01:10 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> There are many usb wifi adapters that work on linux that are under $50

01:13 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> for devices that support pcie or m.2 I recommend wifi cards that use intel since its the best in the linux space

07:05 <Armbian-Discord> <C​raftWorld> Hello! Can someone please point to location of dts files on armbian github, kind of struggling to find them

08:19 <IgorPec> C​raftWorld; dts are supplied as patches patch/kernel/*

08:50 <Armbian-Discord> <C​raftWorld> found them, thanks

09:33 <Armbian-Discord> <R​obin> Hmm, I don't seem to be able to install chromium-browser via the customization script. It installs in the build, but when I boot, the browser is not able to start due to the error command /user/bin/chromium-browser requires the chromium snap to be installed. Any idea on how I can fix this issue in my build?

10:03 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> I assume you simply put soimething like "apt install chromium-browser" in your customization script?

10:03 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> In that case Ubuntu only delivers a dummy package with that name via apt that does not actually deliver chromium but this text message to nag you using snap crap.

10:04 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> There are probably 3rd party PPAs out there that build actually debs to install via apt

10:07 <Armbian-Discord> <R​obin> So, yes I do that command in the build script, BUT, the problem I have is that when I reinstall it on the device itself, it just works...

10:17 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> Hm odd. Did you execute apt update beforehand?

10:55 <Sabotender> yes, I know you said 'under 50USD' but I am more specifically referring to budget wireless adapter devices, I don't care about cards, because not every one has a PCI slot. I am talking about USB, this USB wireless adapter cost me a cool 14USD which is a bargain, and again, it uses a chipset from a well known manufacturer, Realtek

10:56 <Sabotender> it supports USB 3.0 for fast data transfer with the higher bandwidth support. These are all important for people interested in productive throughput

11:03 <Armbian-Discord> <R​obin> Yep!

11:03 <Sabotender> also many ARM-based devices won't have a PCI slot anyway, and USB would be their only option. and if they are using and utilising such an embedded device, they weren't spending much to acquire it in the first place, and I highly doubt they would be interested in breaking the bank to get an expensive wireless adapter device anyway.

11:03 <Armbian-Discord> <R​obin> It just installs, that's no issue, the main issue is here that it just decides not to work on the orangepione

11:03 <Armbian-Discord> <R​obin> Then I need to manually re-install it

11:04 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> Hm do we even ship chromium for armhf?

11:04 <Sabotender> the point I am trying to make is that there should be support, out of the box support, for these wireless adapters

11:04 <Sabotender> I just don't want anyone to go though the same heart ache and stress that I went though, which was ridiculous

11:05 <Sabotender> it was not easy

11:05 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> We do not....but no clue where it grabs after boot

11:07 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> On the other hand why do you want to run DE and Browser on OPi1? With 512M memory is quite limited

11:08 <Armbian-Discord> <R​obin> This is what I do in that customize script.

11:08 <Armbian-Discord> <R​obin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1065950891930288128/image.png

11:08 <Armbian-Discord> <R​obin> I know it's really limited, but it's to just display a full-screen browser page (fairly static)

11:09 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> Hm using FF or vivaldi instead isn't an option as workaround?

11:09 <Armbian-Discord> <R​obin> We are looking at more powerfull hardware, in which that build script can come in handy.

11:11 <Armbian-Discord> <R​obin> If vivaldi can support the same things for automation (puppeteer and such) then, yes! We need some browser automations we use with the debug tools

11:11 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> Cannot help with that sorry, no clue if that is the case.

11:11 <Armbian-Discord> <R​obin> Yeah, thought so :p

11:12 <Armbian-Discord> <R​obin> No problem tho!

11:13 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> As for now I suggest to add some debugging info into the customization to get an idea where it fetches the chromium package from and what it install and then check against what happens after boot reinstall

12:16 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> There is a list of usb wireless adapters that work in linux and some of them are cheap

12:19 <Sabotender> I don't doubt that, absolutely, but there should be wider support. I know that many can only be supported on a case by case basis

12:20 <Sabotender> as a matter of fact, I remember the first time I inquired about this particular adapter, I got a bunch of 'good luck's and that Realtek is know to have poor support under numerous Linux distributions

12:21 <Sabotender> and they were even trying to get me to return the adapter and get one with a different chipset

12:25 <Sabotender> this driver that I am using works. and its apparently rare for a Linux driver to offer concurrent mode support, in addition to AP mode managed

12:26 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> Armbian has significantly better support for wireless dongles then any other Linux out there. But this is wide area and we are killing problems with zero budget

12:27 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> vendor made a driver and throws tar.gz to the wild ... and forget about

12:35 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> https://github.com/morrownr/USB-WiFi

12:35 <Sabotender> I agree that its not easy to expand support under a limited budget, the most I can do is inform interested parties of my success stories, and I can guarantee that neither of the major Linux distributions provide support for this particular adapter, and if there were 'support' it was horrendously broken with partial support, and it makes one wonder why even include that in with the kernel

12:35 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> The github page has links to in kernel devices and out of kernel devices

12:39 <Sabotender> the primary reason why I am asking so much in the Armbian channel is because I believe that it will absolutely rise above all those other distros I've tried in the past and offer a brilliant out of the box experience. Also, tethering support should be included as well, for Android and iPhones, because not everyone has access to LAN connections initially, and its nothering to include usbmux with the distro

13:15 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> Almost all distros include tethering

13:24 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> If apt does not force the reinstall of snapd then armbian x86 might be worth using as a better ubuntu

13:28 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> armbian x86 did not boot but I might have to try another build

13:39 <Sabotender> this is so not true, lol

13:39 <Sabotender> not out of the box, which is my primary focus here

13:40 <Sabotender> these distros assume that you have access to an ethernet LAN connection just because the port exists on your hardware, and thus you 'd need to install tethering libs via an internet connection which you never had to begin with

13:41 <Sabotender> this is something that they seem to fail to understand

13:42 <Sabotender> I tried four distros and only one had usbmux and other tethering libs included with the distro image which was flased to microSD

13:49 <Sabotender> *flashed

13:56 <Sabotender> i believe that alternate methods to connect to the internet should be offered out of the box in an embedded environment, but on other platforms as well. . People making assumptions is what got me in this situation in the first place. trying to download a driver to compile from git with no access to the interet except via tethering , which was not available in the distro

13:56 <Sabotender> it was a..what's the word? catch-22?

14:00 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> Sabotender: in embedded you buy hardware and make your own linux

14:05 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Sabotender: you have te remember... embedded devices are specialzed purpose built... they are not intended to be all purpose general hardware like PCs..

14:05 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> er specialized

14:07 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> There's a lot more customization and unique tuning that needs/should be done to make each design be designed properly.

14:21 <Sabotender> that' doesn't make sense

14:21 <Sabotender> 'special purpose'

14:21 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> oh, it makes sense

14:22 <Sabotender> my odroid is operating under a special purpose, which required an internet connection to install libs to make this 'special purpose' work

14:22 <Sabotender> but fine. I am done arguing. my point isn't hitting home and I wo't bring it up again

14:28 <Sabotender> download the driver and compile it for use with my own success. I would have preferred to use Armbain, but it seems like a lost cause atm.

14:28 <Sabotender> I wish the Armbian project good luck and scuccess, if you decide to support my hardware in your kernel and other out of the box libs, let me know, I am always on this network in other channels,I've just asked about this specific adapter several times with no update here, and I've just received pushback. and just so you know, the original Hardkernel image for my odroid offers out of the box support for tethering , which is how I was able to

14:32 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> Sabotender: download armbian build framework and do whatever you want

14:32 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> support your own hardware or support someone else

14:34 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> build image with stock kernel and everything will work the same

15:48 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> The asus tinkerboard works fine under the kernel that asus uses and nothing else

15:49 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> Mainline might work but asus does no work for it

17:16 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Lol Jason what are you talking about?

17:16 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> The RK3288 tinker board or the RK3399 one?

18:51 <Armbian-Discord> <K​FC Employee Of The Month> hey so I have a banana pi m2 zero that's running armbian luna

18:51 <Armbian-Discord> <K​FC Employee Of The Month> and I noticed it had pip and python preinstalled

18:52 <Armbian-Discord> <K​FC Employee Of The Month> but the pip doesnt work, it says

18:52 <Armbian-Discord> <K​FC Employee Of The Month> ```

18:52 <Armbian-Discord> <K​FC Employee Of The Month> ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement dearpygui (from versions: none)

18:52 <Armbian-Discord> <K​FC Employee Of The Month> ERROR: No matching distribution found for dearpygui

18:52 <Armbian-Discord> <K​FC Employee Of The Month> ```

18:52 <Armbian-Discord> <K​FC Employee Of The Month> and not just dearpygui, it does that for all libraries

18:53 <Armbian-Discord> <K​FC Employee Of The Month> nor can I install miniconda since for some reason the aarch64.sh version uses conda.exe and the installation process stops at the exe part

18:55 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> this is some software / python / userland ... no idea, try to ask here https://forum.armbian.com/forum/203-software-applications-userspace/

18:56 <Armbian-Discord> <K​FC Employee Of The Month> k