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<Armbian-Discord> <Q​ueen Fiona> It was the Orange Pi PC, if you're still curious.
<c0rnelius> I've yet to see that overheat.
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<Armbian-Discord> <Q​ueen Fiona> I think I was just nervous about the high temps, but it did seem to have issues with performance dropping over time. Probably not a huge issue now that I have a newer board, but now I'll have to find something for the old one to do!
<Armbian-Discord> <Q​ueen Fiona> Ah well.
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<c0rnelius> I would actually like to see it. I've removed cpu regulation from the M1, but haven't pulled it off the PC.
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Any idea what mhz CPU was running at? If using armbian you could set min and max
<c0rnelius> if the patching is in order you can set a min and max regardless of the os.
<c0rnelius> armbian or other linux thingie
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<Armbian-Discord> <Q​ueen Fiona> Yeah, it can set min/max. It seemed to work better when I set the 1.3v to a lower clock speed, so maybe it was a voltage thing?
<Armbian-Discord> <Q​ueen Fiona> I don't have hard evidence of poor performance, either, so it could be entirely psychosomatic.
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> LOL.
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Maybe the world grew faster
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<Armbian-Discord> <G​IDDY> hello, does an armbian glossary exist? something that defines a shared vocabulary between interested contributors and consumers ?
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<stipa> G​IDDY it does, DIY
<stipa> &
<stipa> "GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY"
<stipa> check out https://docs.armbian.com/
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Armbian Documentation
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> lol
<Armbian-Discord> <G​IDDY> sure, thank you @stipa it's ok if you do not know the answer, i will read all of the docs
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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> @GIDDY we've been steadily chipping away at documentation and process, but the truth is Armbian is a little rough around the edges comparable to projects with this much popularity.
<Armbian-Discord> <G​IDDY> No worries, while talking to @IgorPec and other contributors, I think it would be super good to come up with a glossary to have shared vocabulary, like the stuff that is in netbox. It can seem silly, but in my professional area, onboarding engineers to products is much faster when people understand acronyms, technologies, even something silly like "what tools" we have available ... so far I seen, mkdocs, hdgedoc,
<Armbian-Discord> netbox, github actions.. etc.. etc..
<Armbian-Discord> <G​IDDY> let me find an example, and you decide if it helps you or not, there is a caveat... some language and terms may get outdated.. so in my company, I always encourage interns/graduates/new joiners to carry the torch.
<stipa> it seems like you're selling something, there's no need to insult here
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<attah> So.. fi.mirror.armbian.de seems down and i'm getting errors in updating/upgrading so i want to switch mirrors
<attah> But i can't find where it is configured
<attah> It isn't showing up in sources.list(.d) nor Synaptic
<stipa> i changed that a while ago
<attah> hmm? as in it should have been fixed in whatever pointed me there?
<stipa> what error do you get?
<attah> basically can't connect to that server
<stipa> something is fishy with the mirrors, i switched to the main one
<stipa> to which all others sync
<stipa> that one is alive
<attah> hmm... now it didn't complain, so it must have auto-switched with some update
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Regional Armbian Apt mirrors - Announcements - armbian forum
<stipa> put in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/armbian.list
<stipa> deb http://beta.armbian.com bullseye main bullseye-utils bullseye-desktop
<ArmbianHelper> ^ armbian storage
<attah> hmm, that is now on the main one
<stipa> yeah, that one works
<stipa> mirrors are borked
<attah> strange though... since i didn't do anything to change it
<attah> aaand it is tryong fi... again
<attah> what on earth is going on?
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<stipa> attah: you'll have to do some editing
<attah> stipa: i'd love to... but where?
<stipa> also after the "deb http://beta.armbian.com" just copy what's on the mirror that doesn't work in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/armbian.list
<ArmbianHelper> ^ armbian storage
<stipa> attah: 'nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/armbian.list'
<attah> that is already (only) apt.armbian.com
<stipa> put http://beta.armbian.com instead of it
<ArmbianHelper> ^ armbian storage
<stipa> or copy the line and edit it
<stipa> and put in front of the old one #
<stipa> so that it's ignored
<stipa> just in case you mess something up
<attah> this much i know to handle
<attah> i was just thinking i'd actually be able to swap out the borked mirror, but i guess that's not how it works
<stipa> i guess all are borked
<stipa> expect the main one
<attah> this is what i'm not getting
<attah> i'd have thought apt... was the main one and expected to switch out fi... for it
<IgorPec> attah: we added this mirror yesterday and it looks like its ok
<attah> the fi... thing?
<IgorPec> yes
<IgorPec> https is not working ... strange
<IgorPec> @werner
<attah> how would i go about de-selecting it? aka, why does switching do beta... work?
<IgorPec> i moved it out for now
<IgorPec> we have re-director in place for apt.armbian.com and redirect.armbian.com which select best mirror for you automatically
<IgorPec> this was strange mailfunction, i didn't check ssl variant upon adding, just normal
<IgorPec> you should not get this mirror anymore. when its fixed, its moved back in
<attah> Good, i'll switch back to apt when i have updated then
<attah> now if i could just figure out how to get gnome-term as default
<IgorPec> we are working on to improve this. also dead mirrors are removed auto, but this was half dead ;)
<IgorPec> gnome-term ? where
<attah> as my default desktop terminal emulator
<attah> neitehr update-alternatives or purging terminator helped
<attah> and apparently i need to figure out how to get Cinnamon to display my applications separately in the taskbar too
<IgorPec> sorry, here i don't know much. i use terminator
<IgorPec> and don't look elsewhere ;)
<attah> I like Cinnamon because it is just out of the way...
<IgorPec> i also like it, but not an expert of tweaking it
<stipa> i'm for some reason using terminator on my workstation but it's a bit dull in colors
<attah> But i find taskbar icons without instances and terminator as default a bit too opinionated :/
<IgorPec> who needs icon in terminal ? :)
<IgorPec> you need to understand few key shortucts and that't about it
<lanefu> oh we could add the mirror selector feature in armbian-config for beta.armbian.com now too!
<stipa> yeah, some people have fancy terminals
<attah> I like my instances in separate windows thank you very much
<IgorPec> i also have more windows
<lanefu> attah: yeah i do agree terminator as a default is oddly opinionated
<attah> So why is the default config of cinnamon instance-hostile?
<lanefu> but see #armbian-desktop and join in the fun
<lanefu> attah: why is a bad question
<attah> oh?
<lanefu> yeah its more of how or what. why implies there's some grand objective here..and the reality is there's one person doing 90% of the desktop work
<lanefu> and he's just doing his best to make an experience that works
<lanefu> so _instance-hostile_ is not really the intent.. it's just what was configured
<attah> That is fair... but i can't help but assuming it is a choice when cinnamon on any other distro is the normal way
<attah> (especially including regular ubuntu)
<lanefu> yeah chat about it with RichN in armbian-desktop, would you be open to helpin g make some changes in a PR
<IgorPec> yes, ideas for changes are welcome
<lanefu> for context armbian is really a headless/cli-FIRST in its design
<IgorPec> desktops are not very far away from its vanilla variants
<lanefu> the desktop stuff is really a nice-to-have and is storngly community driven
<attah> let's see what i can figure out
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<Werner> IgorPec, found a possible issue
<Werner> https on ipv4 was not accessible
<Werner> attah, can you retry?
<IgorPec> works for me
<Werner> yeah found you in access list
<IgorPec> enabling back
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<stipa> seems like mirrors are working again
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<attah> Werner: sorry for being slow; yes it works now
<Werner> no worries
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<nekomancer[m]> `[ warn ] * applying aufs5-standalone.patch [ failed ]`
<nekomancer[m]> kernel mvebu-edge
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<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> yes, its everywhere. if it doesn't break, ignore
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> fix is comming by author in a couple of days
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* stipa Nezha RISC-V Linux SBC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=613yEF6SrNo
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* stipa NVidia is making a DESKTOP CPU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PYqvAHlZrw
<nekomancer[m]> why I have no `stack` file in /proc/<pid>/ directories? how to enable it?
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> look at debian or ubuntu and see but I dont think we have by default
<c0rnelius> I would hope you have PID dirs.
* nekomancer[m] found CONFIG_STACKTRACE
* nekomancer[m] configuration option.
<nekomancer[m]> ubuntu have it
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<Armbian-Discord> <M​angix> Should https://github.com/systemd/zram-generator be backported to debian 11?
<ArmbianHelper> ^ GitHub - systemd/zram-generator: Systemd unit generator for zram devices
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<Armbian-Discord> <M​angix> oh also, anyone know about zswap with armbian-zram-config? I have it enabled but it seems only zram0 gets a backing device
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<Armbian-Discord> <M​angix> hmmm armbian-zram-config creates zram0, 1, and 2 but only 0 is used
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