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<dbotton> aeth: JSCL is GPL which makes it useless for most use cases even if it was complete sadly
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<random-nick> most?
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<random-nick> while most JS code is not freely licensed, its source code is transmitted to the client (unless it's minified out of practical reasons, though that's mostly just changing the names to be single letter)
<random-nick> since companies don't want to use GPL because they don't want their source code public, I'd say the reasons for avoiding GPL (and so JSCL) would be obscure
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<Noisytoot> Why does GPL make it useless? You should free your JavaScript.
<pranav> #lispcafe seems to be a nice place for the GPL conversation.
<dbotton> pranav (not that I am starting a convo on that) it is for non-gpl projects on Lisp extremely relevant
<dbotton> it is not politics and has direct baring on the entire community if a project introduces a "worm" the affects other projects in the same image
<dbotton> but there is no point agreed to discuss beyond pointing out a project's code can affect your code, take care that is ok with your project
<pranav> dbotton: I see. I wouldn't wanna police anything, but it would be nice to make the relevance concrete. I'm myself curious about what the license would be for the planned collaboration between April (APL->Lisp compiler under Apache 2.0) and Petalisp (AGPL).
<dbotton> you have no choice there - AGPL is only option
<dbotton> AGPL is the most restrictive license of alll
<dbotton> use loose almost all rights to your own software
<dbotton> No one can you a product made for Petalisp in the corporate world at all where it has its own IP to protect
<pranav> phantomics was able to get a special license for another AGPL project, namely, maxpc.
<dbotton> GPL is frequently used to create paywalls to software
<dbotton> if you want more pay and I give you another license
<dbotton> "able to get" = exception
<dbotton> phantomics better pray that the AGPL code is all their's every line or .. your code is AGPL too
<pranav> Okay, I regret making this too concrete and putting individuals on the spot for their choices.
<beach> I agree with pranav that #lispcafe is a better forum for this discussion.
<dbotton> ok
<Noisytoot> That's not how it works. The combination of your code is covered by both licenses. If still retain copyright for your code, you just need to be able to separate it from the AGPL'd code.
<Noisytoot> s/If still/You still/
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<dbotton> take to lispcafe (but no see your lawyer)
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<aadcg`> it is possible the refactor the following into a single call to regex-replace-all?
<aadcg`> (ppcre:regex-replace-all "b" (ppcre:regex-replace-all "a" "abaabba" "c") "d")
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<bike> Technically I guess you could use the thing where the "replacement" can be a function
<bike> But that would probably make your code uglier in this case
<aadcg`> yes, as I feared...
<aadcg`> I guess it's a bad idea to sacrifice readability as to avoid traversing twice
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<NotThatRPG> If anyone is interested, I have pushed some updated SBCL images to dockerhub (rpgoldman). As yet mostly untested. I'll be away for a while now, but thought I would make this known. Feedback welcome. Leave me a message with minion (still available?) or email me.
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<shawnw> (serapeum:escape "abaabba" (serapeum:dict #\a "c" #\b "d"))
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<bike> i was assuming they wanted actualy regexes, not just characters
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<aeth> Noisytoot: I'll reply in #lispcafe as pranav suggested
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