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<Jmabsd> https://forums.lenovo.com/download/286114 Just curious does Linux work on a Qualcomm Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 laptop like ThinkPad X13s?
<ArmbianHelper> ^ [application/octet-stream]
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> do you not know how to google
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> its all over the web about the kernel support
<Jmabsd> RichN: wait sorry, no i don't see it, tell?
<Jmabsd> i read somewhere "it will take forever to reverse engineer. Qualcomm and Microsoft are closed and incestuous, they share nothing"
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> google linux qualcomm snapdragon 8xc
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> there is lots to read
<Jmabsd> RichN: sorry i get absolutely no meaninful results
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Let’s Boot the mainline Linux Kernel on Qualcomm devices - Linaro
<Jmabsd> RichN: are you aware if the 8xc will work out of the box with Linux??
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> its suppost to
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> bbiab food
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> snow comming
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<Jmabsd> RichN: So I'm here
<Jmabsd> RichN: is there any success use report anywhere. by the way, do Qualcomm Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 SBC:s exist yet?
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> dont know currently we dont support snapdraggon
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> and have not had hands on
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> I am on my phone ...
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> I am out doing things I had to get done laundry and food . first small 5 min snow came throu
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> now more on the way
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<Jmabsd> RichN: On what continent are you =)
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> US
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> Tennassee
<Jmabsd> RichN: interesting. Europe I hear same. snowy.
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<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> ahh ok
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> its snowing 5 min stops then 30 min ltr 5 min snow
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> then it stops
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> lol
<Jmabsd> RichN: Ah right so, what about Qualcomm support on Linux. I am surprised it's not discussed more
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<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> well qualcom is not very open in the US chips are used mainly in phones with android
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> hense android uses a linux kernel so yes the chip should run linux but we would need to see more of 1 to get it supported
<[TheBug]> I am not suprised, have you seen how much the dev kits for any Qualcom chip cost? Then Qualcom doesn't do any mainline support as far as I can tell, so best case you have some shitty backported 4.x legacy Android kernel they hacked to make kinda work in Linux
<[TheBug]> your better off just to load Android on it and then run one of those apps that installs Linux on top
<[TheBug]> or root the phone etc
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<Jmabsd> [TheBug]: Tragic!
<Jmabsd> that is so far from serving the customer base's best interests
<Jmabsd> btw, did you see any report that Apple M1 has thunderbolt support, I am not clear
<Jmabsd> The Arm ecosystem is a proper jungle
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<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> ok back top work on desktops bbl
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> having to fix issues
<Jmabsd> RichN: are you there? re Snapdragon support on Linux that would be interesting. Will the 8cx work???
<Jmabsd> on Linux
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<Jmabsd> RichN,IgorPec: I emailed this author https://www.linaro.org/blog/let-s-boot-the-mainline-linux-kernel-on-qualcomm-devices/ and asked him if Snapdragon has Linux support lol
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Let’s Boot the mainline Linux Kernel on Qualcomm devices - Linaro
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<archetech> Desktop: GNOME 42.0
<archetech> <archetech> Distro: Linux From Scratch 11.0-113-systemd
<archetech> <archetech> Type: ARM System: Hardkernel ODROID-N2Plus
<archetech> Mesa 22.1.0-devel
<Jmabsd> https://semiaccurate.com/2021/12/01/qualcomm-8cx-gen-3-too-dangerous-to-deploy/ <- wow. article summarizes Qualcomm as "Run like hell" (don't use).
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Qualcomm 8cx Gen 3: Too dangerous to deploy - SemiAccurate
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<steev> i am (un?)fortunately an american, and a qualcomm is my daily driver in terms of linux arm64. though yes, windows is 64bit on the arm64 devices
<steev> considering they said they have no idea, when a *very* simply check would figure it out... i dunno how much stock i'd give their garbage article
<Jmabsd> steev: what do you mean
<Jmabsd> steev: there are many ARM64 makers, you have plenty of choice
<steev> and they all use binary blobs as well, which seems to be something that the article cares about
<steev> and while i have plenty of choice, the qualcom sd850 that i have runs circles around everything that isn't apple silicon
<steev> qualcomm sdm850
<steev> which is what, 3 generations behind the 8cx
<Jmabsd> lovely.
<Jmabsd> steev: Did you try the HoneyComb/ClearFog LX2? (And in a while, Rockchip RK3588)
<Jmabsd> anyhow indeed for many things not so much computing power is needed
<steev> i'll definitely try the rk3588, but no, did not use honeycomb or clearfog, mostly because of not wanting to fork out 1300 for a usable system
<steev> Final time: 9 minutes and 50 seconds
<steev> Final time: 17 minutes and 49 seconds
<steev> guess which one is the qualcomm