#commonlisp on 2024-07-28 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2022-07-28 16:55 jackdaniel changed the topic of #commonlisp to: Common Lisp, the #1=(programmable . #1#) programming language | Wiki: <https://www.cliki.net> | IRC Logs: <https://irclog.tymoon.eu/libera/%23commonlisp> | Cookbook: <https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook> | Pastebin: <https://plaster.tymoon.eu/>

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14:10 <smlckz> While trying to build sbcl from source using an older sbcl, I encounter heap exhaustion (while compiling src/compiler/node.lisp), what can I do?

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14:13 <alcor> smlckz: You can try running SBCL with --dynamic-space-size, e.g. --dynamic-space-size 8192.

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14:37 <smlckz> alcor: no difference: ''Total bytes allocated = 266068576 Dynamic-space-size bytes = 268435456''

14:38 <beach> Try using the latest binary to build?

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14:59 <smlckz> ahh the build was successful, now running tests

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17:01 <mwnaylor> When creating modules, is a workable approach to write the code in a development directory (pehaps one w/ version control) and then symlink to something that is reachable from *load-path* ?

17:06 <yitzi> If you use ASDF you don't need to fiddle with load-path

17:07 <yitzi> And in CL "a module" is something loaded by CL:REQUIRE. Whereas with ASDF it is called a "system."

17:09 <mwnaylor> Oh. I don't currently know much about modules. I only found out about them by reading the documentation that comes with stumpwm. That does discuss messing with load-path.

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17:10 <yitzi> I wouldn't consider the terminology or the loading mechanisms that come from stumpwm to be normative. Are you asking about developing CL in general? Or developing stumpwm code?

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17:11 <mwnaylor> Maybe it's time to (info "asdf")… Was hoping to avoid learining new things before starting to work on my first stumpwm module.

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17:22 <edgar-rft_> learning new things is better than learning old things you already know

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18:12 <gerogaga`> Could someone point me to resources about creating new stream classes/the internals of streams?

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18:15 <green_> How do people go about loading two versions of the the system/package in their lisp image? One is a transitive dependency of another system, and the other will be used by my application. They will want different versions.

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18:41 <yitzi> green_: are you actually using both versions? Or are just inspecting one of the systems?

18:42 <yitzi> gerogaga`: creating new stream classes is usually done via Gray streams. You can use trivial-gray-streams or my own nontrivial-gray-streams. https://github.com/yitzchak/nontrivial-gray-streams

18:42 <ixelp> GitHub - yitzchak/nontrivial-gray-streams: A compatibility layer for Gray streams including extensions

18:42 <yitzi> Here is trivial-gray-streams https://github.com/trivial-gray-streams/trivial-gray-streams

18:42 <ixelp> GitHub - trivial-gray-streams/trivial-gray-streams: Portability library for CL gray streams.

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19:00 <mwnaylor> edgar-rft_: Learning new things is good. At some point, we have to stop learning new things and start building things. If I were opposed to new, I would not be using stupmwm and extending it.

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23:25 <selwon> clisp is now in the wasmer package registry, you can try it out with $ wasmer run selwynsimsek/clisp

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