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<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> that was branch v22.08 at the time I started this effort (a few weeks back)
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> if you have local changes I might not be able to test this
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> I can test a "default" clearfogpro with that nic added but not your exact scenario
<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> let me push my latest changes
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Ok.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> push is taking a long time, sorry
<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> you should be able to reproduce by just checking out c20ed267596f6cfde63c3764eefb922b9729bb87, adding a userpatches/config-armbox.conf from https://paste.debian.net/1265386/, and echo 'BOARD=clearfogpro' >armbox.conf, then run compile.sh armbox
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> ok let me give it a try
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> pulling the git with "all" refs does take a while.. (usually I only pull depth 1 but to checkout yours I needed them all)
<archetech>
all those commits but nobody has a patched 6.2rc yet hmm
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> archetech: yes... in HEAD... that has not been put in an active rc/kernel yet for integration
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Thats why development takes so long
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> its not an instantaneous process
<archetech>
so you have the supposed experience whats your excuse
<archetech>
;p
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Some of these changes are going to be approved.. some will be rejected... some will be pushed to 6.3 even
<archetech>
id do it but tobetter always had the patched source
<archetech>
to make it easy
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> @multi_io so glad I updated my bandwidth a few months back... been so much faster
<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> lol ok
<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> I still have only 16 MBit here 😭
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> My old connection was horrible
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> I went from 20mb to 100mb
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> ok its about to compile kernel
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> ack... got to add armhf support
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> didn't realize this was an armhf box
<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> is that a problem? 😅
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> no... just didn't have it setup
<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> k
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> my build box is being ... fickle
<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> ok ... I'm building in Docker btw., don't think that makes a difference
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Not for that original error
<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> right
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> the one "I'm" running into is just I have a new setup on this os...
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> If I used my other box it could do it but I don't trust it for what I want to look for
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> found it
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> got to transfer files..
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> ack.. machine just crashed... brb
<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> k
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> That was wild...lets try that again
<lanefu>
archetech: trivia info.... Panfork guy is not welcome within the community of the panfrost project etc so it's gonna be unlikely to see that got code ever accepted into main project. So.... Moar fragmentation
<lanefu>
Lol. Yeah def don't expect him to care. Just felt obligated to assist with aware
<lanefu>
Back to work tomorrow should probably crawl back into the hole i crawled out of lol
<Armbian-Discord>
<c0rnelius> not a bad idea, for sure.
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<archetech>
fragmentation is good ;p and LFS building is oppos of easy cheesy moron
<archetech>
at least try to make zingers close to true
<archetech>
I read about pfork dev i'd like to hear some facts around it vs some hoard of devs that got angry
<stipa>
usually those who spread gossip are to blame
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Fragmentation is the #1 problem Linux has had since day 1... and following a set of instructions to build something is easy... Understanding them is a completely differently story.
<archetech>
stipa: thats been my view of gossipers
<stipa>
archetech: yeap, probably the pfork guy is the only one doing something
<stipa>
and the rest pussies riding on the success of others
<archetech>
could be just jealousy no panfork thered be no g610 function
<archetech>
or very poor function
<stipa>
it could
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> I'll have to take a look more tomorrow... that machine is just really acting up.
<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> ok
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> It keeps crashing
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Its been having hardware problems
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> It might be finally about done
<stipa>
where is the machine?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> What do you mean where?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Its just a laptop in about a 40F degree room
<stipa>
i thought it's some mighty 256 core server
<stipa>
at least it sounded like it
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> nah... just 12 core laptop
<stipa>
prob overheating
<stipa>
blow in the cooling fins
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Not getting far enough
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Its acting like the power supply...
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> It took a bad power hit 2 nights ago
<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> is it an x86 laptop? or ARM?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> x86\
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> I'm typing on my big arm one
<stipa>
hard to say what's wrong hile it's still running
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Its locked up 6 times since the power hit randomly
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> sometimes just idling
<stipa>
yeah, tricky fault
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> What bothers me is I have lightning protection now... but I need internal power sep I think
<stipa>
if it's not the cu probably cpu got hit
<stipa>
the PSU
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> yeah
<stipa>
maybe run a memory test
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Oh well.. .It lasted several years so I'm not complaining... and its my last x86
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> I'm trying to ditch x86
<archetech>
lost an N2 now a laptop eh
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> I lost a N2+
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> lightning
<archetech>
heard of using a ups
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> my N2 hit by the same hit survived
<archetech>
they insure your gear if APC ups fails to protect (example brand)
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> archetech: UPS's don't help when you are gone for weeks at a time... grounding rods would possibly have
<archetech>
bs
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> archetech: and yet again your lack of insurance policy shows
<stipa>
you can't do much when the lighting hits
<stipa>
it jumps over protections
<archetech>
bs again
<stipa>
it's just metal to it
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> stipa: 12 foot grounding rods into the ground would've at least provided "something".... it took the full hit
<stipa>
if it encounters zener in reverse it'll fry it and jump over to the next trace
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> I have them now when my hvac had to be upgraded (not my choice but hey why not)
<archetech>
ups has large chokes that blow preventing any high current to get to gear
<stipa>
ups have hard time staying on when power goes down, let alone stopping lighting
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> I never said a ups would
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> that was archetech
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> I agree they wont
<stipa>
archetech: is selling us some promotional propaganda about ups tech
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> You need to diffuse the current to ground asap... thats your best/only chance
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> And thats luck...
<archetech>
so one they stop lightning guaranteed by mfr 2 they run on battery and allow for orderly shutdown even if you are away and have that setup
<archetech>
so much bs here
<stipa>
the best bet is metal cage
<stipa>
grounded
<stipa>
and isolated power in the cage
<stipa>
but you never know with the lighting
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Yeah... Have you seen those ones they build for telecom equip at the ends of the street nowadays with ac units/etc?
<stipa>
it just fries everything
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Those have so much grounding in them
<stipa>
no, what?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Then again you should see the circuit isolators on my house
<stipa>
yeah, some have rods on the roof
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> I have 440v and 220v circuits on my garage and I'm about 30 ft from the pole
<stipa>
so when it hits it hits the rods and goes to the ground, but honestly it mostly comes through electric grid
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> The previous owners of this place had it really wired up
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> well, that's a problem. There remains nothing good in Ohio
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> I recognize that album
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> the picture
<stipa>
oh, then yeah, they needed more power
<stipa>
if they had to produce stuff
<stipa>
run some machines and stuff
<stipa>
that's extra
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> yeah
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Wolfo> Help me
<archetech>
The Fly ^
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> multi_io: stick to master branch and problems you see are related to extra wireless drivers. Either use EXTRA_WIFI=no or fix compatibility issues. AFAIK this hw hasn't been pushed to 6.1 and dunno if it will be.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> are all your changes only to userpatches?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> Hello and Merry Christmas, I've a doubt with a command I put in my customize-image.sh
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> I'm trying to setup a tmpfs putting configuration in my fstab
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> If I try to achieve this after boot, I've no problem but, if I try to run the same command in customize-image.sh, it seems nothing change
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> the script I use to automate this action is
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> echo 'tmpfs /Cache tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec,nodiratime,size=1024M 0 0' | tee -a /etc/fstab > /dev/null
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> merry chrismas
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> first remove /dev/null so you will see what is going on
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> thank you, I'll try it soon
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> it seems it just echo "tmpfs" without adding to fstab
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> this is the strip of my logs
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> "adding tmpfs" is just an echo I added to find easily the poiint
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> I'm pretty much a newbie with linux, maybe I'm missing something?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> fundamental question is why would you do this?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> as memory management was done by professionals already
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> tmpfs is compressed
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> I need a tmpfs in my system to save data from/to a cloud api
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> to avoid too much read/write on my SD card
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> why don't you re-use the default ones?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> data are everytime differnt
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> data are about device status and screenshot
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> that device collect and send to log status of device during time
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> customization script work
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> as otherwise you would not see thing
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> why it doesn't change . debug more
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> customization script works good for everything else. my script is 70 rows script and the only thing I can't achive is that command
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> maybe "fstab" is not esable/available for some reason?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> (I don't know if it's possible)
<Armbian-Discord>
<Wolfo> After pressed restart button in gui
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> this is your problem
<Armbian-Discord>
<Wolfo> It has been more than 5 minutes and it didn't restart
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> don't know what you are telling me this??
<vpeter>
Another example of "nice" communication :-)
<vpeter>
I really don't get the point of Armbian IRC and forum.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> vpeter: it seems you have the time to waste if you are reading. solve the problem
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> forum is for you and him
<vpeter>
I have all the time in the world.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> i am not your support staff
<vpeter>
I just like reading :)
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> and i like talking to people this way 🙂
<vpeter>
This is already known.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> not enough i guess
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> this is typical support shit... subject is repeatedly spamming the channel
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> at least 4 times
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> the problem is known, topic is on the forum
<vpeter>
You see I don't really care for this. But reading Armbian discussion makes my day brighter :-)
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> what else would you want? that i say to my familly fuck off and help this parasite?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> i know. its fun
<vpeter>
At last we are on the same page. Good.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> when you will start helping those poor people?
<vpeter>
So you are just having fun. You should tell me that before we had long discusion few daysback.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> i have done my time
<vpeter>
Tell me something: What is the purpose of this channel?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> it was not a discussion
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> to discuss
<vpeter>
Was not? I typed, you typed, .... this is discussion for me.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> well i told you - that you are beeing ignored
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> as this is not the place for such discussions
<vpeter>
But you still typed and typed. And still do. This is not ignoring :-)
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> if you want to talk, you set a meeting
<vpeter>
Sure!
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> if you jump up in here, default is ignore
<vpeter>
I don't need help.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> unless you are a friend
<vpeter>
So this channel is only for friends?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> no, if you expect normal conversation
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> if you expect support, you have to understand "no" is a valid answer
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> some people don't accept "no" and keep on pushing
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> and tolerance can't really be large as they are wasting my private time
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> for the problem in software that hasn't be even done by us in hardware that wasn't made by us
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> vpeter: users need help. Help them. Since you have time and you are so full of advises. I don't need them. Wolfo might need them - to solve his technical problems.
<vpeter>
Didn't you read above that I just reading this for fun?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> so you are just patronizing others. This is also common around here.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> remind me on tkaiser
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Stefano Roncalli> sorry for the question, how could I debug this? is there something like a debug mode in customization image or compile script?
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<vpeter>
I'm not patronizing anyone but only telling my pov. Something is given to users and then they got shit on whatever problems they have. Armbian supposed to be so superior to other distros cooked "in house" but at the end of problems both works the same. But with "in house" distros at least you know what you get.
<vpeter>
So the first mistake from beginner users is to use Armbian and the second is to ask for any help.
<vpeter>
And now sun come out and it's time to leave.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> they have to understand that this here is amateur support
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> they don't work the same and you should know it. this is custom hardware world and other distros either copy paste or use generic support which is just a lot worse
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> there are many distros that in past 10 years hasn't solved not a single bug
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> but they compete with us. this is another reasons why free support just doesn't make any point. at least on board support level
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> users can ask for help, but they need to stick to basic rules. if you repeat your support DEMAND 3 x, you can only get ban
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> anywhere
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> and the same burden I have, you have. Why should I be helping Armbian users in first place? Why don't you help them?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> over that "lets say 5000 hours" we already do pro bono for them?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> anually
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<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> @IgorPec I already set EXTRAWIFI=no, got another (later) compile error (drivers/gpio/gpio-mvebu.c:949:3: error: ‘ctrl_set’ undeclared (first use in this function); did you mean ‘css_set’?), caused by another patch
<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> HOWEVER, I just now tried v22.11 instead of v22.08, and that fixes it and I get an image
<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> is the master branch more stable/recommended?
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<Armbian-Discord>
<multi_io> v22.11 works even without EXTRAWIFI=no
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> @multi_io always more adviseble
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> to start with stable branch
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> you can update the kernel afterwards
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> even the branch itself with apt
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> (and I think there's an armbian tool too now)
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<Armbian-Discord>
<patrickdickey52761> Hi there, everyone. I have an Inovato Quadra that's running 5.15.63-sunxi64 and I'm trying to figure out how to enable the modules for ax25. Everything I'm finding online fails because it doesn't appear to be available in /lib/modules/5.15.63/kernel/net. Any suggestions on what to install would be greatly appreciated. Something like kernel-modules-extra or linux-5.15.63-extra, maybe?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> @patrickdickey52761 more than like ax25 is going to require a kernl rebuild
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> thats ancient
<Armbian-Discord>
<patrickdickey52761> Ugh. My understanding is it's in the Armbian kernel already. Unless they removed it after putting it in 5 years ago.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> let me check
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> btw you are giving me flashbacks
<Armbian-Discord>
<patrickdickey52761> LOL Sorry if they're PTSD flashbacks. 😄
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> (I was a X.25/OSI guy in my early career)
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> back many decades ago
<Armbian-Discord>
<patrickdickey52761> Well, amateur radio's motto is if it ain't broke, why update it...
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> true
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Yeah I was a ham at that time too
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> I never got my packet ax25 working
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> only regular x.25
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> ok.. sunxi... checking config now
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> do you have the module name by chance you are looking for?
<Armbian-Discord>
<patrickdickey52761> ax25.ko? At least that's what the pac-linux group calls it. But, it could be anything for all I know.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> hmmm that isn't in the config at all..
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> thats the armbian build scripts
<Armbian-Discord>
<patrickdickey52761> So, in theory, it should show up in either lsmod or grep -i "ax25*" /proc/kallsyms
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> see if a sudo modinfo ax25 shows anything
<Armbian-Discord>
<patrickdickey52761> Not found.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> very odd
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> yeah the only other 2 things I'd say is check zcat /proc/config.gz | grep AX25 and see what it says
<Armbian-Discord>
<patrickdickey52761> I'm not above installing the current kernel from the Armbian github and scrapping the ones that are provided by Inovato.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> And see what a sudo find / -type f -name "ax25.ko" output shows
<Armbian-Discord>
<patrickdickey52761> CONFIG_AX25 is not set.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Yeah definitely compiled without
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> no support
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Going to need to rebuild it
<Armbian-Discord>
<patrickdickey52761> My guess is they compiled with the minimal support they could.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Yeah
<Armbian-Discord>
<patrickdickey52761> So, adding an armbian repository and installing the kernel from there isn't an option?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Is this an Armbian/Debian based system?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> or do you have access to one?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> @Werner you would be better on this one
<Armbian-Discord>
<patrickdickey52761> Yes it is. Essentially it's a Raspberry pi clone.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> @IgorPec or you
<Armbian-Discord>
<Werner> Inovato Quadra forked Armbian to build the firmware for their board. So they are not using official Armbian. Therefore we cannot help
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Ah
<Armbian-Discord>
<patrickdickey52761> Gottcha. It was worth a shot. I guess it's a I got what I paid for situation. Thank you for your help though. I'll push it back on them.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Werner> Ideally they would partner up with us and merge necessary changes to support their board into our build system.
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<stipa>
vpeter: be nice
<stipa>
the purpose of IRC and everything else is communication
<Armbian-Discord>
<TheBug> @patrickdickey52761 They patch Armbian for a few things custom, like wifi, so they have their own build. They also, however, have their own forum and do document as good portion of this for you: https://forum.inovato.com/post/building-armbian-from-source-12449428
<Armbian-Discord>
<TheBug> Building Armbian from source
<Armbian-Discord>
<TheBug> To build your own firmware from sources, you'll need access to a Linux computer (or VM) running Ubuntu Jammy with at least 10G free space. For Quadra users, there is no need to build your own images. This article is for those technical folks that want to have more control over their firmware. If you just need to reinstall the firmware, see the ...
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<ManoftheSea> riscvian
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<stipa>
ass V
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<Jason123> riscvian is not the future
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<Tenkawa> @Jason123 what is?
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<Jason123> hmmmm
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<Jason123> don't even know but right now it looks like x86 is going to say around for awhile
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<Tenkawa> of course it will
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<Tenkawa> noone ever said risc-v was going to replace it.. neither will arm
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<Tenkawa> X86_64 is going to be here for at least another 10-15 years ) easily
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<stipa>
Tenkawa the future is quantum
<stipa>
prototypes do in a day what the most powerful supercomputer does in hundreds
<stipa>
i asked around in #qauntum what it is and it has nothing to do with computers of today
<stipa>
it's like opening wormholes and stuff like that
<stipa>
the hottest topic is error correction
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<Tenkawa> Considering there are people still using windows 7 on computers from the 1990's and early 2000's... There will be a need for these a long time
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<Tenkawa> Some people will "never" change
<stipa>
well, quantum is for sure pipmp stuff further
<stipa>
like, better everything
<stipa>
synthetics and that stuff
<stipa>
fast interplanetary comms
<stipa>
it's a very cool technological platform
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<multi_io> what is the stable branch?
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<multi_io> master
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<multi_io> ?
<stipa>
if the board is mainlined than mainline
<stipa>
if not, then it's automatic
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<Tenkawa> if you look at Armbian/Ubuntu/Debian... each version/release is listed by its type... LTS are long term support stable... SID in debian are devel...
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<Tenkawa> so like you had those two release dates you listed
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<Tenkawa> what did they show up under?
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<multi_io> there is no branch named "mainline".
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<Jason123> eh well windows 7 is more towards 2010 then early
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<Tenkawa> He doesn't know the conext we are talking about
<stipa>
multi_io some boards run mainline kernel
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<Tenkawa> You do not know what we are discussing
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<multi_io> I mean the branch of the "build" repository.
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<Jason123> Don't almogic boards need meson patches for the board to boot?
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<Tenkawa> @multi_io master is the latest changes
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<Tenkawa> but thats not what I referred to in my message to you this morning
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<Tenkawa> and not the problem you are encountering with the kernel
<stipa>
well, let take for example a board, the newest stable image has a version, the nexst one should be current one
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<multi_io> ok sorry for the confusion
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<Tenkawa> For best behaviour yes... most of them will "get by" along without them
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<multi_io> I solved my problem by using branch v22.11 instead of v22.08. But current master also works. So I'm wondering which branch to use going forward
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<Tenkawa> But yeah the Amlogics are a bit picky
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<multi_io> I want to build an image for use in a home router, so real-world usage, not development.
<stipa>
you hunt for a stable one
<stipa>
and leave it like that
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<Jason123> yeah I want to see if void can upstream those patches into the void kernel
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<Jason123> Most of it is just the meson patches so if they can get added to the void kernel then it should be beneficial for most almlogic devices
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<Jason123> arch arm all ready has the patches required for arch to boot on amlogic
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<multi_io> you mean the configs in config/boards/? They aren't complete obviously, still require user input for OS, kernel target etc.
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<multi_io> so what's chosen for those settings?
<stipa>
multi_io i guess it's auto when the new images come out, i guess the server is in Slovenia with IgorPec
<stipa>
what is in the source probably is what is built
<stipa>
everything is built in one go, all boards
<stipa>
for how scripts look for that i have no idea
<stipa>
that automate the process
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<multi_io> ok maybe I'll ask @IgorPec when he'e back
<stipa>
around 9 hours from now he should be here
<stipa>
idk if team member have access to whole system, probably yes
<[TheBug]>
multi_io: instead if you have questions like that you should ask them in the forum and let community answer instead of poking people directly
<stipa>
yeah, there's good info in the forum
<stipa>
better than here even
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<multi_io> ok I will
<stipa>
here is mostly "you can go an fuck yourself" type of communication
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<multi_io> 😂
<stipa>
on forum everyone is super nice
<tomde>
Hello, if a device can be booted up, but no wireless adapter is visible in ifconfig (even though the device surely has the hardware), what can be done to activate it? I thought I'd use armbian-config, but cannot get this started either.
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<[TheBug]>
I would first figure out if that wifi device is even supported, many built on wifi devices have epicly crap drivers and so some are not supported in Armbian / Enabled because they would be such crap they are unusable.....
<[TheBug]>
thats without asking any of the commonly needed items to even start to answer that further.
<stipa>
tomde: yeah, search for the driver/module first
<[TheBug]>
One of the best ways is to check the download page for the image you downloaded as well as seareching in the forum to see if anyone else has reported similar issues
<[TheBug]>
the download pages will often note caveats where they are known
<tomde>
Hello. ... and where would I can find whether it is supported? I am going to Download, device choice, hardware specs
<stipa>
tomde: it's supported if you can find a linux driver for the wifi chip
<stipa>
tomde: if you can't after hours of googling you might be in bad luck
<stipa>
tomde: what is the name of the wifi chip you have, and which board do you have?
<stipa>
try to hunt for the wifi chip with 'lsusb' command
<stipa>
or no
<tomde>
manual says: "AW859A Chip" in the wifi section. will go on search now ....
<stipa>
yeah
<Armbian-Discord>
<TheBug> The issue is that there are other people who can answer this besides Igor and Igor's time is some of the most valuable here. So if you would like to get better answers to those questions, posting in the forum both allows you to get an answer and in the future when others are curious of the same, the answer is already there in the forum and doesn't need to be repeated. So the most productive option is not directly
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messaging or asking Igor, but asking where it benefits the most people, the forum.