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<Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> Hmm is this latest image?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> May want to try a slightly older image if so and see if same issue
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> TheBug
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<[TheBug]> Tony
<Armbian-Discord> <c​0rnelius> TheTony would have been way better.
<stipa> traitors
<tonymac32> who
<stipa> who isn't
<stipa> o/
<tonymac32> interesting question
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<BigShip> Hello! I ran into an issue after running nand-install-flash and choosing to boot from and install the filesystem on emmc. The system gets stuck on "Booting using the fdt blob" whether I use an SD card or emmc. I've even flashed other images. I've also tried two different power supplies. This is on a rockpro64. Any thoughts?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> Bigship I replied to you above there
<Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> Look up in buffer about 9pm est
<Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> It may be that if you are trying to run latest you should try a version back to see if this is a bug in the latest or a persistent issue
<lanefu> okay state of PBP is pretty bad
<lanefu> i had to pull my emmc out....
<lanefu> and i had to go back to an image from like 11.21
<lanefu> before it'd freaking boot
<BigShip> @TheBug oh sorry the bridge message confused me. I thought someone was mentioning you.
<Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> No problem I figured was something like that
<BigShip> I had been using an image I built, which is working on 3 other of the same board. I did download the older Debian image as well but same error
<Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> The bridge is a little confusing
<archetech> tryin to be all things to all boards=fail
<BigShip> lanefu not the pinebook pro, the rockpro64
<lanefu> BigShip: yeah wasn't talking to you
<BigShip> Ah okay
<BigShip> Either way, I'm worried that the install script did something to the SPI. Any idea if it messes with the SPI at all?
<lanefu> archetech: no just too much got fucked with on rockchip when the right people didn't have they're eye on things
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<archetech> sh*t happens too yes
<archetech> c0rnhead where are you
<[TheBug]> BigShip: can you boot from sdcard and test what access to the emmc is like, as in when you boot from sdcard is the emmc accessible? if not it would first be prudent to check dtb maybe some kernel update overwrote some setting, if it is then maybe do a file system check, past that if you are trying to to just do an install to emmc and you can access it from sdcard you can just 'dd' the image
<[TheBug]> over to the emmc and boot it fresh
<BigShip> It won't boot from fresh images on the SD card or from the emmc. I tried them together and separately. Same error regardless of device or image
<archetech> +1 ^
<[TheBug]> usually when I have setup either ROckPi 4c or Rockpro64 I have just used the emmc to sdcard adapter and written it that way, but I have also booted from sdcard and dd image to emmc without issue for rockpro64 so that should be an option.
<BigShip> It also won't let me interrupt boot by hitting a key so I can't get any shell on the machine
<[TheBug]> hm.
<[TheBug]> BigShip: if that is the case then...
<ArmbianHelper> ^ ROCKPro64 - PINE64
<[TheBug]> these boards have an spi flash on them that does the initial boot
<[TheBug]> it is possible it is having some issue
<[TheBug]> if you follow that doc you should be able to disable it temp to see if this helps you boot
<[TheBug]> if it does you would need to reflash the spi
<BigShip> Okay, that's what I was worried about. But good to have a better idea of the issue. I'll probably need to switch over to their channels then. I couldn't get the jumped pins to work.
<[TheBug]> another thing to do is if you have a usb to ttl adapter
<[TheBug]> I would hook it u p to the serial uart
<[TheBug]> and see what output is like there
<[TheBug]> if there is some fault or if it lets you hit a button
<BigShip> [TheBug]++ thank you, that was extremely helpful. Always nice knowing you're that much closer to a solution
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<tonymac32> it's ok Lanefu, daddy's back and complaining about everything
<archetech> hahahaha
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<archetech_n2> Host: blfs-n2 Kernel: 5.17.4-1-ARCH arch: aarch64 bits: 64
<archetech_n2> Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.24.5 Distro: Linux From Scratch r11.0-202-systemd
<archetech_n2> Machine:
<archetech_n2> Type: ARM System: Hardkernel ODROID-N2Plus
<archetech_n2> not easy havin the best rig
<archetech_n2> amongst goofs
<tonymac32> shit. I rolled my eyes so hard I pulled a muscle
<tonymac32> :D
* tonymac32 cracks open a beer
<archetech_n2> cheers
<archetech_n2> cmon lets have a inxi pissin contest
<archetech_n2> live fr #armbian it's sat night!
<tonymac32> RIP Sandisk ultra, 2x failed verification
<tonymac32> now where is my literal bag of microSD cards
<archetech_n2> just say no to sdcards
<archetech_n2> Local Storage: total: 111.79 GiB used: 11.05 GiB (9.9%)
<archetech_n2> ID-1: /dev/sda type: USB model: SATA SSD size: 111.79 GiB
<archetech_n2> ya baby
<tonymac32> well, I would, but I only have 1 board with a reasonably configured SPI flash
<tonymac32> everything else requires bootstrap via SD
<tonymac32> well, I found a spare i7-6800K, but no SD cards
<ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/png] (304.3KiB)
* BigShip gulps
<BigShip> look at that tasty rig. You hacking the planet with that thing?
<lanefu> Burning coal for the greater good
<[TheBug]> 'spare'
<tonymac32> when did we start talking about electric cars? :D
<archetech_n2> lanefu: thats not arm ya twig
<lanefu> It's always something
<ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/png] (24.4KiB)
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> nice storage number ya got there Lanefui
<lanefu> Yeah it's raid10 rust with nvme write back cache it's been pretty great
<archetech_n2> ok here's the new armbian biz plan ...
<archetech_n2> I gor sits on a beach and cornelius does 5 boards with deb/ubu I all odroid with Arch and LFS/Gentoo
<archetech_n2> anything else go away
<archetech_n2> tony and lane feed me and c0rn
<lanefu> archetech_n2: here's my real daily driver arm boards (which I accidentally rebooted like 15 min ago lol). https://armbian.lane-fu.com/linx/s/f1wiupoh.png
<ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/png] (367.9KiB)
<archetech_n2> dont say what board
<lanefu> Cornelius just likes to tell us what he can do without armbian like you do
<archetech_n2> correct he is a wise guy
<archetech_n2> we know how to make this better but say la vi
<archetech_n2> narrow it down and kick some azz
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> excuse! My mvebu64 ain't bad!
<lanefu> Yeah maybe one day early retirement will be my build tool too
<archetech_n2> and set fire to the armbian builder forget that
<archetech_n2> and all the assoc git with it
<lanefu> You're going easy on me tonight
<archetech_n2> just riffing here ;p
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<lanefu> Lol
<lanefu> Not giving you the setups you deserve
<stipa> archetech_n2: you're clearly the best
<archetech_n2> at what
<stipa> at havin the best rig
<stipa> is that kernel you're running even out?
<archetech_n2> theres a .5
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<archetech_n2> blame lane he said get the best N2+
<archetech_n2> was good advice
<lanefu> And you've been happy ever since
<archetech_n2> yes arm sucks but it sucks less with the best lol
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<archetech> any I5 tiger lake or better just smokes arm's best sbc's for not much more $
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<archetech> any they sip power too
<archetech> about 15 watts
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<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> Hmm, the odroids M1 and C4 are both quad-A55? The first is the RK3568 and the latter the S905X3. Both seem to be 4-5W at full load, but the C4 is $55 and the M1 is $70. The N2+ is 170% power (electrical and computing), but $83 (or $90 with more memory). So... for a cluster, it seems like the C4 might be best, but for a single board, the N2+ is really awesome. And of course, the N2+ has the better graphics.
<archetech> it comes down to N2 for desktop use no rival Nas plaenty of others
<archetech> the rk3588 could do both well ...depends on whos sbc ya get
<archetech> I bet on the rock5b early shall see
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> yeah, but it sounds like all the rk3588 boards are at least $150
<archetech> early adopter prices yes
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> Well, I guess ameridroid is showing $100 (with the coupon) for a 4 gb memory rock5 b
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> so, not bad.
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> Is one of amlogic or rockchip better supported... or rather, does one of them support linux better?
<archetech> linux will take some time but gpu is upported with panfrost now
<archetech> s
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> But... rock5 b here doesn't have a heat sink?
<archetech> oh shut up
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> I guess the QUARTZ64 should be comparable to the M1
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> But the M1 already has a heat sink, the Quartz only has holes.
<archetech> 356x is junk dont bother
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> So a stack of C4's
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> Call the cluster "serious putty"
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<lanefu> 356x is not junk. Has great IO and
<lanefu> Manofthesea what kind of workloads in cluster
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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Aha. Tinkerboard2 has a reset button header. 2-pin. What would I need to control that via GPIO from something without relays like a caveman. @cats lol your board fits nicely here
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Gikfun OPTOCOUPLER DIP-4 PC817C PC817 for Arduino DIY (Pack of 20pcs) AE1143 : Industrial & Scientific
<stipa> lanefu: you would need a tactile switch
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> I don't want a tactile switch that's the point
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<stipa> if you want to reset it with some other IO pin them a transistor or mosfet
<stipa> maybe a pull up or pull down resistor too
<stipa> NPN transistor or N channel mosfet
<stipa> as a switch
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<ArmbianHelper> ^ pulldown - How to use a transistor to pull a pin low? - Electrical Engineering Stack Exchange
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<stipa> where it says "Arduino" you can use whatever IO pin you want
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<stipa> and "RESET" would be a reset on a board you want to reset
<stipa> High signal on "Arduino" input should give you Low on RESET output of that circuit
<stipa> that would be like pulling the reset low on your SBC
<stipa> both SBCs should sahre the same ground
<stipa> or "-" of the PSU
<stipa> or the same PSU
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Ground thing is why I wanted opto isolated
<ArmbianHelper> ^ opto isolator - Optocoupler design - why does this circuit work? - Electrical Engineering Stack Exchange
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<stipa> i never tried it
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Lol I'm gonna stick with my barbaric ways by just doing relays on the power input instead
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Don't have time to think this hard lol
<stipa> you need like two 10k resistor and an optocoupler
<stipa> and that's it
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Like the optocoupler I linked earlier?
<stipa> yeah, you can find that stuff in pretty much any SMPS supply
<stipa> at least one
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> SMPS supply?
<stipa> Switching Mode Power Supply
<stipa> i bet you have faulty ones around
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Yeah probably
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Think I'm gonna use a 2ch Shelly for now since I have one ready
<stipa> whatever rows your boat
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Hehe
<lanefu> Damn it
<lanefu> Shelly 1ch can do 12vdc. But the Shelly 2
<lanefu> Shelly 2.5 says 24vdc
<stipa> that's ok
<stipa> you need like maybe 3.3V few miliamps switch
<stipa> to short the reset pin to ground
<stipa> that's max the shellies can go you're referring to
<stipa> they'll survive few milliamps short across them
<stipa> maybe even less than that
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<stipa> you don't need much energy to switch CMOS stuff
<stipa> a fart will do
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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Electronics is a stupid hobby LOL
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<stipa> it is, it's mostly conceptual
<stipa> not much contact with reality
<stipa> i don't have good focus so i'm very slow with it
<stipa> last time i tried to figure out how SRAM bus works
<stipa> i have a feeling it's simple and logical but it takes some time to take it in
<stipa> like 12bit adress space SRAM
<stipa> retro computers
<stipa> i got stuck around three days on this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQkGs7yOqzg
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> My hatred for Dupont and break out boards is huge https://armbian.lane-fu.com/linx/s/sktj7ebu.jpg
<ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/jpeg] (2.7MiB)
<stipa> yeah, those tend to break easily where wires connect to connectors
<stipa> i have them around but i try to avoid them
<stipa> one period i made my own
<stipa> but that's not super either
<stipa> the wire has to be thicker one
<stipa> i had these around https://www.ebay.com/itm/311415718130?hash=item4881d2c0f2:g:XQEAAOSwRnpc50B3 so i solder mine and put heat shrink tubing over them
<ArmbianHelper> ^ 500Pcs Dupont Jumper Wire Cable Housing Female Pin Connector Terminal 2.54mm NEW | eBay
<stipa> the wire has to be thicker one in order to be rigid
<stipa> anything thin just brakes non stop
<stipa> thicker wire is also more expensive
<stipa> honestly i don't know the AWG but you know, a thicker wire works
<stipa> there are fancier wires with silicon rubber around, i would like to get hands on those but they're also expensive
<stipa> they don't melt when you solder them, it's tidier and as you imagine i suppose
<stipa> regular plastic insulated wires just melt
<stipa> and it looks like shit in the end
<lanefu> yeah I just don't have to duplicate what I did here https://github.com/lanefu/sbc-gpio-pcf857x
<ArmbianHelper> ^ GitHub - lanefu/sbc-gpio-pcf857x: GPIO scripts and examples for linux, RPI alternatives using pcf8574 IO Expander
<lanefu> so dupont for now
<stipa> oh, is see, those are power on off switches and now you want to add resets?
<stipa> you could also replace relays with logic level mosfets
<stipa> or no, those could heat too much
<lanefu> just doing raw power here
<lanefu> i had a different set of boards
<lanefu> where htey have a reset jumper
<lanefu> and i was thinking just managing that would be addequate for my needs
<lanefu> but didn't end up being any simpler to solve
<lanefu> there's def mosfets that could handle it
<stipa> yeah, but that's like if the board sucks some power that'll be heat on the mosfets so you need a chunky heatsink wich wouldn't be cheap
<lanefu> define cheap
<stipa> i imagine a psu/DC-DC converter for every board would be a better solution sice those handle heat better when board starts to suck
<lanefu> cents, dollars, tens of dollars
<stipa> it would be just too much heat
<stipa> it's not economical
<stipa> DC-DC converters would but that's like few bucks per board
<lanefu> and how would i turn power off and on on the dc-dc converter
<stipa> maybe you could find ones that switch on/off on signal
<stipa> like high or low logic signal
<stipa> but i guess relays are cheaper
<stipa> only thing you would get rid of is relay noise
<lanefu> yeah more of a physical footprint and giant mess of wires i'm trying to solve
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Sequent Microsystems 8 MOSFETS 8-Layer Stackable HAT for Raspberry Pi - RobotShop
<stipa> it' always be a mess if you're deving
<lanefu> so i think there's mostfets that can meet my needs without aggressive cooling
<lanefu> anything thats for another day
<lanefu> spinning up image for this board now and gonna get shit hooked up so i can get to work
<stipa> yeah, you could try a mosfet
<stipa> if it heats to much for your needs then you need other stuff
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<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> That sounds suspiciously like not getting crap just because it's nerd cool...
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> K8s homelab
<stipa> at one point it just a never ending pile of projects that are not cool but have to be done
<stipa> cheaply
<stipa> making something into reality is a bunch of resources
<stipa> dreaming about it is cheap
<stipa> many stuff on YT is just some peeps selling gear in shiny labs
<stipa> the real stuff has like 0 views
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<movray> hi, i have a libre computer lafrite (amlogic s805x) i can not get i2c and uart working on the gpio header. Does anyone knows a good documentation how i can get it working?
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<ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/jpeg] (2.1MiB)
<Armbian-Discord> <c​ats> I ordered the wrong resistors
<Armbian-Discord> <c​ats> I ordered 1W which are SUPER OVERKILL and MASSIVE
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/3773
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Disable broken wireless driver in config by igorpecovnik · Pull Request #3773 · armbian/build · GitHub
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<Macer> well then. let me go ahead and update this pinebook pro heh
<Macer> xfce seems like it does the manjaro clunkinesss
<Macer> i should have stuck with cin