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<pranav>
Hello, I'm trying to construct a logical pathname of a file whose name contains a dot. Since dot is also used for type marker, using the dot as it is causes parse errors. Is it possible to escape a character in a logical pathname?
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<pranav>
This is for ECL.
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<yitzi>
Use make-pathname
<pranav>
Oh. Thanks.
<yitzi>
CCL allows quoting, but ECL doesn't as a I recall.
<dlowe>
I feel like we really lost something embedding file types into filenames
<yitzi>
ECL and Clasp have pathname parsing written in C. Its a bit of a mess.
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<NotThatRPG>
pranav: I'm not sure -- is it correctly recognizing that "3" as type and not version number?
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<mwnaylor>
In 𝘗𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘰𝘯 𝘓𝘪𝘴𝘱, I read that the parameters in a defmethod do not have to have the same name as the parameters from the defgeneric, although they
<mwnaylor>
usally match. Is there a style guide or Common Lisp conventions that cover this?
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<thuna`>
mwnaylor: What exactly are you looking for? I don't know if there are any documents which declare "thou shalt not use different names for arguments in methods", but ::clhs 7.6.4 is where the allowed lambda lists for a method are specified.
<paulapatience>
I routinely use different parameter names in methods when it is clearer.
<pranav>
NotThatRPG: I'm not sure either.
<paulapatience>
E.g., if you have an input parameter, you could maybe name it string when it's a string, pathname when it's a pathname, and stream when it's a stream.
<pranav>
NotThatRPG: SBCL recognizes type as "3". ECL doesn't give any granular information except that the whole string is a pathname.
<NotThatRPG>
That's not a great implementation of `describe` for ECL (never my favorite CL, anyway)
<NotThatRPG>
Does it have an inspector?
<pranav>
NotThatRPG: The sly inspector for ECL recognizes "3" as type as well.
<pranav>
version being :NEWEST
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<NotThatRPG>
that makes sense. Good to know
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<mwnaylor>
Use case: stumpwm. I'm learning to extend it. Right now, thinking about functions/methods that will interact with a group. In some cases, I might have a group object. In others, I might have the id (a number) or the name (a string). With the type checking on parameters, it might make sense to have grp, grp-di, or grp-name as the parameter.
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<thuna`>
mwnaylor: You could treat them all as of a "group specifier" type, though perhaps that's not the best for a method
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<NotThatRPG>
Yes, making generic functions that will deal with either of the three might make your life easier.
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<mwnaylor>
Well, <type>-spec might work for the degeneric name, then something more appropriate in the defmethod. Maybe a mention int the defgeneric docstring about the probable name change in the defmethods.
<mwnaylor>
For a more standard usage of defgeneric and defmethod, I would stick with keeping parameter names the same.
<mwnaylor>
s/dege
<mwnaylor>
Bah, ignore my typos....
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