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<NotThatRPG> Looking for a little advice -- I have sbcl running in a subprocess (and inside buildapp). I get an error and ... somehow SBCL is unable to write to *ERROR-OUTPUT* and it gets into a terrible state with errors in errors. I am digging into this, but ... any idea how this could happen? I.e., is there some way that SBCL could be invoked such that *ERROR-OUTPUT* is redirected to somewhere unwriteable? Thanks!
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<mrcom> NotThatRPG: You might look at PRINT-OBJECT problems causing recursive debug invocations., too.
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<NotThatRPG> mrcom: Yes, I'm looking at that, but I'm puzzled by the notion that *error-output* could become unwriteable.
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<mrcom> What's the symptom that tells you *error-output* is kaput?
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<mrcom> I'm assuming the errors happen in the subprocess, not the main one.
<mrcom> And it's the subprocess which has *error-output* lock up, not the main one.
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<mrcom> If the main process is locking up accessing *error-output*, then there may be a shared-file-descriptor problem.
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<mrcom> To answer your first question, *error-output* absolutely could be directed somewhere problematic. I would imagine buildapp is sending the output through a pipe to the main process. If that process stops listening, then the child will eventually block trying to write.
<mrcom> If the main process *closes* the pipe, then the child will get an error with each write attempt. And if it tries to report that error to *error-output*...
<mrcom> NotThatRPG: ^
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<NotThatRPG> thanks, mrcom, that is what I was suspecting.
<mwnaylor> Someone mentioned a quicklisp inspection package, similar to slime-inspect. Stated that it was better than slime-inspect. I don't remember what is was called and get no good candidates from search. Would appreciate some help with the package name.
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<mrcom> Here's one, though it doesn't sound *better* : https://github.com/brown/swank-client
<ixelp> GitHub - brown/swank-client: Common Lisp implementation of a Slime / Swank client.
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<mrcom> Something from fukamachi: https://github.com/fukamachi/mondo
<ixelp> GitHub - fukamachi/mondo: Simple Common Lisp REPL
<mrcom> (I'm looking in ddg for `common lisp swank inspector'
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<mrcom> This isn't it, but interesting concept: http://www.lichteblau.com/cloak/decaf/README.html
<ixelp> Decaf
<mrcom> It's a Java debugger written in CL. Just the thing for your Clojure projects...
<mwnaylor> The inspector is more specialized then the client that presents the repl to the user. The inspector is a buffer that displays the slots for a CLOS instance and allows for changing the values on the fly.
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<mrcom> Oh, inspection. Maybe beach talking about Closeau? It's an in-process inspector, runs under McCLIM.
<mwnaylor> For Clojure debugging, I have been well served by the cider environment in emacs.
<mwnaylor> Closeau rings a bell. Searching on it now...
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<mwnaylor> (ql:quickload 'clouseau).... and wait, lots of dependencies.
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<mwnaylor> Start a new common lisp session and load from there. Mine has locked up a couple times. 😠
<mwnaylor> I was connected to the sbcl session running stumpwm, which meant I no longer had a working window manager.
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<mrcom> mwnaylor: You might as well go full Mezzano :)
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<mwnaylor> Closeau hangs every time I try to load it. Going to stick w/ slime, because it works.
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<random-nick> if you were running it in the same image as stumpwm maybe mcclim's X handling was somehow interfering with stumpwm's X handling?
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