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<lord_daemon>
what does this "Armbian-Discord>" do in the channel?
<lord_daemon>
archetech, videos look good on it?
<lord_daemon>
mxq 4k rk3222 is too slow!
<lord_daemon>
BRL 964.87 too expensive for Brazilians
<lord_daemon>
;D
<lord_daemon>
I'm looking for something cheaper that runs vlc videos
<archetech>
odroid N2+
<archetech>
so I got armbian minimal kinetic w/ X mesa-23.0 working on the rock5
<archetech>
needed a ppa and a vlob
<archetech>
blob
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<[TheBug]>
"Using the estimate that Elon Musk generates around 10 million thoughts on an average day, it would take approximately 800 Elon Musks to fill the grand canyon with useful or productive thoughts."
<archetech>
Random Fortune: [In 'Doctor' mode], I spent a good ten minutes telling Emacs what I thought of it. (The response was, 'Perhaps you could try to be less abusive.') -- Matt Welsh
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<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> well, then I guess the fix would be to translate current systemd.network units into a armbian-default.yaml.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> that would probably be best, yes
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> no matter how this might be bad, i have all my home network setup done with netplan
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> and have very complex setups
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Eh, I'm just having a "moved my cheese" moment.
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> This one is saying "if network manager is installed, prefer it, EVEN THOUGH there's a systemd/network config". I don't think it is actually netplan
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> on the other hand, the default config of eth0 is a mistake and will conflict on the ebin, a headless board without wifi that doesn't need Network Manager.
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> ebin is so much NOT a normal armbian system...
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> and mochabin's processor is as old as ebin...
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> You know, I'd like to show off how ebin boots UEFI through u-boot, to allow someone with more familiarity with Armbian build to help me understand how to move in a non-breaking way. Or, really, just to have a show-and-tell of an EBBR-compliant board to see the future. Is that of interest? Is friday chat a good time for that?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Berzerkula> Yep, use either systemd-networkd or the crappy network manager.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> yeah, friday chat is good for that
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Berzerkula> Frigg don't care
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> Aww.. why not good ole interfaces(5) lol
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> aka ifup/ifdown
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> likes the classics
<Armbian-Discord>
<Berzerkula> why not just build it in the kernel and use ip=dhcp or ip=<set your interface options here> not boot script required.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Berzerkula> some OS will try to override what the kernel setup so scrap what the OS is trying to do.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> when systemd came about it wasn't so bad... as noted above... netplan and the added systems came along it got worse and worse with the overlapping systems
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> "I" like ifup/ifdown because I've used it for almost 30 years
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> For a laptop though you "do" kind of need a more flexible network manager than ifup/ifdown unless you want to do a lot of manual work
<Armbian-Discord>
<c0rnelius> Its much easier to use ifupdown in Debian currently. Doing so correctly on say Ubuntu requires you to disable some services.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> (if you connect to a lot of ssids like I do)
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> agreed
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> yeah that's what I think they were lamenting above
<Armbian-Discord>
<c0rnelius> netplan is a joke... noplan it should be called.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> lol
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> doesn't it use something like yaml/xml?
<Armbian-Discord>
<c0rnelius> yes
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> uggh
<Armbian-Discord>
<c0rnelius> its not hard, but you need to relearn what u know to use it.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tenkawa> I almost vowed I'd never touch xml again after I had a 2 year job working on it
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