whitequark changed the topic of #nmigen to: nMigen hardware description language · code https://github.com/nmigen · logs https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/nmigen
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<_whitenotifier-1> [YoWASP/nextpnr] whitequark pushed 1 commit to develop [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/Jgcwi
<_whitenotifier-1> [YoWASP/nextpnr] whitequark 19795ad - Update dependencies.
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<mwbrown> For some reason, I'm getting Quartus 30-day eval messages when running nMigen builds, but not if I launch Quartus normally and run a regular project (I only installed Lite)... has anyone seen this before?
<mwbrown> I never activated any sort of Prime eval to my knowledge
<lofty> mwbrown: I never encountered that while researching for the Quartus backend of nMigen
<lofty> What does `quartus_map` point to on the command line?
<mwbrown> Just my normal install `D:\Quartus\18.1\quartus\bin64\quartus_map.exe`
<mwbrown> It's printing this message out for every tool (map/pgm/etc) `Info (292036): Thank you for using the Quartus Prime software 30-day evaluation. You have 2 days remaining (until Oct 03, 2021) to use the Quartus Prime software with compilation and simulation support.`
<mwbrown> It's just the weirdest thing that it only does this on the command line and not in the IDE itself. Even the quartus_pgm tool shows that it's the Lite version
<lofty> That's weird...
<mwbrown> I guess I'll find out in two days what happens when it runs out, haha
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<Sarayan> if it does like it did for me, nothing. You just stop having a message
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<mwbrown> Yeah, I would think that whatever eval it's doing just reverts back to the Lite edition and simply disables stuff like the higher end chip support and modelsim stuff
<lofty> Ha ha ha
<lofty> Quartus is probably doing absolutely nothing
<lofty> Doing something reasonable like that requires *effort* and why would you bother with that.
<lofty> I'm technically project lead for Project Mistral, the Cyclone V reverse engineering project - Sarayan does most of the Quartus RE, and it's the laziest program I think I've ever seen
<lofty> Debugging symbols? Ship it!
<xiretza[m]> I guess that can be good or bad :p
<xiretza[m]> the laziness I mean
<lofty> Debugging printfs? Enabled with a line in the .qsf
<lofty> Dumping the contents of the binary databases as plain text? In the commercial release build, no less.
<xiretza[m]> on the other hand, never attribute to laziness that which can be reasonably explained by someone on the inside trying to help hackers out :D
<lofty> Well I mean, if I ever meet Greg Baekler I need to inform them they need to buy milk on the way home
<lofty> (there's a snarky printf to that effect whenever synthesis finds a LUT6 that uses carry-in as an input term)
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