<uvos__>
sicelo: unfotionatly talk.maemo.org rarely loads for me
<uvos__>
whats needed?
<buZz>
> When I install the latest N900 image from the N900 Leste wikipage from the latest image link I still get when I launch Leste the welcome window which states there is a major update which I can find behind a link. But the date in the stating text points to an earlier date. Which is the latest? From the wikipage link or the welcome window?
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<uvos__>
idk if salutem is the right place to put this information anyhow
<uvos__>
(i know its there rn)
<uvos__>
really i envisoned salutem to display some mostly unchangeing stuff like tipps and how to get started
<uvos__>
not "news"
<uvos__>
so i would just remove this link from salutem
<uvos__>
Wizzup: ^^^?
<Wizzup>
we are working on a proper user guide anyway, so might replace it with that too
<Wizzup>
html version of it or so
<uvos__>
Wizzup: yeah that would be great
<uvos__>
would be easy to make salutem display a hiarcy of html pages
<uvos__>
that constitue the manual
<buZz>
uvos__: imho just put 'read the wiki for the latest versions' or something
<uvos__>
or maybe we want salutem to display just news and have another application for the manual
<uvos__>
dunno
<uvos__>
needs policy desision
<buZz>
meh, even with commtest disabled in sphone.ini, not selecting 'ofono' makes 'sms new' not work
<uvos__>
ok
<buZz>
it seems 'delivery report' in ofono-scripts doesnt work btw
<buZz>
while adding those characters on a sms i type myself in sphone's interface, does work for delivery report
<uvos__>
interesting
<uvos__>
yeah i know delivery reports dont work in ofono
<Wizzup>
in sphone, or ofonod?
<uvos__>
Wizzup: ofono
<uvos__>
like if you use the dbus interface to reqest a sms with dlr
<uvos__>
you wont get any
<Wizzup>
hm, wonder if it works in tp-ring
<Wizzup>
I seem to remember it did work, but idk
<uvos__>
sphone also just dosent support delivery reports
<uvos__>
but thats a different issue
<Wizzup>
mhm
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<buZz>
uvos__: it kinda does if you just put the characters in
<buZz>
just "*0# " at the start of the sms
<buZz>
oh, its provider specific :(
<buZz>
at tmobile its "! "
<uvos__>
buZz: yeah you have to parse that from the sim
<uvos__>
maybe ofono failes to do this
<uvos__>
idk
<buZz>
ah could be
<uvos__>
it dosent work thats for sure
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<sicelo>
delivery report comes in on which ofono signal?
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<maemish_>
First time here I think. Second time using irc. Anyone present?
<gliffy>
Yes
<maemish_>
Have you been using Leste-Devel?
<gliffy>
Not actively. Did try it while trying to debug an issue with the n900
<maemish_>
I tried to boot it today but can't get to hildon. Boot scripts go through but then just a black screen. Is there something special I should do to get to hildon?
<gliffy>
No it should just boot up. Hold on I will try it on my device.
<maemish_>
The latest. I tested the stable but because the latest image was much slower than some earlier image I had tried I thought to give the devel a try. I have Maemo 5 CSSU testing with Kernel-power 53 and u-boot.
<maemish_>
It also takes ages before it starts the boot scripts.
<maemish_>
Compared to stable.
<gliffy>
This slowness was the exact thing I was trying to debug. I narrowed it down to a change between builds 20220123 and 20220206. Maemo 5 setup doesn't affect leste.
<gliffy>
freemangordon Did you have the same issue with this?
<gliffy>
You mentioned you could try this on your device when you could :)
<Wizzup>
hi, semi present
<maemish_>
Other notices: QTbrowser was not working. Load a newspaper site but just froze and no way to scroll the page. Same with Surf2.
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<maemish_>
This with stable
<maemish_>
I see message "closed connection". Is this still online?
<gliffy>
Here I still am!
<gliffy>
I think you are looking at a quit message
<maemish_>
That someone quit his connection? Ok.
<gliffy>
Yes
<gliffy>
I have the same problem with the dev build
<maemish_>
Bummer.
<maemish_>
Got synaptic working on stable.
<Wizzup>
qt web browser on beowulf is a lot slower, but yeah, any website that uses a lot of cpu/ram cannot work
<maemish_>
Could it work to install stable, change repos to devel and to do upgrade?
<gliffy>
Yes
<sicelo>
maemish_: one of the things you should do is run `/etc/expandcard.sh`
<maemish_>
Have done it every time.
<maemish_>
It is now on welcome message on Leste
<sicelo>
ok. i see a message about rootfs being too full in your log
<maemish_>
I saw it too.
<maemish_>
Stable launches fine.
<sicelo>
mmm, no udc found ...i guess that's old image? this shouldn't be a problem nowadays, i hope
<sicelo>
that's bad about udc ... although it won't cause slowness
<maemish_>
Yes that is stable but because it was so slow I thought maybe devel would have been more updated.
<sicelo>
mmm, udc is broken in stable? :-O
<sicelo>
what kernel version was that?
<Wizzup>
no, beowulf we have not updated much at all in the last 2-3 months
<Wizzup>
we're just focussing on chimaera
<Wizzup>
and we just have elogind blocking us now
<sicelo>
i'm reading maemish_'s report
<sicelo>
maemish_: "Application manager is a bit burden to use cause scrolling with stylus doesn't work that well. The same happens with different settings menus"
<sicelo>
why not scroll with thumb? :-)
<maemish_>
I think the same goes with thumb but just said stylus cause I use it.
<maemish_>
Like the menu does not want to stop or it is hard to select keyboard layout for instance.
<maemish_>
Not impossible though.
<maemish_>
Have to ask: Maemo 5 has screen calibration. Is it not needed on Leste?
<sicelo>
i haven't needed it. do you find things are off-center for you?
<maemish_>
No, just thought if it would have affect on scrolling with stylus, how it reacts.
<sicelo>
no
<maemish_>
But so because I am no dev should I wait then chimaera? If many things may have been solved on that?
<sicelo>
submitting issues is a way to contribute
<maemish_>
Was the devel-repo info somewhere, if I install stable which launches and could try what upgrade witj devel repo does?
<sicelo>
maybe sstay on stable until chimaera arrives, then see how things go there
<maemish_>
But I could try now that I have taken N900 after a year break back on use.
<sicelo>
sure :-)
<maemish_>
Where can I find the devel-repo info? And is it ok to put on application manager or to sources list?
<Wizzup>
xinput_calibrator works fwiw
<maemish_>
Just now came in mind that was it so that devel-repo is in application manager and just needs to be enabled?
<Wizzup>
no, there is no extras-devel
<maemish_>
so no devel-repo to try out?
<Wizzup>
for extras? no
<Wizzup>
unless you mean something else with "devel-repo"