05:12 <Armbian-Discord> <W​eeirish> Im mega new and need some help if anyone has a moment.

05:13 <Armbian-Discord> <W​eeirish> If anyone has experience with the T95 H616 boards

05:58 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> Mega new, this section is dealing with things we never heard for https://forum.armbian.com/forum/64-maintained-hardware/

05:59 <Armbian-Discord> <W​eeirish> Ill check it out, I figure someone would know how to flash firmware on one of these TV Boxes.

05:59 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> yes, that forum will know if anyone

06:00 <Armbian-Discord> <W​eeirish> Looks like no - Darn.. I just have to get a H6 style box.

06:01 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> why not? What have you done so far?

06:01 <Armbian-Discord> <W​eeirish> Well I can't get the thing to accept any firmware from any source.

06:02 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i know nothing about this tv box, so you are wasting time

06:02 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> what have you done in sense of finding the information?

06:02 <Armbian-Discord> <W​eeirish> Yeah normally people go inovato with the T95 H6 style

06:02 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> https://forum.armbian.com/forum/194-allwinner-cpu-boxes/

06:02 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> you find there, you ask there. as there you can find people that does this

06:02 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> we don't

06:03 <Armbian-Discord> <W​eeirish> Gotcha

16:03 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> @IgorPec what kind of TB/month does an armbian mirror see?

16:05 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> @TheBug do we have some fresh info?

16:06 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> I'm thinking of offering a full mirror (including archive).

16:08 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> depends on what is mirrored and location

16:09 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> One with full archive can do 5-6TB outbound / 500-2TB inbound, generic dl/apt/light archive mirror seems to do about 500GB-1TB in and 1-2TB outbound a month

16:10 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> only 6TB of usage?

16:10 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> that seems low

16:10 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> and location is important becaue certain locations have less mirrors

16:10 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> no, there is a lot of mirrors

16:10 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> so it's spread out

16:11 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> we use a redirection service that will return top 3 random mirror in your area to help distribute traffic

16:11 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> ahhh that was my next question, how you spread stuff out 🙂

16:11 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> is HTTPS only okay?

16:12 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> adding HTTP would require a bit more messing with the security policies on our domain

16:13 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> I want to say I am not sure, it would probably be preferable if possible to offer both

16:13 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> I would have to check how the redirector reacts there

16:13 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> could end up disabled in the director if someone tries to pull by http and it fails

16:14 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> I would have to ask thge dev who maintains the redirector for us

16:15 <Herc> btw, mirror.funkfreundelandshut.de doesnt offer https, only http works

16:16 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> interesting.

16:16 <Herc> (wrong in the json list https://apt.armbian.com/mirrors )

16:16 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> does this cause some failure

16:16 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> or how did you notice this

16:17 <Herc> I checked all those listed mirrors some days ago

16:17 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> gotcha

16:18 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> why would someone try to pull via http though? 🙂

16:18 <Herc> and yes, https..funkfreunde gave an 404 error IIRC

16:19 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> Your right it isn't setup right and probably should be removed from the mirror list for now.

16:20 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> Well I said this already but maybe it wasn't clear, I am guessing you live in US or Euorpe wher your internet isn't monitored, but there are some Asian and other countries which have firewalls which make it difficult to access https since it can't be tracked and user is forced to drop back to http. While most will prefer and likely use https, since it's open source software, there is not reason this has to be enforced

16:20 <Armbian-Discord> that way.. it isn't confidential information, etc

16:24 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> hmm fair

16:24 <Herc> at least those links shouldn't fail IMHO, I just wanted to let you know, not a big deal for me

16:24 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> let me see if I can figure out how to allow HTTP.

16:24 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> @Herc no your right that needs removed and the mirror owner contacted -- the problem isn't per se it doesn't have https, it's that it responds on https with another site.. which is worse..

16:25 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> I will test if it will accept http only and if you set it up with https to start I can always add it and we can test @dave but if you can get http working, all the better

16:26 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> thanks, will be sometime this month that we get our mirror up and running

16:28 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> @dave in reviewing the config here it seems they are all basically forwarded based on how you request, so if someone does an http request and your in the list it will try yours with http and then if it fails I imagine after 1-2 failures it gets put in time out for a period of time before being retested and I bet the test will be via https, so without http I think you would see a situation where it 'works' but your

16:28 <Armbian-Discord> mirror would be going up and down when people request via http and it isn't there.

16:30 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> @Herc that mirror is now disabled for now, thanks for reporting that

16:30 <Herc> np

16:31 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> hmm, would it follow the 301 redirect to HTTPS though?

16:32 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> again grey area without testing, but if apt-https-transport package (or whatever the correct name is) isn't there it could result in a failure when encountering the redirect

16:33 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> right, good point

17:11 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> okay, I think I got http working too now. Wasn’t as hard as I expected.

19:03 <stipa> good

20:19 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> real stupid question, what's cache.armbian.com for?

20:24 <stipa> looks updated

20:24 <stipa> prob something important

20:28 <stipa> it has the newest kernel in there, maybe something directly connected to the kernel source

20:32 <stipa> maybe a mirror of the kernels in case the github goes down

20:32 <stipa> or other place that host the kernels

20:36 <stipa> maybe it's faster that way to build something

20:36 <stipa> if that is on some server that builds

20:37 <stipa> that to go to the wan and download the kernel each time there's a new one

20:38 <stipa> maybe "cache" means fast access

20:38 <stipa> to the kernels

20:42 <Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> "cache" is for non-Github mirrors of stuff in GH releases. The shallow git bundles and rootfs caches.

20:42 <Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> No kernels, though.

22:13 <archetech> its beer oclock Tony

22:23 <Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> @IgorPec is there a "source of true" like rsync.armbian.com but over HTTP(S)?

22:25 <Armbian-Discord> <p​sztoch> Why do we add ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c 'exec /bin/sleep 10' to /etc/systemd/system/serial-getty@.service.d/override.conf ?