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<lanefu>
K I respect your practicality. As an FYI Generally speaking low end sd cards cause a lot of unexpected behavior and our forums and docs site have very explicit warnings about sdcards and power supplies
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<darsie>
any idea why the opi0+ red led double flashes?
<lanefu>
CD /sys/class/led
<lanefu>
Then the respective one
<lanefu>
And. cat trigger
<lanefu>
Heart beat is probably the default
<lanefu>
That your seeing
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<darsie>
Ahh, blink blink = beat beat :)
<darsie>
I tihnk the SD card was bad. didn't respond properly when inserted.
<c0rnelius>
i don't have that opi but the ones I do have its under orangepi:red:status: echo "none" | sudo tee /sys/class/leds/orangepi:red:status/trigger
<c0rnelius>
I usually link it to mmc my self and turn off the green led. But yeah...
<lanefu>
but frankly tahts more around distro bloat
<lanefu>
im sure we have some exta stuff now too
<stipa>
oh dang
<lanefu>
stipa: what device
<lanefu>
are you running
<stipa>
almost a gig
<lanefu>
want me to build you a minimal image just so you can see
<darsie>
I don't like how the initial config sometimes takes keystropes without enter. When I press enter, I worry it might then skip something, or take the default of the next question.
<stipa>
Linux orangepilite2 5.15.29-sunxi64 #trunk.0010 SMP Wed Mar 16 17:23:40 UTC 2022 aarch64 GNU/Linux
<lanefu>
darsie: sorry
<stipa>
lanefu: no need i'm good
<darsie>
lanefu: Is it your fault? :)
<stipa>
just follow it and do what it want nd you'll be fine
<lanefu>
darsie: nope. lol
<darsie>
ssh coudn't connect after initial boot (ping worked), so I thought I did somethnig wrong, but it just hadn't booted, yet.
<lanefu>
darsie: if you got an IO error during dd.. you can't trust that image on teh card
<lanefu>
all bets are off
<darsie>
yeah
<darsie>
Ohh, btw, it's such a relief that mc is installed by default :).
<darsie>
Ahh, ssh-key login failed, because I didn't change the ownership to root.
<stipa>
lanefu: Up time: 248 days , that's fine mate
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<lanefu>
oh god mc is installed by default.... no wonder we got bloat lol
<darsie>
:)
<lanefu>
stipa: I'm not entirely sure where that SBC is either... I think its hanging of a POE adapter in the bedroom or something
<lanefu>
but yeah maybe i'll just let it idle its way to a championship
<stipa>
lanefu: wherever it is it's not compaining
<lanefu>
hahaha
<lanefu>
wahts more amazing is that means my switch has 248 days of uptime
<stipa>
good engineering
<lanefu>
ha yeah
<lanefu>
and i'm powering on my generator and getting plugged in before the UPS drains lol
<lanefu>
I moved my network stuff to its own UPS, so that does help with uptime
<stipa>
yeah, the UPS is awesome, last time i lost power my server booted into mtest for some reason
<stipa>
i had to rinstall
<stipa>
it fucked the disk badly
<lanefu>
oh that sucks
<lanefu>
i just hate like startup sequencing
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<lanefu>
switch, router, AP's, NAS, compute nodes
<lanefu>
always feels like something had to be tickled
<stipa>
what about automating it?
<lanefu>
i'd lose my uptime unplugging shit
<lanefu>
lol
<lanefu>
really i guess router, switch, NAS, compute would be preferred sequencing
<stipa>
for two years i had to turn my wifi repeater after the AP so that it can connect
<stipa>
i got myself a script on repeater when there's no ping to restart itself
<lanefu>
yeah that stuff is annoying cuz its like.... you dont want to fix it in the moment
<lanefu>
but then later you dont want the downtime to test
<stipa>
i was so happy
<lanefu>
hahha good
<lanefu>
yeah i do need to work on that some.. cuz i also got like a bunch of VPN tunnels that need ot come up etc too
<stipa>
yeah, automation is awesome
<stipa>
just for checking for ping can be automated alot
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<stipa>
lanefu: if your switch really has to be second in a sequence you can make a relay controlled with an SBC to cut the power to it or smthn
<stipa>
i guess the switch hasn't got linux on it
<lanefu>
stipa: yeah of course
<lanefu>
tasmoto has some sequencing support
<stipa>
i see
<stipa>
that's cheaper than SBC even
<darsie>
I'm using my 64 GB card now. It had a 21 GB debian iso on it.
<stipa>
awesome
<lanefu>
stipa: yeah i mostly prefer just esp-based devices and tasmota for that kinda stuff
<lanefu>
it just works
<lanefu>
and integrates with home assistant
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<stipa>
lanefu: yeah, it's geared to that, i guess sonoff stuf can be hacked to work with that?
<lanefu>
yeah sonoff stuff was original tasmota target
<stipa>
fancy
<lanefu>
so yeah flashing the things is annoying, but usually thats a 1 time thing
<stipa>
i think it's worth the hassle
<darsie>
613M unused. / is 58.9G.
<darsie>
no reboot to resize message.
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<lanefu>
darsie: wait confused did it work or no
<darsie>
I guess it resized without rebooting.
<lanefu>
yeah usually it can do it without rebooting
<darsie>
Still left some over.
<darsie>
maybe for swap?
<lanefu>
what do you mean
<darsie>
613M unused.
<lanefu>
unused what
<darsie>
disk space. Could make another 613M partition.
<stipa>
of 58.9G
<lanefu>
was probably just the resizing tool calculated teh partition space
<lanefu>
anyway sounds like it worked as expected/designed
<darsie>
I configured new partitions with fdisk without writing. one 3M and one 613M are possible.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<nold> can i download nightly builds somewhere? I'm looking for Armbian_22.05.0-trunk_Nanopct4_bullseye_current_5.15.25_xfce_desktop.img.xz or no desktop
<IgorPec>
if not present at download pages, then you need to DIY
<ArmbianHelper>
^ Arm SystemReady SR-certified Ampere Altra Developer Platform launched for $3,999 - CNX Software
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<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Heh
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> over priced . they need to bring it way down
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> yeah getting closer... i mean if you were to get the "equivalent" spec'd latest xeon workstation it would be the same or more
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> its a neoverse dataenter/server class CPU cores not like a bunch of A72 s
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> I guess
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> ok
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Xeon would cost more for the performance equivalent?
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Neoverse... So i can think of it as like the rk3588?
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Because the 3588 has A76 cores, right?
<lanefu>
Neoverse way beyond A76
<lanefu>
Neoverse == Epyc... 76 == ryzen
<lanefu>
for a weak comparison
<lanefu>
all the Axx cores are still just kind of "low power" general purpose cmopute
<lanefu>
Neoverse is exclusively server class
<lanefu>
so memory IO, cache, cores yadda yadda
<stipa>
dang "LED button to toggle through the LED lighting modes of the 5 ARGB system fans, which consist of 12 colored lighting effects and off"
<stipa>
that alone is worth 1k
<stipa>
but, i think that no more than 1500$ would be a reasonable price
<stipa>
and there's probably work to do
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Neoverse N1 microarchitecture (code named Ares) based on the Cortex-A76 redesigned for infrastructure/server applications.
<stipa>
for devs it should be free of charge with paid shipment fro their side
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Yeah, just like the Ford Mustang Mach E is based on the Escape
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> But for $4k I'm guessing I could build a system that would stomp it to dust,
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Doesn't mean I don't want one to play with though
<stipa>
well, there's a bunch of cores, maybe they think if they have 80 that ppl will think it's better than the 64 core threadripper
<stipa>
which is alone more expensive than that arm build
<stipa>
i think that that tactic won't help
<stipa>
since the buyers of such thing know that arm cores are slower
<stipa>
but again, that's a lot of cores
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Well the 4k is going to be the 32 core one
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> There are ways in which they are comparable, and ways in which they are contrastable.
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> But I'd like to better understand the statement that Xeon would cost more for equivalent performance.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I don't believe that statement either to be frank. I think that's one of those highly conditional statements
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Not that Intel's pricing for enterprise stuff isn't just trash...
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<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> 4k for 32 arm cores and 32 gigs ram?
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> at 1.7 GHz
<stipa>
heh, i tought 4k is 80 cores
<stipa>
32 cores one should definitely cost less
<stipa>
but, maybe it's the chip crisis
<stipa>
i forgot about that
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<stipa>
before the crisis i could eye on a price, now since the prices are rising all the time it's hard to do that
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> I went to Dell, and spec'ed an 8 core Xeon (E-2378) at 2.6 GHz, with 32 gigs memory, at 3k.
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> I don't know if that's comparable specs.
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> But it doesn't have the LED button to toggle the lights, so...
<stipa>
maybe there are tests online
<stipa>
something server based ARM cores should do the trick in comparison with Xeon
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Well... what if I stack 15 QuartzPro64 boards?
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Assuming they cost $350, that gives 40 A76 cores and 160 Gigs memory, right?
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Surely the quartzpro's can be powered with a 750w power supply.
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