<zedtwitz>
i'm learning nmigen for the first time now
<zedtwitz>
thank you for sharing it!
<whitequark>
happy to help!
<zedtwitz>
a few years ago i remember fun conversations with gatecat on the eevb fora :)
<zedtwitz>
accounts long since gone, but very cool to see everyone move forward in time
<zedtwitz>
finally came to the realization that i'm too lazy to write good verilog
<whitequark>
life's too short for that
<zedtwitz>
exactly
<zedtwitz>
i think the last time i did fpga things was when gnarlygrey's upduino was the latest hotness
<zedtwitz>
followed for me by a few years of being bamboozled by vivado
<zedtwitz>
just to clarify the readme, nmigen can target the xilinx 7-series, right?
<whitequark>
yes
<zedtwitz>
ty
<zedtwitz>
offtopic: do you know if any of your works have been to space?
<whitequark>
i don't specifically know
<zedtwitz>
it probably has, then
<whitequark>
i would be unsurprised
<whitequark>
it also depends on how you define "my work"
<zedtwitz>
well, i define it as widely as is comprehensible
<whitequark>
i have a single commit in bluez. that was used in android for a while, i'm sure that traveled around more than a bit
<zedtwitz>
there must have been lots of androids in space
<zedtwitz>
i sent a little piece of art to space once; it was oddly a very unremarkable experience
<whitequark>
things like that tend to be unremarkable
<zedtwitz>
not a lot of ceremony; just "drop your sticker in this bucket, we'll launch it to the ISS and put it in this other bucket in a few months"
<whitequark>
the gravity they hold is, really, just how you weigh them
<whitequark>
i don't know who was the first person to use nMigen to make an ASIC
<whitequark>
i just know it's been done
<zedtwitz>
who will be the first to connect neurons to logic generated by nMigen?
<whitequark>
no idea
<whitequark>
it'll probably be some auxiliary piece of hardware, widely spread because of its utility
<whitequark>
i mean, i won't be surprised if someone uses nMigen specifically for neurophysiology research, but the other scenario is just going to ambiently happen at one point even if no one cares directly
<zedtwitz>
i guess if any kind of HID uses it then that counts
<zedtwitz>
did the math (tm) and the energy to put a little slip of paper / sticker in orbit is only the equivalent of a couple french fries
<whitequark>
oh, that was me then, back when i synthesized the first blinky
<zedtwitz>
solved!
<zedtwitz>
optoelectronic gateware
<zedtwitz>
er that's not it
<zedtwitz>
so this reminds me of vhdl
<zedtwitz>
the __init__() and elaborate() distinction, i guess
<zedtwitz>
entity and architecture
<zedtwitz>
probably not the same things it seems
<zedtwitz>
good morning!
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<zedtwitz>
does the n stand for new?
<whitequark>
yeah
<whitequark>
at one point it was supposed to be a successor to Migen. that didn't work out, and we'll change the name to something else, soon
<zedtwitz>
oh. i was already confused by the version of nmigen on m-labs repo, which wasn't updated since january of last year
<zedtwitz>
do you know when it'll be changed
<whitequark>
when i prepare everything needed for it
<zedtwitz>
domain names and everything i guess. that's a big project in itself
<zedtwitz>
did gatecat still need a particular pcie board? where do i have this memory
<gatecat>
huh, not sure
<zedtwitz>
hi!
<zedtwitz>
it looks like the trellis board is built
<zedtwitz>
maybe that was all
<zedtwitz>
did you get the ultrascale you were looking for
<zedtwitz>
totally forgot that nvidia bought xilinx
<zedtwitz>
er amd
<whitequark>
i thought i'm in a fever dream for a while, there
<zedtwitz>
haha gotcha
<zedtwitz>
got myself too
<zedtwitz>
xilinx acquiring silexica while itself getting acquired is the same vibe as a fish saying "hold on sharkie baby, let me gobble up this tadpole before you eat me"
<zedtwitz>
imo all these companies should be forced to publicdomain all their patents & trade secrets & IP every ten years
<zedtwitz>
think of the amazing things they've locked away in a vault for 2045 or whatever
<zedtwitz>
but maybe it'd be better if their stuff just becomes obsolete
<zedtwitz>
</offtopic>
<zedtwitz>
oh i forgot
<zedtwitz>
once again offtopic but wtf happened to tinyfpga
<zedtwitz>
the twitter acc is gone? did intel decide they didn't want an employee of theirs working on oss for another vendor's product
<zedtwitz>
i wonder how many casualties like this happened during the founding of gcc etc
<zedtwitz>
i guess the project reached its conclusion
<zedtwitz>
good night. thanks all :)
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<FL4SHK>
How can I use Xilinx primitives from nMigen? I'm guessing it's some use of `Instance`.