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<lanefu>
stipa: yeah we need to add that to the defaults... we've held off in the past.....which kernel are you using
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<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> Break out the shotgns its Wabbit hunting day
<stipa>
lanefu: yeah, it' says "NEW" in the building menu, 5.15.34-sunxi64
<ArmbianHelper>
^ all: enable the CONFIG_F2FS_FS_COMPRESSION option by josacar · Pull Request #3689 · armbian/build · GitHub
<stipa>
i haven't
<stipa>
looks like a feature request
<stipa>
that has to be tested beforehand
<stipa>
lanefu: what about outdated drivers?
<stipa>
what's the acronym for that?
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<lanefu>
I don't know what your talking about
<lanefu>
Deprecated?
<lanefu>
More like feature flag enablement in this context
<stipa>
like, when there's a newer driver but in the newest image it's the old one and it's going like that for ever
<stipa>
when the link to the github is to an old driver but there is newer
<stipa>
in build scripts or smthn
<stipa>
what's the process of correcting something like that?
<stipa>
would that be a bug report?
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<lanefu>
So for drivers we either using what's in the kernel or sometimes will patch in and out-of-tree driver if nothing exists or works
<lanefu>
What driver are you talking about
<stipa>
88xabu
<stipa>
88x2bu *
<lanefu>
I don't know what that is
<stipa>
wifi usb
<lanefu>
The wifi drivers is a seperate pain
<lanefu>
Don't open a bug report for that being outdated. Only a PR with fixes
<stipa>
i have to compile every time i change a kernel and dkms doesn't work for some reason even if it somehow exist and does something
<lanefu>
But it's very brittle and I think Igor is going to catch them up again soon
<stipa>
i've heard of PR
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> dkms works in certain combinations of user land and kernel, and not in others. its complicated problem which has some dependant problems to be solved first
<Armbian-Discord>
<clever> some package managers like nix have a much better design and eliminate the entire need for dkms
<stipa>
yeah it sux, upon every kernel update it reverts to the outdated driver in the kernel and dkms doesn't detect it
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> lanefu: can you add swap (or more memory) to lca runners. OOM when packing
<Armbian-Discord>
<clever> basically, nixos has no state, and your config must describe how to build the entire system from scratch
<Armbian-Discord>
<clever> and when upgrading the kernel, it cant omit some random driver, because the only way you get the driver in the first place, is by defining how to build a whole new system, that always had the driver
<Armbian-Discord>
<clever> so when you upgrade, it follows the same config, and it keeps the driver
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> we have to deal with debian legacy here 😦 and another problem here is cross compiling
<Armbian-Discord>
<clever> nix does also have cross compiling built in, but there has been some sharp corners on its 32bit arm support lately
<Armbian-Discord>
<clever> made worse by no CI checking 32bit arm
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<stipa>
dkms isn't my choice, it's the drivers team choice
<ArmbianHelper>
^ Dynamic Kernel Module Support is a program/framework that enables generating Linux kernel modules whose sources generally reside outside the kernel source tree. The concept is to have DKMS modules automatically rebuilt when a new kernel is installed.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> there are many reasons why recompilation doesn't work
<stipa>
it's probably something simple
<stipa>
extra line
<stipa>
removal
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<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Yep I'll try doing a swap file for once. How big you think?