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<archetech>
gave the n2 cinnamon image a try it installed but it hangs for 8 min s at fs resize
<archetech>
on 1st boot now on second too
<archetech>
it did resize but ya got a sysd service problem
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<Jmabsd>
steev: haha. 9 minutes. what was the job?
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<steev>
building an image for a raspberrypi zero 2 w and compressing it
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<archetech>
apt-key add armbian.key else no updates
<archetech>
disable fs-resize service seems ok now
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<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> N1 promise is 85% of the performance at 30% of the energy consumption. its value is much more meaningful when you have a rack full of servers.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Well right but this isn't that
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> honestly if you were running your $4K workstation at 100% utililization 24/7 it would probably redeem itself compared to an x86 build in a moderate amount of time
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> but yeah no of course not.. dolar to dollar for the mortal
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> its not a winning purchase
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Hmmm, this feels like a Porsche 924 to me. No power, not even Porsche engine, enthusiast approved
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> 4k is literally the beginning of tolerable pricing
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> :)
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> But you are right on the pricing, it's starting to get into nearly reasonable territory
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> The stumbling block now is performance per dollar, at $4k I'm expecting "oh holy $h!#"
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> and i'm gonna say
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> that the honeycomb is more porsche 924 with teh audio engine
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Hahahha
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> and the altra neoverse is more like a 944 where its at least half a 928 block
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> okay
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> lol
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> s/audio/audi/
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I mean at $1800 to build the honeycomb up (sans gfx card at this point 😢), is it that much worse a purchase?
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> no honeycomb isnt a good value either
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> lol
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> unless you want the netowkr IO
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> its a great buy for a low power router that can do ungodly amounts of traffic
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> thats where i thought the phytium was a good enough value relative to honeycomb
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> still a luxury purchase, but within a more moderate domain
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Right right
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> speaking of which
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I mean, you didn't see me buying a honeycomb for those prices either
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> tries not to forget about sleeping phytium
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> My point was IMHO this one isn't an improvement perf/$
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> uh yeah I know. you and i tried to self-justify a honeycomb for like 2 years
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Hahaha yeah
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> which is the honeycomb still priced teh same
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Given shortages I don't know
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> i'd _probably pay phytium money for a honeycomb
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> i mean riht now no
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Right.
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> cuz i gotta stop buying shot
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> shit
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Hahahaha
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> and trying to think about the 10 Rock5 reservations i bought 😛
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> *trying not to think
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> lane sharpens his axe in case of hardware bugs
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> @IgorPec time out chair 🪑😆
<IgorPec>
what
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Just link to the contributing page, random people on vendor discords thinking support should be better don't care about costs 😉
<IgorPec>
well, they were asking loud about 3rd party investores
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Yeah, I'd say "Send donations here" 😃😃
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> hehe, that was meant "between the lines" 😉
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<ArmbianHelper>
^ sbc-bench/Results.md at master · ThomasKaiser/sbc-bench · GitHub
<lanefu>
Numbers
<Jmabsd>
lanefU: wow, that is a great reference the last one
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Usually great technical wisdom near anything touched by TK
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> And I'm over here trying to figure out how this helps me answer "which of these boards can run suricata in IPS mode at gigabit speeds for about $50"
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> (Obviously, the answer is "no.")
<Jmabsd>
lanefu: so cool. what more did he write/publish
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Ha just Google him
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Or look at his other repos
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<Jmabsd>
lanefu: googling his name gives many with same name. on github repo sure i see some discussion
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<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> could I ask for help, while you gurus are around? How do I find out the blocker for getting espressoBIN back on the list of supported hardware? Documentation lists me as the maintainer. Heisath and I got working builds (for current, at least). Is there a Jira thread I need to pull? Is it that Igor's eBINv5 still crashes, and I need to fix his? Will the state not change until the next release meeting?
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Yeah uhhh
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Submit a PR renaming board config file to .conf and update targets.conf and we'll go from there
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> See standard support section
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> So I saved a password, then tried to use it, and got myself locked out. Sorry, to-be-maintainer, you failed the third test, and you are cast out to outer darkness.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> you need me to reset the password?
<ArmbianHelper>
^ build/espressobin.csc at master · armbian/build · GitHub
<ArmbianHelper>
^ build/targets.conf at master · armbian/build · GitHub
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> will do
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Right after I finish looking at a bunch of solidrun boards.
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> And ultimately not buying them.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Heisath> They look delicious
<Armbian-Discord>
<Heisath> I have both clearfog models and found good uses for them.
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Well, I'm looking at the GT 8k. It's weird to have a single 10 Gbps port in and only... 3.5 out? But... if you add a couple of 802.11ax cards, I suppose you can saturate that uplink.
<darsie>
hi yang
<Armbian-Discord>
<Heisath> Are you sure the SFP+ cage is wired with 10Gbps to the CPU?
<Jmabsd>
Anyone who wants to sell a HoneyComb or ClearFog second hand let me know ;)
<ArmbianHelper>
^ MACCHIATObin A8040 | Marvell Based Mini ITX Networking Board
<yang>
hm
<Jmabsd>
Heisath: Ah oh yeah right, I think I've seen this one. It is much less "power punch" than LX2. LX2 is great.
<Jmabsd>
If anyone has a second hand Pinebook Pro ISO or LX2 let me know :)
<Jmabsd>
apologies ot and (to sell; -> offtopic)
<yang>
Jmabsd: Are you looking for pinebook pro laptop ?
<yang>
or what does ISO mean ?
<Jmabsd>
yang: yes, ISO. ISO means ISO keyboard, it has one more key than the American keyboard variant. this is very hard to find apologies all for spma.
<yang>
you can probably remap your keyboard
<yang>
if you have one version, you can modify buttons
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> No, I'm not sure.
<ArmbianHelper>
^ Original Tastatur Keyboard MEDION PineBook Pro UK MB2778001UKUK A 27 | eBay
<yang>
you could maybe buy a different keyboard physical layout, but would need to ask if it's compatible with one more key in function
<yang>
or did they make 2 different pinebook pro models with different key physical layouts
<Jmabsd>
yang: nono, a physical button is missing. exactly.
<yang>
ok
<Jmabsd>
You found the module, cool!
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<darsie>
The bug report data collection said: [ 14.890210] systemd-journald[549]: File /var/log/journal/34c3bad24c744598bb54ba9769c3229f/system.journal corrupted or uncleanly shut down, renaming and replacing.
<darsie>
Could there be a lengthy fsck during reboot?
<Jmabsd>
If anyone has an extra Pinebook Pro or LX2 to sell, or may know anyone who has, let me know via PM :-)
<darsie>
It reboots timely if I power cycle it.
<darsie>
How long should I wait for reboot? It's a 64 GB SD-card. I installed a few bits and firefox.
<darsie>
2 GB armbian image
<darsie>
15 min?
<darsie>
Would an LED shine during fsck?
<darsie>
It's all dark.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Hmm, I don't see the option to remove the "maintainer needed" from the board page.
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> What is the sixth column: (yes|no|advertise)?
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> I assume "adv" are the ones above the fold in the device page?
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> maintainer is fixed
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> adv = which two will be exposed as main download.