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<lanefu>
I still think the possibly abandoned rock 3b would be the ultimate light NAS board
<archetech>
hey fu
<archetech>
diggin my rock5 w/ ssd boot
<archetech>
armbian got out front on htis board like I cant beleive
<archetech>
this*
<archetech>
not hard to beat radxa devs though
<lanefu>
Lol
<lanefu>
Mine are still in their boxes. You're using armbian uboot on SPI?
<lanefu>
What are you doing with yours?
<archetech>
jerrkin around
<archetech>
kde gnome etc
<archetech>
speaking of nas some are using a 5 port m.2 sata jm585
<archetech>
noew thats a nas
<archetech>
now
<lanefu>
Yeah I've been eyeballing that path. Almost ordered their m.key to SATA breakout and a jm5xx multiplier
<archetech>
yup me too gonna see what others do in next month or so first
<archetech>
ill wait for mainline in feb or so
<archetech>
then arch will eat armbians lunch enjoy the lead ya have while ya can ;)
<lanefu>
Yeah I glanced in the mailing list that the pcie proposed code needed to be reworked but smells like 6.3ish where it's worth playing with
<archetech>
6.3 rc1 cant come soon enough
<archetech>
balbes did some neat stuff with efi/grub might give that a try
<lanefu>
For rock5? Using rockchip's edk2 stuff?
<archetech>
yup
<archetech>
dloadin g from russia though who knows whats hidin in those img's
* archetech
waves a bottle of jbeam to attract tonymac
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<archetech>
gah kwin dumped the core
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Ditch grub
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> It does nothing for you
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> hey archetech
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> where that Jim at
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> grub is fine, ManOfTheSea is being contrarian for the sake of it
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 😄
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> EFI not grubby
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> everything is grubby
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> like your hands
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 😄
<archetech>
lol hi T
* archetech
ignores comments that make no sense
<archetech>
grub is a pkg that could make multi boot on arm quite easy
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> what is a good benchmark for sbcs?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> it looks as if glmark2 been removed from debian stable
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> I am going to benchmark some sbcs that I have
<archetech>
ya missed my posted benches of common sbc's yest
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> what benchmark tool is used to benchmark sbcs?
<archetech>
passmark and glmark2
<archetech>
same as any
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Wolfo> Hello
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> hi
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> glmark2 is not in the debian stable repos
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> is unixbench a good benchmark tool?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> every benchmark known to science creates number without meaning unless the context of the benchmark is known
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> so sure, for what unixbench is for, I'm sure it's "good"
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> tkaiser would not agree 😉
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> benchmarking is like polling before an election 🙂
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> tkaiser never agrees, but on this one he might. Even his tool is useless for some things
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> for me, any gl benchmark is just a waste of effort since I rarely use the ugly D shaped ports 😉
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> yeah, its certainly more scientific approach if you don't agree then believing into some benchmark because its popular and known
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> well if the same benchmark is done on different computers then the higher score would be more powerful device and lower would be less powerful
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> maybe 😄
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> i think its just a complex question
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> again, if it's measuring something pointless
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> it won't help
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> yeah, and you have to be very careful that the thing being measured, is actually being measured
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> for example tkaiser had to add a clock checking routine to his benchmark suite because a lot of these SBC's outright lie about the system clock speed
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> unixbench is open source so its not like the program can be faking the numbers
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> you misunderstand
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> if you intend to check your disk I/O speed, for example
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> oh lying about the clock speed
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> and instead your file fits in cache
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> you will benchmark your RAM instead 😛
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Yeah, it's a complex question. I would run a series of benchmarks to get an idea, not just stick to one
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> Is there any way to get glmark2 on debian?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> without going to sid
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> no idea
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I don't do anything graphical on these devices with any regularity
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> the ones with screens are being configured with Sway
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 😄
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> sway might be better performance then x11 since its wayland
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> yeah, but it's tiling
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> so not nice for average Joe Armbian
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> who used to be average Joe Raspbian
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 😄
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> it does install very easily, I have to say
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> for GLMark2, what are you trying to compare?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> just between some devices
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> well glmark2 is not going to work headless
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> sure
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> I will just try unixbench
<archetech>
no way to tell which img's are extlnux vs armbianENV type
<archetech>
on dload page for rock5 id like a kinetic extlinux minimal/cli
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<jock>
hello all!
<jock>
quick question: has the menu to select u-boot/kernel only compilation been removed intentionally on armbian build system? I'm in expert mode and the building scripts don't ask anymore since latest 6.1 bumps
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> jock: yes, its waiting to get back soon