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<ArmbianHelper>
^ Dual/Quad SATA HAT for Raspberry PI 4 or Raspberry Pi 3/3B+ – ALLNET China
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> i would bet its something with powering, how do you power this and where do you attach it?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Gonster> I have the hat on top of a RasPi 8 gb, power to RasPi with standard PS, Power to Hat through 4.16 amp 12v PS.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> hard to say what it is. certainly nothing related with armbian. we never supported things you attach to boards
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> board could be completely faulty. i have seen some similar addon from radxa - is this the one? - having many troubles
<Armbian-Discord>
<Gonster> Silly thing was SPOSED to just appear as attached drives!
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> ha, that is theory 😉
<Armbian-Discord>
<Gonster> CCC add on Cheap Chinese Crap
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> in reality, this doesn't just work. hh design we are talking about is as cheap as possible
<Armbian-Discord>
<Gonster> 🥲
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> rpi is also in this range 😉
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> i think addon where connection is pci based and not usb has better option for succes
<Armbian-Discord>
<Gonster> Thanks for the input! I'll try to get it to work as just a NAS and see if that works. Thanks again.😋
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> fyi my NAS is most expensive pcs of equipment 😉
<Armbian-Discord>
<Gonster> Cheap can be SO expensive!
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> yeah, but this doesn't even work. next thing is (data) reliability
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> personally i try to avoid this kind of fancy looking mini nas variants. but not all are crap ... just need to look beter
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> here sata usb bridge chip quality maters, when its usb based
<Armbian-Discord>
<Gonster> looking for NAS housing/appliance I can stick 4TB Red drives into.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> helios64?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> 4tb red drives, if not PRO, are again bummer. most certainly SMR technology, so no RAID usage
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> rpi + some hat
<Armbian-Discord>
<Gonster> 😂 😫 💩
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> no, I'm saying the helios 64 would be the NAS to put the drives in
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> don't kill the messenger 🙂
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> helios64 is a class better, yeah, but dunno if sw support got matured
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> no maintainer
<Armbian-Discord>
<Gonster> I think the universe might be telling me something
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> there is a lot of crap on the market and a lot of evangelists of that crap as well 😦
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> also most 2.5" drives are not suitable for NAS since they are SMR
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> except SSDs
<[TheBug]>
It really depends on the number of drives you want to use. If you want only 2 drives, the Odroid HC4 seems to be reasonably stable and decent eneough as long as you have a 5v fan or passive air flow near it if you intend it to be on 24/7. If you want more drives, your in the case where you should just get an applicable case + atx power supply, something like Cooler Master N400, or if you
<[TheBug]>
have big $$ something from silverstone... more of it will come down to adequate cooling and power than anything with more drives. I have several setups where I use Cooler Master N400 + either RockPi 4c + m.2 to pcie adapter or RockPro64 with 8 or 10 port SATA x1 card + 3TB or 4TB Hitachi Enterprise drives with EVGA 500W power supplies about 80-100Watt full load with 10 drives.
<[TheBug]>
You are not gonna get GB/sec platform out of it, but it will do 200-300M/sec sequential and you can max out the gigabit nic no issue, and even push about 200M/sec out of USB 3.0 r8165b 2.5Gbit adapter with mtu 3000 and some luck with the right drivers
<[TheBug]>
the case I mention comes with fans, however I have often added a few 120mm fans more in the cases as well to keep cooling right
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<[TheBug]>
lol
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> BugNASPro ™
<[TheBug]>
indeed.
<archetech>
lol yeah ya try and market that bad boy
<[TheBug]>
maybe one day I will afford a 3d printer and I will be able to just print such a thing
<[TheBug]>
funny part is
<[TheBug]>
to the right value minded person
<archetech>
well ya gave me a good laugh today
<[TheBug]>
I bet they would buy it pretty quickly
<[TheBug]>
cvery low cost per TB and low power consumption
<[TheBug]>
more trustworthy than one of those 4 bay usb docks lol
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> at least it works better, faster and more reliably then those rpi hats
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> exactly 🙂
<[TheBug]>
funny that, I did finally get a penta hat and test it, works actually not bad on RockPi 4c, in fact, in a different time I may have opted to use it in stead, however, I wanted something which could support 5 drives.
<[TheBug]>
That said, I tried it on Rock 3a so far with no luck
<[TheBug]>
I will have to check that another time.. its one of my to dos
<[TheBug]>
maybe one day it will have a reliable mainline kernel lol
<archetech>
right its atrocious looking but if it is fast and cool who cares how it looks ive used beat up old cases for stuff many times
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> rock3a needs some time to mature
<ArmbianHelper>
^ Error retrieving title. Check the log for more details.
<[TheBug]>
those arn't bad
<[TheBug]>
abut
<[TheBug]>
if you are going to use it 24/7 and under load
<[TheBug]>
expect to have to do more to cool that controller chip
<[TheBug]>
will need at least passive air flow
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> yeah, especially in full raid mode
<[TheBug]>
if you don't cool it adequately you will not enjoy your time
<[TheBug]>
its like those mini-pcie cards I have for EBin
<[TheBug]>
they have tiny heatsink by default
<[TheBug]>
and if you don't have some air on them and load em up
<[TheBug]>
it becomes very unhappy
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> yep, cooling is essential
<[TheBug]>
also if you have thermal pad on it
<[TheBug]>
I would consider replacing it with some thermal glue or thermal paste if you can find a way to keep it stuck
<[TheBug]>
you will have better cooling performance
<[TheBug]>
those cheap pads they use are not awesome
<archetech>
bugs next case will be a radxa zero2 in an empty cigarette box
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<abws>
cat /proc/buddyinfo misses the Normal zone here (only DMA zone is shown) on armbian 5.15.25-rockchip64 64 bit and Debian 5.10.0-13-armmp 32bit. Could you confirm ?
<abws>
on 32 bit arm I get DMA and HighMem but not Normal
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<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> why are you running a 64bit kernel on arm32 /
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> is a armhf board or a arm64 ?
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> sorry little loss
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<nekomancer[m]>
<Armbian-Discord> "<ManoftheSea> helios64?" <- bad end
<nekomancer[m]>
[TheBug]: who's generates this output?
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<ArmbianHelper>
^ Lightshot — screenshot tool for Mac & Win
<abws>
RichN: I am running a 64 bit kernel on an aarch64 board and a 32 bit kernel on an armhf board (there are two board both exhibiting the missing Normal zone in /proc/buddyinfo
<abws>
sorry it took me so long to notice your reply, getting used to Armbian-Discord
<abws>
in fact I believe this is an upstream issue, per I can reproduce on the armh board which is Debian vanilla (armmp kernel). But if one has the normal zone in /proc/buddyinfo this could help pinpoint the first bad version
<abws>
to after his kernel release
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<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> never delt with buddyifno whats it used for what app
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> you not using armbian kernel we dont supportit
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> we dont support non armbian builds/imnstalls
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> you have to go to debian arm64 for support
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> this is only for armbian