01:02 <mglbg[m]> Not sure if this helps or only stirrs things up but I made an additional keymap in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51 called "custom" and added " setxkbmap -rules evdev -model nokiarx51 -option grp:ctrl_shift_toggle -layout us,custom " to my .bashrc, basically allowing to switch keyboard on pressing ctrl+shift. In case DE is in the same file it might help to do smth similar?

01:05 <mglbg[m]> There is some old forum post on this on the web somewhere explaining this...

05:10 <tmlind> freemangordon: for wds, seems all we would need to do is add another CIEV notifier, seems all we really need to do for voice, network and wds notifiers is to kick the usb qmimodem with some generic notifier

05:13 <tmlind> seems like also drivers/motorolamodem/network-registration.c should kick the usb qmimodem on some CIEV cases, now it only looks at RSSI

05:34 <tmlind> maybe the best solution would be to just kick the usb qmimodem with anything on dlci1..

08:21 <humpelstilzchen[> https://aaplinvestors.net/stats/iphone/nokiamemo/ is on hn

08:36 <sicelo> the statement was correct, but he chose the wrong side of the Atlantic to jump to. anyhow, it's a tired story by now. wonder what brought it back to HN

09:03 <humpelstilzchen[> Its often seen that they open the history books

13:24 <Wizzup> we could maybe do a "the platform is still burning" blog post and submit it to HN ;)

15:23 <buZz> ooo new kernel, new cellulard, new sphone!

15:23 <buZz> exciting!

15:23 <buZz> AND https://github.com/maemo-leste/conversations/issues/7#issuecomment-1236087687

15:23 <buZz> wooo

15:41 <dsc__> currently fixing some rather annoying pagination issues

15:47 <sicelo> buZz: dsc__: shouldn't that be an option? or, how will a user write a multi-line message?

16:39 <buZz> sicelo: oh maybe alt+enter or shift+enter? as 'send' and enter as multi-line

16:39 <buZz> or ctrl+enter

16:40 <buZz> i think its ctrl+enter in some other programs too

17:21 <sicelo> got to take non-hwkbd devices into account too ... almost impossible to press two keys same time on vkb

17:22 <sicelo> anyway, i don't have specific suggestions. was just pointing out something that should possibly be taken into account. in this regard, a specific send button ends up the much easier option usually (hence all the major messengers have it)

19:31 <dsc__> sicelo: sure, we can just follow whatever the popular messaging apps do (i.e: what users will expect) and then for buZz's request add an option @ settings

20:08 <Wizzup> I think just making the buttot not be the enter icon but just 'send' solves all the problems

20:08 <Wizzup> dsc__ sicelo ^

20:08 <Wizzup> currently it is the enter icon which makes you think enter should work

20:11 <dsc__> Ill also change it to display 'Send' instead

20:47 <buZz> Wizzup: but how would you send with only keyboard?

20:56 <Wizzup> click the button

20:56 <Wizzup> like on fremantle

20:57 <Wizzup> or ctrl+enter or something

21:12 <sixwheeledbeast> it always seemed intentional that Enter didn't send the message

21:13 <sixwheeledbeast> enter being newline, separate from the send button, but maybe I misunderstand.

21:17 <sixwheeledbeast> Ctrl+Enter would make more sense as you say similar to email clients.

22:21 <Wizzup> sunshavi: agreed

22:21 <Wizzup> err sixwheeledbeast agreed*