00:00 <stipa> what are the problems being resolved ATM

00:00 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> that does sound like a good idea

00:00 <stipa> https://docs.armbian.com/Release_Board-Maintainers/

00:00 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> yeah board maintainers know best

00:00 <stipa> some you can find here on libera, some on discrod, some one forum

00:02 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> armbian is on librea?

00:02 <stipa> yes, i'm on libera

00:03 <stipa> libera IRC servers network

00:04 <jason123santaoni> on arm boards irc works better but I am not on an arm board right now

00:07 <stipa> i use weechat client in a tmux

00:10 <jason123santaoni> I use znc that is hosted on a raspberry pi zero 2

00:10 <jason123santaoni> irc bouncer

00:11 <stipa> many do, yeah

00:11 <stipa> i do think about to roll my own but it seems like work

00:12 <jason123santaoni> znc is so easy to setup and it works on the pi zero w when I was using that

00:12 <jason123santaoni> switch over to the raspberry pi zero 2

00:13 <jason123santaoni> don't even know if armbian works on raspberry pi zero/zero 2 boards

00:13 <stipa> yeah, if it's not on the supported boards list probably not out of box

00:14 <jason123santaoni> raspberry pi 4 is supported but don't know if its just pi 4 or not

00:14 <stipa> i see only rpi4b

00:14 <stipa> it's only that board

00:16 <jason123santaoni> raspberry pi images sometimes work on the pi 3 and pi zero 2

00:16 <jason123santaoni> though i am assuming its only for the pi 4

00:16 <stipa> that's the only one being tested, i wouldn't have high hopes on anything else expect rpi4b

00:18 <jason123santaoni> if my pi zero 2 was not running as a server I would try it

00:19 <stipa> why do you want to run armbian on it?

00:20 <stipa> raspbian should provide whatever one needs already and it's probably rock solid

00:23 <jason123santaoni> yeah no reason to need armbian for it

00:26 <stipa> life is boring when everything works and not fun when it doesn't

00:35 <jason123santaoni> yep

00:40 <jason123santaoni> I am thinking now to get the cheapest board and then run pihole on it

00:40 <jason123santaoni> it can't be a pi zero w because ethernet would be better for pihole

00:40 <stipa> i run it, gave up

00:41 <jason123santaoni> why did you give up?

00:41 <stipa> web browser ad blockers do the thing

00:41 <stipa> pihole won't bloc keverything

00:42 <stipa> maybe there's less traffic on a LAN but i didn't feel any change

00:42 <jason123santaoni> pihole is in addition to the web brower adblocker for devices that don't have support for ublock

00:44 <stipa> there's no harm in having it on

00:44 <jason123santaoni> the zeropi is $40 on amazon and if power supply is not so expensive it might be good

00:45 <jason123santaoni> the orange pi zero also looks good

00:47 <jason123santaoni> don't think pinhole needs much resources to run and would run fine on 512mb ram

00:49 <stipa> it logs a bunch of data

00:49 <stipa> runs a server

00:49 <stipa> 512 is tight

00:50 <stipa> but you can turn logging off

00:51 <stipa> https://docs.pi-hole.net/main/prerequisites/

00:52 <jason123santaoni> yeah 512mb ram would work fine

00:54 <stipa> i struggle with a gig sometimes

00:54 <jason123santaoni> with pi hole?

00:54 <stipa> with whatever

00:55 <stipa> with low ram boards the ram is always the culprit

00:55 <stipa> with 512 you can't run desktop environemnt

00:56 <stipa> with 1 GB and 1GB of zram you can open a web browser tab

00:56 <stipa> that's nothing

00:57 <stipa> if you go greedy you hit the max memory cap and you're gone for a reboot

00:57 <stipa> with 512 you'll probably have a server that'll get into some memory overflow and freeze

00:58 <stipa> with some more you could catch it in time before freezing

00:58 <jason123santaoni> i host all my stuff on a pi zero 2 with 512mb ram

00:59 <jason123santaoni> though it would not be best for pi hole since its wifi only

01:00 <stipa> do you run pihole on it now? what's, how much ram is free?

01:01 <jason123santaoni> no i don't have pihole running

09:31 <Armbian-Discord> <B​erzerkula> 2022 and we all worried about 512mb ram... I have a Dual Pentium MMX 233MMX that can do 512MB max with 4x 128MB, are we behind the times or what?

09:31 <Armbian-Discord> <B​erzerkula> and that's 4 72 pin ecc simms

09:31 <Armbian-Discord> <B​erzerkula> am I missing something or is this backwards?

09:32 <Armbian-Discord> <B​erzerkula> 1990's gear

09:33 <Armbian-Discord> <B​erzerkula> can we all start getting gear in 2022 that is over 4GB ram?

09:34 <Armbian-Discord> <B​erzerkula> you all getting 512MB in DDR 666 or something else?

10:23 <nekomancer[m]> ECC not in servers is a lost technology of an elderlings.

14:14 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> I feel like networking speeds haven't increased as quickly, either.

14:14 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> Like, my entire computing memory has been with 1 gigabit ethernet

14:16 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> hmm, ratified in '99

15:16 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> Thing is fiber has existed that whole time and there have been solutions for 10-100Gbit for many years, just not in the recreational / consumer market because of the price. But 10/40gbit molonox (sp?) Cards have been around for quite a while and even are almost affordable now if you want to buy into the architecture

15:24 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> yeh. Did you see CNX on the Octeon 10?

15:24 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> Get a DPU for your DPU?

16:14 <jock> hey!

16:22 <Armbian-Discord> <B​erzerkula> 1: squirrels, rats and others chew on them to sharpen teeth. 2: when underground, easy to breach 3: when up above, don't put them up above.

16:22 <Armbian-Discord> <B​erzerkula> The price is too high for sure

16:22 <Armbian-Discord> <B​erzerkula> at least they survive underground runs

19:19 <sinfull> Hi, I'm own an old bpi m2 berry...I'm searched for a good system but the armbian was not officially supported. then I found an image from the bananapi wiki, it was put in there yesterday and it's  Armbian_22.11.0-trunk. is it okay?

19:20 <sinfull> what do you think about that?

19:21 <sinfull> sorry for that question

19:21 <sinfull> but can someone say anything to that?

19:30 <sinfull> can I use it without sorrows of security and because it's trunk is it useful for me or hard do fix problems?

19:30 <sinfull> and can I trust them?

19:31 <sinfull> that's all I need to know for now...

20:02 <[TheBug]> Trunk indicates that someone used the build system to build their own image (Ex: vendor them selves) vs it being built as an official Armbian image -- as far as it being Armbian, it is built with our tool so it is 'Armbian' as per what is in that image, as it is not official we can not actually say. It will be if you trust the vendor them selves and their image in this case... not if you

20:02 <[TheBug]> trust Armbian..

20:03 <[TheBug]> the builder does what it is programmed to do, we have no perview over custom built images.

20:08 <Armbian-Discord> <c​0rnelius> it's a phony. it's a big fat phony!

20:08 <[TheBug]> PHONY1

20:22 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1050145417641332856/brown-white-piebald-shetland-pony-260nw-1446131192.webp

20:35 <sinfull> okay, thank yo