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<Armbian-Discord>
<Masterphi> I got an OrangePi 3 LTS and tried using the OrangePi 3 image on it. The ethernet doesn't seem to be working. Is this expected, as the build isn't for that specific board, or maybe the board I have is defective? Anyone with insight on it?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> It is expected since there are no drivers in the kernel for this phy. Someone is working on it to add them ....
<Armbian-Discord>
<Masterphi> Is there a repo I can follow the process?
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> Everything ended in the main armbian build framework repo. There will be a pull request adding a new patch once done. That's usual modus operandi
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<schwarz_Kat>
Masterphi: OrangePi 3 LTS has a different phy, a YT8531C ethernet Chip. A fairly rare beast at the moment.
<schwarz_Kat>
I have the same chip on an orangepi-r1-plus-lts.
<schwarz_Kat>
I'm working on the phy drivers, but am having difficulty finding time.
<schwarz_Kat>
The patches are not ready for a pull request yet.
<schwarz_Kat>
I have a rough but working build of the driver on current 5.10y, but not on edge 15.15y yet.
<schwarz_Kat>
Your board will also probably have a different device tree to the OrangePi 3.
<schwarz_Kat>
oops.. make that 5.15.
<schwarz_Kat>
We are not so far advanced yet.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<NicoD> When is the release date? Is it still "Release Date: 2022-02-26 "? Should I make a video about changes?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> yes, Sunday if everything goes right.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> i am still out of office until tomorrow ...
<archetech>
needa Phytium d2k vid
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> send one to Nico 😉
<archetech>
nico can guide tomy/lane in doing a bench report
<archetech>
tony*
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> haha
<Armbian-Discord>
<NicoD> I'd love to review the Phytium. But doing it from a distance isn't the right way. It isn't a server. It can do a lot more than that. I've already payed for the Rock5. Otherwise I would have thought about buying the Phytium. It is perfect for me.
<Armbian-Discord>
<NicoD> Now working on RadxaZero review. But I'll see to make a video about the new Armbian release first. Is there a changelog somewhere?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> in the works ... i'll send you link on pm
<Armbian-Discord>
<NicoD> ok, thank you!
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> keep in mind its not finished, things will be changed in the next few days.
<Armbian-Discord>
<NicoD> Ok, I think I'll make the video Monday then.
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> Very, very curious about the Phytium as well, I really should have ordered, wonder what @lanefu @Tonymac32 have been up to. Does amdgpu firmware work? Is Jammy solid? Did you try Impish? 3D? VDEC? VENC? non-amdgpu stuff on the PCIe? USB performance? 😄
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> I am deep in the bowels of armbian-next, closer but not ready for merge. Much gains, but also harder to rebase. Will try to cleanup a working state and rebase onto master soon. Meanwhile let me know if I can help with release in any way.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> mid march would be fastest from my side
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> to catch up with merge. for release? rpi is operational?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> upgrade wise
<archetech>
nico its a box server or not ssh in and run your tests
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> lol, some 3-4 pr's about that. last I knew, kernel upgrades work now with new images, but dtbs are not updated (ref: long stuff about dtb/image packages split / paths / postinst shit)
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> ok
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> best state I got before russian discussian is: dtbs would be updated if they are installed before the kernel package. but that got reverted.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> if they are installed before?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> oh. strange. well, we can't do big changes in so little time
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> Yeah, if they are put in the right place, at the right time (during kernel-image postinst, which calls flash-kernel) then they are updated
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> but I guess "the right place" is not a valid phrase in Russian.... 😉
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> and there's no such thing as "right time" since they're 2 separate packages
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> so either release with that note about dtb's, or delay rpi release after we (maybe?) unify dtb and image packages.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> are not all dtb files already in the image packages? as they are for others?
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> PR's were on dtb package, not image package
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> then there's a separate PR from Oleg trying to unify
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> yes, but that's general change
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> yep. so the current is the opposite of what you said... (dtb files are in dtb package, not image)
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> which we should start doing with a release. we need one pr to lock all kernels to fixed version
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> I got the locking in place for armbian-next
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> yeah that's doing it manually for a single family.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> in current situation not much other ways
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> yeah, i've done work for doing that externally now in armbian-next. something that says "for 22.02 and mvebu use 5.15.24 when you would use 5.15.y"
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> so next release should go smoother in that sense, and we could make updates to 2+ previous releases
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> for now, tagging in the RC branch seems appropriate
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> everyone goes smother 😉 we are learning, the process is getting better. I think the biggest problem is testing
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> still
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> yep. I've to get an assistant for testing
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> literally just a body I can throw boards and .img's at and produces serial log and screenshots
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> we are trying to make this with help of board maintainers and automation
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> both is WIP 😉
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<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> unrelated question, news of Myy? I'm touching his code, since $? is not a thing anymore
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> he usually respond on forum PM within days
<Armbian-Discord>
<rpardini> ha, will forum PM him with PR link later then 😉 thnx
<Armbian-Discord>
<NicoD> @lanefu Can I please🥺 Or if you'd be willing to make your own review video about it. I'd love to put it on my channel...
<stipa>
NicoD about what?
<Armbian-Discord>
<NicoD> The Phytian D2000.
<archetech>
think ill get a mac mini instead of a rock5
<archetech>
open box $500 for 8GB model shipped
<archetech>
and that blows away the Phytium for same $
<stipa>
NicoD dang
<stipa>
archetech: the older i am the more i want a machine that just do what i need and no more than that
<archetech>
yeah complete vs cobbled but i still build boxes
<stipa>
if there is a need for more power i'll get more power
<stipa>
archetech: can you elaborate on "build boxes", i can't get the picture of what that could be
<archetech>
raw parts
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> wow expensive
<archetech>
M1 $500 is expensive?
<archetech>
came out at $700 yr ago
<archetech>
im open to ideas for a better arm box for the $
<archetech>
these are factory refurbs and open box ebay deals
<archetech>
so like new or new
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> the m1
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> sorry I did not see
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> mine was more i got the 16g/512
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> but its been worth it
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> I also switched from hdmi to dp and its even better
<archetech>
my only hesitation is I an build a i5-12600 system for $500 that blows away the M1 ;)
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> but has higher power requirements and more heat
<archetech>
right not a factor at all
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> and what os ?
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> windows or linux
<archetech>
both
<archetech>
got a win lic
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> I am very happy with my m1
<archetech>
ya they are well liked
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> its working great and performance has had no issues other then I think they could have put a better fan
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> I have to clean it out once every 6 months
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> with the space they could hvae gone with a huge heatsync and no fam
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> fan and it would have run fine
<archetech>
M1 pro mini will be out next month is my guess
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<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> I will keep what I have no need to updte
<archetech>
ill stick to my big sur hackntosh I have
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> What no montery for you
<Armbian-Discord>
<k.s.bedford.jr> BigSur is whats stable right now
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<lanefu>
@Nicod haha yeah i was already thinking about you.. i havent unboxed it yet.. been a busy week, but will def get you access to it
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<schwarz_Kat>
I'm attempting to get a new board running on rockchip64 linux-5.15y.
<schwarz_Kat>
I built from a branch in my git that was up to date with Armbian build master and has commits with my changes.
<schwarz_Kat>
The build works, until I do an apt upgrade, then it will no longer boot.
<schwarz_Kat>
The error: Failed to load '/boot/dtb/rockchip/rk3328-orangepi-r1-plus-lts.dtb', so it seems to have dropped the new dtb from uBoot.
<schwarz_Kat>
initramfs is updated and linux-dtb-edge-rockchip64
<schwarz_Kat>
I guess that this is expected behaviour and it will resolve if the patches end up in armbian build? Am I correct?
<TRS-80>
Hi schwarz_Kat
<TRS-80>
What is the board you are trying to get running?
<c0rnelius>
... `rk3328-orangepi-r1-plus-lts`
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<Armbian-Discord>
<NicoD> Whaaaattttt??? You haven't even unboxed it. We all are jealous of you having it. You even not use it 🙂 Thank you, and enjoy the unboxing.
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<schwarz_Kat>
Thanks c0rnelius. Yes it is an Orangepi R1 plus LTS.
<c0rnelius>
My guess would be you need to blacklist the kernel or take Armbian out of the sources.list until ur patches making it in.
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<TRS-80>
c0rnelius: Correct me if I am wrong, but since he said 'new board' for all I know he could be trying to get some random TV box working which is just similar to that hardware, using that dtb as a base to work from?
<TRS-80>
Anyway that's what I was thinking.
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<schwarz_Kat>
TRS-80: The Orangepi R1 plus LTS board is working fine and the DTB tree comes directly from the OEM build and works.
<schwarz_Kat>
I'm a newb with Armbian Build, so I want to be sure that the apt upgrade error was expected and not something wrong with my patches.
<schwarz_Kat>
The upgrade pulled content from the Armbian repository.
<schwarz_Kat>
From my perspective, it was expected....
<schwarz_Kat>
The upgrade included initramfs and linux-dtb-edge-rockchip64.
<c0rnelius>
TRS-80: I wasn't throwing any shade. And a R`#` would suggest it doesn't have an HDMI port. Dual Ethernet ports.
<TRS-80>
Oh you mean there is some logic to these proliferation of model numbers? As I had yet to discover it. :)
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<c0rnelius>
yep
<TRS-80>
is that just for OPi or in general?
<TRS-80>
I only recently started looking into OPi stuff, I feel like I'm very late to the game there.
<c0rnelius>
Seems like an in general thing. Although I don't know why they use R.
<TRS-80>
hmm, interdasting
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<c0rnelius>
I have the H2+ model of the board someone sent me. Its also called R1. Must be some logic there we are missing.
<schwarz_Kat>
R means router, I think.
<c0rnelius>
see there you go and that makes sense too. :)
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<c0rnelius>
I don't usually run Armbian on my boards. But you should be able to blacklist packages or at the very list #remove what you need to from the sources.list file(s) It probs updated because the latest kernel release number was above urs.
<c0rnelius>
TRS-80: You should have gotten into the Pi game. They are selling like `hot cakes` on Ebay right now.
<TRS-80>
Pi game?
<c0rnelius>
Raspberry
<TRS-80>
aah
<c0rnelius>
Some jack wagon just bought my 4B for like a $145
<c0rnelius>
I'm digging my others out to list
<TRS-80>
FWIW, I watched a video from A Rozenzweig (sp?) recently, stating that F/LOSS in ARM graphics stack is no longer unusual, it's the norm? She also stated that apparently Broadcom actually hired someone to write a F/LOSS driver, which I was shocked to hear. And that was some years ago already.
<TRS-80>
Oh I am not in this to make money. But I'm glad for you. :)
<TRS-80>
point being, I dunno, maybe my stance toward Broadcom is easing up a bit
<TRS-80>
I should maybe post that to forums in fact, I bet many people around Armbian would be interested in it
<c0rnelius>
Interesting. Nor am I, but I'm not gonna complain on cleaning out my inventory with a profit margin in my favor.
<TRS-80>
yeah right, I mean if you are not using them
<c0rnelius>
exactly
<TRS-80>
I also don't collect boards like a lot of you guys do, I am not into development and tinkering, I am more of a user
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<c0rnelius>
I think cnx just did an article on this as well.
<TRS-80>
So I research extensively and tend to buy small number of boards for actual uses like self hosting things and running my own infrastructure
<c0rnelius>
I do the same, but find over time something else comes out and I replace whatever hardware I started the with, with something else.
<c0rnelius>
the project* with
<TRS-80>
I still have a cubietruck running an XMPP server and other things :)
<c0rnelius>
Nice.
<c0rnelius>
I keep finding I am buying more and more Amlogic garbage.
<TRS-80>
for TV usage or general computing?
<c0rnelius>
Both.
<c0rnelius>
SoC runs so coool...
<c0rnelius>
Also has its fair share of problems. But its pretty impressive what it can do.
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<c0rnelius>
I thinks I'm gonna save my pennies for when the radxa zero2 becomes available.
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<TRS-80>
I have an RPi 3, might even be a 2, I think it is a B, don't even remember now. It was the first SBC I think I ever bought. Maybe after a Beaglebone. I am still using it (the RPi) on the living room TV to run OSMC. It works well enough that I never felt the need to replace it...
<TRS-80>
If I ever did though, I thought I would maybe with something Amlogic, but supported in Armbian. As that seems the way to go for TV. Although I do also have a nice HiFiBerry AMP2 which works awesome. Probably big part of the reason the RPi is still there, honestly.
<c0rnelius>
Yeap if not broken don't fix it. I replaced my Le Potato's with a Radxa Zero 2GB and Odroid C4 not because I needed to but just because. But I've also started to clean house on other boards so it worked out to do so.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I have 3 pi 3's and a 2 (first revision)
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> The 3's were unusable at the time, so the 2 kept the media center job and I stopped buying
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 😆
<c0rnelius>
Time to put those bitches up for sell. brcm is in decline and demand all at the same time. Plus WWIII.
<c0rnelius>
Its like crack. These people are losing it.