06:33 <Armbian-Discord> <b​albes150> https://forum.armbian.com/topic/22986-firefly-station-m3-rk3588s/page/4/#elControls_156639_menu

13:46 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> @balbes150 what are you trying to say? The mainline kernel support still doesn't support anything more than a serial console.. that's all I said. I didn't ask for anything.

14:14 <Armbian-Discord> <b​albes150> the LAN runs on the main core, this is enough for headless operation in server mode.

14:14 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> @balbes150 What hardware though?

14:15 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> 3588s is still very incomplete

14:15 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> and on the 3588's even worse

14:16 <Armbian-Discord> <b​albes150> rk3588 https://forum.armbian.com/topic/24931-armbian-efigrub-nvme/?do=findComment&comment=156630

14:17 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> You need to give instructions or procedure how to recreate these images btw if you really want people to be using them. "I" wouldn't just start downloading some randomly created image without a way to recreate it if I was looking for one.

14:17 <Armbian-Discord> <b​albes150> station m3 = rk3588s = work LAN (SD\eMMC)

14:22 <Armbian-Discord> <b​albes150> creating your own images is the lot of geeks (a small handful who are capable of it), the vast majority of users just need a working system, they are engaged in work, and not in the development and creation of core \ images. and for them, SbS\PC is only a tool for work, and not a toy for picking at the kernel and sources.

14:23 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> @balbes150 irrelevant..

14:23 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Not giving the instructions or documentation is poor practice.'

15:09 <Armbian-Discord> <b​albes150> You don't like ready-made ones - you buld your own, everything you need is freely available.

15:13 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> @balbes150 "You" just putting an image out there without anyone knowing what is in it and how it was made does "not" help anyone

15:15 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> If other people can't readily recreate this work then what value is it?

15:16 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> It is just going to be repeated over and over and over and duplicated needlessly

15:49 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> I saw you say "readily recreate", and that triggered me to proselytize about Nix

15:52 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I (and many others) just don't find in general it a good idea to push something out there and just say "Here... it works...oh and if not.. good luck to you"

15:53 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> agree

16:06 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> I've just been chugging a lot of flavor-aid about Nix (and NixOS), and have nothing to add to your conversation. That's all I was saying

17:32 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> Does the orange pi zero 2 have good software or is it still not good?

19:19 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> Only legacy is more or less usable AFAIK

19:39 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> legacy is what kernel?

20:55 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> vendor, innit?

21:08 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> for the orange pi zero 2