, you are now telling me how to speak and how to think.
<remiliascarlet> I wonder if CVS is less cucked.
<SiFuh> So yeah, I don't need them in my head and if they try, I prefer to break their head
<remiliascarlet> It's what both OpenBSD and NetBSD are using.
<SiFuh> OpenBSD uses git as well
<remiliascarlet> As a mirror.
<SiFuh> As a non push mirror ;-)
<SiFuh> I always liked cvs and if I remember correctly OpenBSD was the first?
<remiliascarlet> I like CVS for being more retro-like, but I dislike it for having such stupid command line parameters.
<remiliascarlet> `cvs -q up -Pd -rOPENBSD_7_5` vs `git pull`
<SiFuh> HAHAHA agree
<SiFuh> But they have a GUI
<SiFuh> I remember it was pink, like the ugliest colour ever
<remiliascarlet> I like pink.
<SiFuh> The band?
<remiliascarlet> Pink and black, magenta and black, or light purple and black.
<remiliascarlet> Color.
<SiFuh> Pink and black is gross
<SiFuh> magenta and black, or light purple and black is good
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Wait
<SiFuh> Pink and black looks good if it is not a light pink
<remiliascarlet> I was originally not going to say magenta and black, but then I remembered that "oh yeah, in English "pink" actually refers to "very light pink", and the one I actually mean is "magenta"".
<SiFuh> I like magenta and lilac
<remiliascarlet> Over here we say ピンク for both light pink and magenta. And 紫 for purple.
<SiFuh> And they match black well
<SiFuh> That is probably the lightest pink I'd use with black
<remiliascarlet> Like how we used to refer both green and blue as 青 (and still do in some contexts), but then we got nuked twice in a row, and society went like "alright, let's reserve 青 for blue only, and use 緑 for green from now on".
<SiFuh> Well that's because humans didn't have a seperate word for green and blue because they were the same colour to us.
<remiliascarlet> Reminds me to one of those screensavers from back when Ubuntu used to be good.
<SiFuh> You will see that in many languages. Blue and Green are relatively new words
<remiliascarlet> Yeah, we still say "blue light" for green traffic lights for example.
<SiFuh> Vietnam had to say sky colour and grass colour to create a seperation
<SiFuh> Every other colour is a single word. ;-)
<SiFuh> In fact if you say Mau Xanh it can be bother green or blue. (Mau means colour so Xanh is one word)
<SiFuh> bother/both
<remiliascarlet> Fun fact: cats can't see red.
<SiFuh> Fun fact. We can't see most colours the Manti Shrimp can see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5FEj9U-CJM
<SiFuh> AMantis*
<SiFuh> Mantis*
<SiFuh> Mantis shrimps can deteect 12 colours and humans 3. "Imagine a colour that you can't imagine and do it 9 more times" HAHAHA
<remiliascarlet> Sounds like Mantis Shrimps have a very colorful life.
<SiFuh> Ze Frank
<SiFuh> Ze Frank did some good stuff. You might like his videos
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<SiFuh> This is brillant
<SiFuh> I don't like how he only calls it a velvet worm when it is most called Onychophora or Peripatus which is more of a general term.
<SiFuh> But it was cool
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<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-s714RNXHY 5:43
<serpente> nice
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