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<palter> SBCL's tracing infrastructure uses WITH-STANDARD-IO-SYNTAX so it's going to bind *PACKAGE* to CL-USER.
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<palter> (It's in trace-start-breakpoint-fn in src/code/ntrace.lisp)
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<phoe> beach: PCS is in the public domain just like kmp's original condition system, do as you wish with it
<phoe> BSD licence is good too, so no worries
<beach> phoe: Thank you!
<beach> phoe: I thought it was a good idea to extract the debugger, because it could be used as the default debugger in other implementations.
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<beach> ... even in implementations that don't use your conditions system (now in the Predicament library).
<phoe> beach: yes, understandable
<phoe> it's not a very advanced debugger, but it seems to work for the basic things that it does
<beach> Exactly!
<beach> And if we add a BACKTRACE command, and perhaps variable inspection, it could be quite enough for the basic debugger in most implementations.
<beach> Those things would be implementation specific, of course, but we can use dissect for that.
<phoe> sure, depending on dissect is an option
<phoe> I didn't do it on PCS in order to keep everything self-contained, but a more practical fork could have that dependency
<beach> Sure, I fully understand your objectives with the portable condition system.
<phoe> sort of a self-contained book companion thing, yes
<beach> And depending on dissect could be optional so that Clordecone can be used extrinsically as well.
<phoe> actually, hm
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<phoe> maybe that could be kept in a separate system? something that optionally extends PCS with a dissect dependency and therefore backtrace/varinspect commands
<phoe> that's doable
<beach> Absolutely.
<beach> I would need to make the HELP command optionally include other commands, but that's doable too.
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<jmercouris> Trivial sockets equivalent for unix domain sockets?
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<phoe> jmercouris: no, looks like usocket
<jmercouris> phoe: that's only BSD sockets though, no?
<ixelp> GitHub - tdrhq/cl-unix-sockets
<yitzi> not really trivial-unix-sockets since it does ffi.
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