<Colleen>
scymtym: Got it. I'll let Guest74 know as soon as possible.
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<seok->
What's everyone's thoughts on Clojure?
<seok->
I've never looked into it, but it can make calls to Java right? I thought it might be good for Android development if it can make native calls on that platform
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<hayley>
The diplomatic answer would be that Clojure is off topic for #commonlisp. ECL works enough on Android that I can run Maxima on my phone.
<pjb>
And ABCL on the JVM so that you don't need Clojure there.
<seok->
How does ecl and abcl run on Android? Can they produce apks?
<seok->
I found ecl-android, but it's from 6 years ago I'm not sure if it is still supported
<Shinmera>
abcl does not work on android.
<Shinmera>
and ecl works by being a shared library that you pull in from a standard java app.
<seok->
Ah like mocl and lispworks
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<pl>
might be that only people with access (possibly the ones that paid for source license back in the day) can see the repo
<pl>
if you don't have permissions to private repo you get 404
<|3b|>
looks like wukix.com just redirects to github.com/Wukix/ in general
<lagash>
If only PicoLisp supported 32-bit ARM CPUs..
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<contrapunctus>
lagash: what parts of Qt are proprietary?
<lagash>
contrapunctus: their Android Studio-esque Qt Creator...?
<contrapunctus>
lagash: Wikipedia says QtCreator is "GPL-3.0-only with Qt-GPL-exception-1.0"
<jackdaniel>
lagash: you may always just uae the shared library and build gui in java, then it is 20mb tops - ecl-android indeed examplifies such scrnario
<jackdaniel>
scenario
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<jackdaniel>
or lqml which does not require most qt runtime libs, but I don't know how capable on android it is atm
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<lagash>
jackdaniel: pardon, what shared library?
<lagash>
jackdaniel: maybe the pre-compiled builds they have are licensed differently? kinda how M$ does that..
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<pl>
they only provide LGPLed builds every X releases, though I think you can build them from scratch if you want
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<jackdaniel>
libecl is a shared obje t you may use via jni
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<jackdaniel>
if you want to avoid dependencies like qt, that's what I'm saying
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