04:39 <Armbian-Discord> <P​1kachu> Hello Community !

04:39 <Armbian-Discord> <P​1kachu> Have anyone user Arduino IDE or any other alternative softwares in Armbian to write and upload codes in Arduino/ Esp32?

04:39 <Armbian-Discord> <P​1kachu> Thank You

10:21 <Armbian-Discord> <S​tefano Roncalli> Hello @Tenkawa and sorry for late answer. I'm trying to write in "fstab" during the customize-script.sh with no luck.

10:21 <Armbian-Discord> <S​tefano Roncalli> I'm using this script

10:21 <Armbian-Discord> <S​tefano Roncalli> echo 'tmpfs /Cache tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec,nodiratime,size=1024M 0 0' | tee -a /etc/fstab

10:21 <Armbian-Discord> <S​tefano Roncalli> If I use it in customize-script.sh, during compilation, it don't do anything (and don't rainse errors)

10:21 <Armbian-Discord> <S​tefano Roncalli> If I run it in Armbian in normal use, it write correctly in fstab

10:23 <Armbian-Discord> <S​tefano Roncalli> Another thing I can't achieve in customize-script.sh is to pull some docker images I need at boot.

10:23 <Armbian-Discord> <S​tefano Roncalli> in my script I install docker.io and docker-compose but I'm not able to run "docker pull", anyone know why?

12:17 <lanefu> Stefano share your command and error messages in a pastebin

12:19 <tomde> I did, after discovering more about the currently still prevailing shortcomings for the OPiZero2 (thanks to stipa for the pointers), some attempts with DT overlays. I obtained compilation errors apparently due to still quite vague understanding of how overlays are to be produced. (problem for example: missing references to nodes) I asked about this in the forum, beginner's section.

12:21 <tomde> Idea in the thread there is to elucidate the common concepts in DT overlay compiling.

13:25 <Armbian-Discord> <S​tefano Roncalli> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/orh7ES79 here the code and the error reporter

14:12 <Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> @Stefano Roncalli I don't think that is gonna work; during customize, the image is running under (possibly qemu'd) chroot, but the actual system services are not running (no systemd). Doing things like "installing Docker" will work (it downloads & deploys the packages) but the Docker daemon/service will not be started, and thus you can't use it. That shows up as the "FileNotFound" error, which is trying to find the

14:12 <Armbian-Discord> daemon's socket, which is not there. Split your process into two... one during image build, one during the first run of the image on the actual board.

14:15 <Armbian-Discord> <S​tefano Roncalli> ok, thank you very much for explanation

14:17 <Armbian-Discord> <S​tefano Roncalli> maybe I should download image "before" compile and put them in userpatches folder to use them

14:17 <Armbian-Discord> <S​tefano Roncalli> ?

14:18 <Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> If I understand your intent is to have an image that has docker pre-deployed & has images pre-pulled. You might want to look into some daemonless Docker-like alternative, like podman -- that can pull images and export them as .tar during image build. Then on first run, you use Docker to "import" the .tar as a Docker image.

14:20 <Armbian-Discord> <S​tefano Roncalli> ok, I ran into an article that suggest exactly this approach

14:21 <Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> good luck and have fun

14:22 <Armbian-Discord> <S​tefano Roncalli> thank you very much

14:22 <Armbian-Discord> <S​tefano Roncalli> have a nice day

17:41 <stipa> tomde: good

18:25 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> Okidoki, moved the root directory from my sd-card succesfully to my ssd. But can you explain why the sd-card is still mounted?

18:25 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1058088289078366311/image.png

18:28 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> @h4rp00n33r did you adjust your fstab extlinux.conf uuids?

18:29 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> Nope.

18:29 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> thats why

18:30 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> Okay, so if I unmoint the ssd the /boot folder is empty

18:30 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> *the sd-card

18:30 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> yes but look in /etc/fstab

18:31 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> do you see an entry for boot?

18:31 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> similar (but not identical) to

18:31 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> UUID=7C7D-297C /boot vfat defaults 0 2

18:31 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> Yes, both entries are in the fstab:

18:31 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1058090003982458970/image.png

18:32 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> you have to get the uuid of the /boot you really want

18:32 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> and update it

18:32 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> okay i can do that, no problem.

18:32 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> but then the /boot-folder is empty... 😕

18:33 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> you need to mount -a afterwards

18:33 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> did you copy everything over?

18:33 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> no

18:33 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> well you have to transfer it if its new

18:34 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> be careful though.. this can make your system hiccup booting if done wrong

18:34 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> 1. unmount the sd-card from boot

18:34 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> 2. copy all files from the sd-card to the new folder

18:34 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> okay, i'm careful. thx 🙂

18:35 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Let me ask this first... what is your "end goal"

18:36 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> I don't want to use the sd-card. everything should run from my ssd.

18:36 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Ahh

18:36 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> x86_64?

18:36 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> No Banana Pi (armv7l)

18:37 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I'm going to defer back because I know nothing about that SoC and its u-boot's booting capabilities (most can't boot directly from anything but microsd/emmc and some nvme)

18:38 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I'll let someone else chime in if they have the unit

18:38 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I don't have any of the BPi's

18:39 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> Oh, okay. I'm just wondering why the /boot-folder remains on the sd-card while everything else is transferred to the ssd

18:39 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> thats why

18:39 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> It "can't" boot directly

18:40 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> That's what I was referring to

18:40 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> Okay thx anyway. 🙂

19:10 <Herc> there is a forum entry too: https://forum.armbian.com/topic/18351-solved-bananapi-pro-boot-directory-still-on-sd-card-after-moving-to-sata-ssd/

19:13 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> Wheee! Cool bot... 😬 Thank!

19:13 <Armbian-Discord> <h​4rp00n33r> *Thanks

19:15 <Herc> IIRC nand-sata-install exits to do it automagically

19:15 <Herc> exists*

20:07 <Armbian-Discord> <e​zweber> Does anyone know where I can find a minimal stable OS image for a BananaPi M2 Zero? The Kinetic minimal image at https://www.armbian.com/bananapi-m2-zero/ has issues with WiFi which renders it useless for me. Thanks in advance!

20:10 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> presumably, you want a minimal image that has working wifi?

20:10 <Armbian-Discord> <e​zweber> Yes

20:10 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> In which case, I'd suggest you start with the image you referenced, fix the wifi, and contribute the solution back.

20:11 <Armbian-Discord> <e​zweber> Alright, I'll try harder I guess.

20:14 <Armbian-Discord> <c​0rnelius> do a dmesg | grep brcmfmac and check for errors. missing firmware and what not.

20:19 <Armbian-Discord> <e​zweber> This is the error I get on boot and output of that command.

20:19 <Armbian-Discord> <e​zweber> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1058117136788230184/PXL_20221229_201829175.jpg

20:19 <Armbian-Discord> <e​zweber> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1058117137132179516/PXL_20221229_200322276.jpg

20:20 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> no firmware?

20:20 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> @ezweber another thing you can do if you don't need most recent image is you can check archive for older images that work -- https://armbian.tnahosting.net/archive/bananapim2zero/archive/ - however, if you are able to find the issue and contribute to a fix that would be a help.

20:21 <Armbian-Discord> <c​0rnelius> i would say the missing *.txt file is a problem

20:22 <Armbian-Discord> <e​zweber> I'll see if I can find a way to fix that and the .bin file.

20:22 <Armbian-Discord> <e​zweber> Thanks

20:23 <Armbian-Discord> <e​zweber> Yeah, I'm not too worried about being completely up to date. If worst comes to worst I might use an older working one.

20:24 <Armbian-Discord> <c​0rnelius> symlinking the already present files with the name its asking for should suppress those errors. not sure if the current txt file is correct though.

20:25 <nettings> [TheBug], c0rnelius, follwing up on the HC4/SATA drama you kindly offered your help with last week: https://forum.armbian.com/topic/25123-sata-disks-not-spinning-up-after-apt-update/

20:26 <nettings> [TheBug], I think your recommendation to power the drives externally would work, but I haven't had the chance to make/order the necessary cables yet.

20:28 <nettings> For now, I'm looking for another ARM board with two SATA ports that is able to saturate a Gbit link from and to the harddrives, with minimal power usage. No fancy graphics or other features needed, should run latest vanilla Armbian and have a vendor who supports Armbian - recommendations?

20:47 <stipa> there's a NAS board

20:48 <stipa> nettings: https://www.armbian.com/odroid-hc4/

20:53 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> https://tenor.com/view/you-need-to-pay-attention-mariah-milano-dinner-with-mariah-you-need-to-listen-you-need-to-focus-gif-23356338

20:53 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> facepalm stipa...

20:56 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> nettings: more so if there is a problem with your HC4 my thought would be to contact HardKernel once your prove the issue and see if they will fix/replace. Otherwise there isn't any specifically made for what your asking about really, not without having to add sata controller or a case, etc etc... HC4 is one of the few that offer such a dock thing like that

20:56 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> You can use for example a RockPro64 + sata card + case for drivers and have a nice NAS, but there really isn't many integrated solutions.

20:59 <stipa> T​heBug the board i proposed is exactly what he wants, pay more attention

20:59 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> its what he already has, he asked for another option... now whos paying attention 😄

21:01 <stipa> just use x86 then

21:02 <stipa> the next board would probably fail too

21:19 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> helios4? Helios64?

21:21 <stipa> i feel like a scammer proposing boards that don't work

21:21 <stipa> what have i become

21:37 <stipa> https://hackaday.com/2022/12/27/dietpi-releases-8-12-with-support-for-the-rockchip-rk3588-soc/

21:44 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> Yeah only if you could get them, unfortunately Kobol is no more...:/

21:45 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> agree

21:46 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1058138843481645128/Capture_2022-12-29-16-45-252.png

21:55 <stipa> M​anoftheSea pay moar attention

22:03 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> I know, but ebay?

22:04 <[TheBug]> Touche

22:04 <nettings> [TheBug], ManoftheSea, stipa: thanks. Yeah, shame about the Helios64, that looked like a dream box. But the whole thing seems non-trivial, I saw quite a few kickstarters for similar boxes fold lately... Guess I'm going to go with a RPi CM4 and PCIe SATA adapter for now (because I have them already). The RockPro64 I looked at, but yeah, if I have to add a PCIe adapter, I might as well use my Pi. And all the Bananas

22:04 <nettings> I have here only have a single SATA port, need two... :(

22:05 <nettings> Good point about contacting Hardkernel, though.

22:05 <[TheBug]> Were you using the drives in a raid?

22:06 <nettings> [TheBug], on this one, no. On two others, yes. But software RAID1, of course. So easily transplanted...

22:08 <stipa> go with the cm4 and let us know the results

22:08 <stipa> i'm curious

22:08 <nettings> stipa, will do.

22:08 <[TheBug]> Well the reason I ask is there is a number of solutions -- plus I will just add this comment for your thoughts -- re: HC4 - Armbian uses 2 x HC4 in 'production' which are either storing data or running an actual mirror (https://xogium.performanceservers.nl is run from HC4) , so they are reliable for the most part, so one of the thoughts I have is you order another hc4 and contact them about

22:08 <[TheBug]> RMA the one you have, after testing and confirming the issue is 12v line is failed in the port. This way you have some information for them.

22:09 <nettings> stipa, re using x86, I considered that, but I find ARM-based solutions are more energy-efficient generally, which matters to me since it's running 24/365

22:10 <[TheBug]> After that, I would say one option which isn't so bad if you plan for it correctly is those orico 2/4 bay USB 3.0 docks, if used with an 80mm/120mm 5v USB fan on top of drives for cooling it can be as reliable as HC4 and you can connect to any board you like and pretty much end up with same performance if not doing raid. If you do raid you obvious are now sharing the single port...

22:10 <stipa> nettings: good

22:10 <nettings> [TheBug], so you have an HC4 with recent upgrades running 3.5" spinning rust?

22:11 <[TheBug]> yes in fact I took mine out and booted it as well after our last chat, it is on my desk..

22:12 <nettings> [TheBug], i'd actually be relieved if it's a hardware failure, since the thing is cheap for what it does. But I got spooked by two other users reporting the same issue lately...

22:13 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1058145751227695174/20221229_1712592.jpg

22:15 <[TheBug]> nettings: out of curiousity did you ever setup fan control on your HC4?

22:15 <[TheBug]> you will notice in my pic there I have it setup and it outputs to OLED on my unit there

22:16 <[TheBug]> it will change display if temps go up and speed up

22:19 <nettings> [TheBug], actually, no. But it runs pretty cool, and currently at around 15° ambient temperature. It mostly just sits there, and only pulls updates at night, when even in summer it was probably always below 25°C ambient.

22:20 <nettings> But I will set it up on the other two I have now that you point it out.

22:21 <[TheBug]> yes but you need also recall that that is an enclosed space with essentially two heaters on top of it in a plastic container -- the ones which we run 24/4 have 2x8TB drives and we use something similar to this on top to make sure they stay cool: https://www.amazon.com/ELUTENG-Computer-Receiver-Compatible-Playstation/dp/B06Y5WWBHH

22:21 <[TheBug]> The fan controls for the internal fan are not to help with the drives at all

22:21 <[TheBug]> it's simply to keep the SoC cool under the added heat of the drives on top

22:21 <[TheBug]> and keep air moving

22:22 <[TheBug]> the larger fan just prevents having to worry about it or the drives having to get to hot and can be powered from the USB port on the device in a server enviroment

22:22 <[TheBug]> s+24/4+24/7+g

22:22 <ArmbianHelper> [TheBug] meant to say: yes but you need also recall that that is an enclosed space with essentially two heaters on top of it in a plastic container -- the ones which we run 24/7 have 2x8TB drives and we use something similar to this on top to make sure they stay cool: https://www.amazon.com/ELUTENG-Computer-Receiver-Compatible-Playstation/dp/B06Y5WWBHH

22:23 <nettings> duly noted. Oh, and neat bot trick. Does it do sed?

22:25 <nettings> [TheBug], FWIW, my other production HC4 runs at 47°C. Nothing I'd worry about, but yeah, for the summer I will set that fan up.

22:46 <[TheBug]> believe it does basic regex with sed context yeah

23:00 <nettings> Ok, SATA controller _and_ a replacement HC4 ordered.