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<norayr> heh, tried all the hid modules available (hiddev , hid-input or hid-core are not available), but with no luck. :/
<norayr> i have updated the kernel, and the system, and i think everything started to be recognized.
<norayr> i just need to create a good xorg.conf now.
<norayr> so yes, it works now.
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<freemangordon> SIOCDELRT: No such process
<freemangordon> /etc/maemo-dhcp.d/50_ipv4_network_setup: 93: kill: invalid signal number or name: SIGHUP
<freemangordon> Wizzup: wasn't that fixed? ^^^
<freemangordon> if one wants to use a specific dns, then she shall use the UI, no?
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: ok, I think more or less everything besides this hardcoded DNS works as it should
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<buZz> freemangordon: oooo omg, the dhcp bug of gprs fixed?
<buZz> can i update and test it? :)
<freemangordon> sure
* buZz checks
<freemangordon> actually, "please do" :)
<buZz> :D
<dreamer> updating leste, good idea for a sunday morning :)
* dreamer grabs test-device. does his ~quarterly update and see if everything still works ^_^
<freemangordon> buZz: one more gprs DNS fix is on the way
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<buZz> omg freemangordon
<buZz> it connects \o/ first try
<buZz> w000000t
<freemangordon> :)
<freemangordon> actually it should auto-connect if set
<freemangordon> the same as in fremantle
<freemangordon> it seems there is some issue with first wlan connection, but that's another story
<buZz> does seem that gprs reception is now max always?
<buZz> unless reception suddenly really is max here
<freemangordon> signal strength was miscalculated
<freemangordon> I fixed the algo
<buZz> i'll keep an eye on it :)
<freemangordon> you can easily verify with 'qmicli --nas-get-signal-strength -d /dev/cdc-wdm0'
<freemangordon> this will give you rssi in dBm
<freemangordon> anything above -74 is excellent, according to what I was able to find over the inet
<freemangordon> if you get values in range of -65 to - 55 or somesuch, then yes, this is 100% signal strenght (5 bars)
<buZz> -47 -48 , it seems
<freemangordon> omg
<freemangordon> are you sitting on top of the cell?
<buZz> i'm googling where the celltower is
<freemangordon> in your basement, it seems :D
<buZz> ~20 houses next to me , there's a tower
<freemangordon> 100m?
<buZz> yeah about
<freemangordon> well, it seems about rigth then, no?
<buZz> i guess? i'll try to find some dead spots on https://antennekaart.nl/kaart/2g and see what reception there is :P
<freemangordon> what I see here is max -70
<freemangordon> and android shows full bars (or whatever the icon there is)
<buZz> i dont wanna reboot to android :P
<freemangordon> we are little more conservative, so we'll show 3 or 4 bars for -70, but not 5
<freemangordon> use foil to wrap it
<buZz> hehe yeah i was thinking about that :P
<freemangordon> no, really, that's how I tested different values here
<buZz> :)
<dreamer> urf, test-device has charge below being able to boot :#
<buZz> dreamer: what do you mean? i dont think there's such a charge
<buZz> what do you see when powering up? nothing?
<dreamer> it gets up until the boot menu
<dreamer> I'll just wait some more :)
<buZz> do you have power connected to it?
<dreamer> yes, obviously
<dreamer> N900 chargers ftw
<buZz> just 1200mA?
<buZz> (official n900 one, it seems)
<buZz> still, should be fine
<dreamer> hmhm
<dreamer> w/e, I'll check this afternoon
<buZz> dreamer: action has 2400mA usb charger for under 3 euro, iirc
<buZz> oh, its a 'mameo' port :D :D
<buZz> > thomasjfox's rockbox modifications (mameo port)
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<dreamer> buZz: yes I have one, and its super noisy remember?
<buZz> noisy? havent experienced that, no
<dreamer> well not the device directly, but the power coming out of it
<buZz> that neither :P
<dreamer> I was powering some light with it and it made the light emit a loud noise
<dreamer> it was not getting clean 5V
<dreamer> they probably omitted some "very expensive" filter caps in there :P
<buZz> didnt i give you a usbdoctor once?
<buZz> to measure
<dreamer> nope, I do have some usb current measurement thingies somewhere
<buZz> ah well, that current cheap action psu charges my d4 and other devices totally fine though , only the eh, data pins seem sometimes weird, but usb condom fixes that
<buZz> freemangordon1: hmmm , opening icd panel without selecting something ; keeps my gprs online, wireguard online, but does pull my jabber offline
<dreamer> I dunno, I'll just try to be patient I guess
<buZz> dreamer: yeah should be bootable in a while anyway with power connected and not booted yet
<buZz> 'worstcase' i usually just connect a li+ charger straight to the battery :P but rarely really needed
<buZz> freemangordon1: also, 'wwan3' stays UP once i switch to wifi , no clue if thats a problem
<buZz> (no ip though)
<freemangordon1> I guess we shall deactivate the context, lemme check
<buZz> freemangordon1: well, i'm not sure that opening the icd panel should do anything about current active connection?
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<buZz> only when selecting a different one or selecting the disconnection
<buZz> imho
<freemangordon> buZz: I am not really sure I understand the issue
<freemangordon> account status is in no way related to connections panel
<buZz> oh , i tap statusbar menu , then 'internet connections'
<buZz> just having that -panel- open closed jabber for me, kept gprs and wireguard active
<freemangordon> I would say this is some coincidence
<buZz> alright :)
<buZz> i'll keep an eye on that aswell
<freemangordon> is it reproducible every time?
<buZz> currently trying something else (building that rockbox repo) i'll retry some more later today
<freemangordon> ok
<buZz> meh, i really feel writing/reading to my microSD gets weirdly slow at times, maybe even hanging
<buZz> but nothing in dmesg about it :(
<freemangordon> buZz: hmm, I see no GPRS iface here after swithing to wlan
<freemangordon> at least ifconfig does not list it
<buZz> in 'ip addr' ?
<freemangordon> wwan3: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN group default qlen 1000
<freemangordon> it is DOWN
<freemangordon> I see no issue with that
<buZz> weird, its UP here, still no issue with it though
<freemangordon> yeah, weird
<freemangordon> but it may increase battery usage if up
<freemangordon> maybe check in icd2 logs
<buZz> ha: https://i.imgur.com/wX2FjgV.png , rockbox still has n8xx and n900 as target :D
* buZz flips a coin over n900 and SDL
<freemangordon> better use SDL, I guess n900 is for 16bpp
<buZz> goddangit > configure didn't find sdl-config, which indicates that you don't have SDL (properly) installed.
<buZz> its for SDL -1- ???
<freemangordon> ugh, I broke it :(
<buZz> sdl1 is broken? aw
<freemangordon> no
<freemangordon> ofono plugin :)
<buZz> oh :P
<freemangordon> hmm, no, it seems somehow icd2 went nuts
<freemangordon> i'll investigate, but laters
<freemangordon> now going on a ride, ttyl
<Wizzup> norayr: ok but where do I download them? (the dicts)
<Wizzup> norayr: since mstardict seems to suggest it can download them
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<buZz> mstardict has some internal download tool, but doesnt work?
<Wizzup> did you try it?
<Wizzup> It doesn't do anything for me
<buZz> also what does 'real people' mean in the preferences?
<freemangordon> Wizzup: it seems there is at least one more pending issue in ofono plugin
<buZz> yeah, it runs , but does nothing
<buZz> also, it has no icon in menu
<Wizzup> freemangordon: right, I saw your messages, do you want me to take a look?
<buZz> just like the OTR application and eh some others
<freemangordon> if you delay pin entry for too long, gprs connection entry never appears in the dialog
<Wizzup> freemangordon: ah, right, for the search
<freemangordon> Wizzup: I think I fixed everything else but ^^^
<freemangordon> if you have time, please have a look
<Wizzup> will test
<Wizzup> and check
<Wizzup> very exciting
<freemangordon> I'll look later on otherwise
<freemangordon> bbl
<Wizzup> we need to look into human cloning
<freemangordon> )
<freemangordon> :)
<buZz> oooo nice Wizzup , is that a maemo application? :D
<buZz> (cloning humans)
<Wizzup> freemangordon: this is great so far
<buZz> yes :D
<Wizzup> I'll do some testing later also to see what happens when signal is lost
<Wizzup> like put it in a fridge
<Wizzup> oh actually no, dns is broken for me
<buZz> this will save me soooo much time, hahaha
<Wizzup> but that could be gconf
<buZz> maybe wipe your gconf iap first?
<Wizzup> right
<buZz> hmmm , -Wa,-mimplicit-thumb
<buZz> Error: unrecognized option -mimplicit-thumb
<buZz> hooo kay
<Wizzup> context?
<Wizzup> rockbox?
<buZz> 10:57:16 < buZz> currently trying something else (building that rockbox repo)
<buZz> yeah
<buZz> oo, might be -mimplicit-it=thumb
<buZz> \o/ yez
<buZz> just messing around Wizzup , noticed rockbox was a n900 mediaplayer randomly
<Wizzup> yes, but it doesn't replace openmediaplayer
<buZz> i assume it doesnt
<buZz> i dont think i ever tried openmediaplayer though
<Wizzup> well it's not done
<buZz> {standard input}:1764: Error: shift by register not allowed in thumb mode -- `rsb r0,r0,r0,lsl r3'
<buZz> arf
<buZz> now it assumes all inline asm is thumb
<buZz> -_-
<buZz> dangit
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: I'll have a look at the issue
<freemangordon> I know what happens, need to ckeck why
<freemangordon> *check
<buZz> hmmf, gprs disappeared from icd
<freemangordon> yeah, this is the issue ^^^
<freemangordon> restart icd
<buZz> ah :P
<freemangordon> I'll fix after lunch
<freemangordon> *lunch
<buZz> <3
* buZz fills a plate for freemangordon
<dreamer> hmm, boot got stuck on "Setting up swapspace version .. no label, UUID= .."
<buZz> dreamer: the swap is a zram, shouldnt get stuck?
<dreamer> well yes I assume it shouldn't :)
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<buZz> did you make a new SD? or what install is this
<dreamer> I didn't do anything but turn it on
<dreamer> install I already had. from couple months ago I guess?
<buZz> so , a very old install?
<buZz> was it working back then? :D
<dreamer> yes. this worked fine the last time I started it
<buZz> how often have you powercycled and got stuck here now? >1 ?
<dreamer> once
<buZz> try a second time? :D you can force-poweroff by holding voldown & power
<buZz> (for 6 seconds?)
<dreamer> yeah trying that
<buZz> imho, it might be doing a fsck there (on /)
<buZz> but not sure
<dreamer> I think it went past this time ..
<buZz> \o/
<dreamer> yeah, hildon is supposedly starting .. :)
<dreamer> oops, no. it rebooted ..
<buZz> reboot how? with 'white led' on below display?
<dreamer> no it just turned off and back to motorola logo
<dreamer> probably empty again ..
<buZz> oh well, just try again :P
<buZz> 'empty' would show white led
<buZz> at least, if maemoleste sees 'batt voltage too low' it will shutdown , with white led -on- during shutdown
<dreamer> well it's booting again
<buZz> :)
<dreamer> now starting hildon and black screen ..
<buZz> dreamer: i think its not so useful to debug a months-old install ;)
<dreamer> ok and _now_ it actually started hildon
<buZz> but just needs enough for apt update etc
<buZz> :)
<dreamer> aaand it restarted by itself again
<buZz> are you sure your battery is connected well?
<dreamer> I guess I'll leave it on the charger for some more hours
<dreamer> the screws couldn't be any tighter ;)
<dreamer> (without not being able to unscrew them again)
<buZz> they shouldnt be very tight, or they will destroy the flexpcb
<dreamer> I mean it can't NOT be attached
<buZz> in /sys/class/power/something you can cat uevent and see batt voltage etc
<dreamer> that assumes that it's booted
<dreamer> I'll just wait until tomorrow and try again
<buZz> :) honestly, i'd just install latest fresh d4 image from the buildrepo
<buZz> i dont think you have any user data on it?
<dreamer> honestly I think the battery just is completely empty
* dreamer not going to bother with this today
<buZz> i have never seen 'random reboot' from a empty battery
<dreamer> likely because it's attached to the power
<dreamer> so it's low enough that the device stops, but then starts again because there is power applied
<norayr> so, kernel people: i updated droid4 kernel, the version is the same, but external devices started to show up in lsusb, and everything worked magically!
<norayr> don't know what was wrong with the previous kernel, it would be great if you know this.
<norayr> Wizzup, freemangordon, uvos.
<norayr> and i am using hildon with lapdock now and my xorg.conf - very cool.
<buZz> updated to what?
<norayr> i updated the kernel, and lsusb started to see more devices.
<buZz> updated to what?
<norayr> version was the same.
<buZz> do you have a diff of the .config of your kernel build vs the stock /proc/config.gz ?
<norayr> unfortunately no... i didn't think it'll help.
<buZz> right, so no clue what you did then
<norayr> but you know write? which changes you did. and the version is the same.
<buZz> i dont think this helps anything :P
<norayr> s/write/right
<norayr> do i have a previous config.gz in /boot kept back by dpkg?
<buZz> likely not
<buZz> i'll hookup some HID device to my d4 and see what dmesg says
<norayr> i'll tell you the version in a minute, but the version did not change, i was wondering why.
<buZz> could you please put your -current- /proc/config.gz (decompressed) on a pastebin?
<norayr> yes
<norayr> in a minute
<buZz> \o
<buZz> i plug in a yubikey, maemo instantly sees a HID device
<buZz> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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<norayr> yes but your kernel is latest stable probably
<norayr> this is current config with which it works.
<norayr> let me see in the apt log if i can see something about version
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<buZz> i run -devel
<buZz> should be exact same kernel
<buZz> afaik
<buZz> dpkg -l | grep kernel
<buZz> eh , grep image
<buZz> 5.18.19-1+2m7.1 on mine
<buZz> and indeed, i do install updates 'all the time'
<norayr> 5.18.19-1+2m7.1
<norayr> hm, am i on devel too then?
<norayr> let me check
<buZz> 13:52:38 < buZz> should be exact same kernel
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<norayr> yes, both repos are there, with devel and without.
<norayr> i'll try to lok into apt log
<buZz> sounds like you broke something on your installation then
<norayr> apt log says linux-image-omap:armhf (5.18.19-1+2m7, 5.18.19-1+2m7.1)
<buZz> as hid is already working without any mods
<norayr> so i updated 5.18.19-1+2m7 to 2m7.1
<norayr> and it fixed everything.
<buZz> oh, you didnt update
<buZz> why not?
<norayr> no?
<norayr> you mean why didn't i update for some long time?
<buZz> yes
<norayr> i don't know.
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<norayr> but do you imagine what could be wrong in that kernel?
<norayr> honestly if i updated it'd save me two sleepless nights.
<buZz> from the lack of things you saved? no
<norayr> but i found two kernel versions, what was, and what it became.
<norayr> isn't it in git?
<buZz> sure, but why bother with that?
<buZz> why do you want to debug what we dont use
<norayr> i am just afraid that it'll be broken one day again.
<norayr> because nobody except me seems to use the lapdock for now.
<buZz> how do you know it wasnt something you broke before?
<buZz> i have a lapdock , worked since ages
<buZz> and i use usb otg for stuff often too
<norayr> okay, that is very good to know, that i am not alone.
<buZz> well, you are in that you were having issues, and not installing updates regularly :P
<buZz> am i mistaking that you arent using hildon either?
<norayr> how could i break it? i only used apt with maemo and devuan repos. i don't build on this device. i build on pinephone or in vm.
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<norayr> no no, with the same config hildon didn't work with that kernel and started working with this kernel.
<norayr> with the same xorg.conf.
<norayr> and lsusb as well.
<norayr> well, hildon worked - graphics worked, but not kbd and mouse.
<norayr> i posted here a picture of hildon working on a lapdock, but i still had problems with mouse and keyboard.
<norayr> after kernel update they started to be recognized.
<buZz> norayr: so , really sounds like your install was broken
<norayr> okay, i don't want to insist, but i don't understand - i just had not recent kernel - is that a definition of broken?
<buZz> you said usb wasnt working
<buZz> 14:05:48 < norayr> well, hildon worked - graphics worked, but not kbd and mouse.
<norayr> yes!
<norayr> that's what i am saying - usb didn't work with that kernel.
<buZz> i havent had 'usb not working' on any updates since my first leste install
<freemangordon> Wizzup: is there any way on d4 to have USB networking stable?
<freemangordon> when battery is charged that is
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<buZz> does anyone know if https://maedevu.maemo.org/leste/ is maybe very old?
<norayr> buzz, okay. let's hope it'll continue to work.
<buZz> norayr: likely, it wasnt broken for me before :P
<freemangordon> buZz: it is not, browse into dirs and you will see
<norayr> i think my reaction would be to see what was the config, and making sure nothing was accidentally removed from the config of the kernel i upgraded from.
<buZz> freemangordon: where could i find the linux-image-omap ?
<norayr> Wizzup, on mstardict, i don't remember if i ever used that 'download' button on fremantle.
<norayr> but i noticed here it doesn't do anything.
<buZz> norayr: sure, you could downgrade the kernel back , and then compare
<norayr> i always used dictionaries i scp from my desktop.
<norayr> buzz oh i can?
<buZz> norayr: just /usr/share/dict files?
<norayr> yes, for me i was scp-ing ~/.stardict/dic to ~/MyDocs/mstardict/
<norayr> and now it works for me as well.
<norayr> but i need to see in the code what does that button do
<buZz> so not /usr/share/dict files?
<buZz> ah MStarDict is loading StarDict DICT files and Wyabdc RealPeople TTS sounds from MyDocs/mstardict/ directory.
<norayr> maybe it calls the default browser, or maemo-browser, that's why it doesn't do anything.
<buZz> default browser is usually qtwebbrowser
<buZz> on leste
<norayr> it's the same just /usr/share files can be installed with apt, and with root, and stardict also looks in to ~/.stardict/dic.
<buZz> (which is quite a sad browser)
<norayr> mstardict looks into ~/MyDocs/mstardict, don't even know if it looks into /usr
<freemangordon> buZz: hmm, maybe you are right, I am not really sure where we host ATM
<buZz> welp, download links are here ; http://www.huzheng.org/stardict/
<buZz> what a mess
<buZz> maybe it'll be good to package up those TTS and dictionaries
<buZz> holy, wtf
<buZz> its 6.4GB of dictionaries O_o
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<buZz> ANNNNd no 'single dictionary' download, -great-
<buZz> annnnnnd the baidu link doesnt work
<norayr> yes, maybe. not even sure the license is ok. i can package dicts i use.
<norayr> but those are mostly armenian related.
<buZz> so, dictionaries cant be downloaded really
<norayr> and i also have many projects where i let's say parse the pdf, create tab separated file from it (or babylon file), then compile with stardict_tabfile or stardict_babylon, and then use.
<norayr> or the other project is i hacked the old windows only dictionary with unknown to be db format, i just parsed the binary file, taken out the the data, created tab separated file, compiled it.
<buZz> ooo they're on sourceforge aswell
<buZz> great
<buZz> thanks 'huzheng'
<buZz> :D
<norayr> and there was 8bit armenian encoding, i converted it to unicode, and during parse i also noticed some errors, like latin 'o' instead of armenian 'o' in a word, because of which that word didn't work back then on windows, but works now across devices.
<buZz> superannoyingly linked by huzheng
<norayr> there are also dictionary dumps from wiktionary.
<norayr> in stardict format.
<buZz> (evidenced by 0 downloads per week)
<norayr> people use google translate nowadays.
<norayr> but i use offline dictionaries.
<buZz> yeah just a bit annoying how html0.1 design this all is :P
<buZz> with about 2000 times his name in them
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* norayr needs to take a look at the sourcecode.
<buZz> downloading from sourceforge is 300KB/s , lol
<buZz> i'll throw em on space.nurdspace.nl/~buzz/somewhere once i'm done
<buZz> -untarred- so you dont need to redownload the full 7GB for just 1 dictionary
* buZz hates huzheng
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: I think most (if not all) of the issues in ofono plugin are fixed
<freemangordon> it only needs some UI integration (roaming and password dialogs)
<freemangordon> I'll do that later on
<Wizzup> cool
<Wizzup> you might run into connui-cellular then
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<buZz> well, SMS notification would be nice too, or missed calls, etc
<buZz> received a SMS the other day, no notification or sound, only noticed today in 'osso-abook' under 'recent'
<buZz> i guess not technically ofono?
<Wizzup> yes, it is conversations.
<buZz> ah
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: heh. but yeah, this shall be fixed
<tmlind> freemangordon: so did adding the notifiers for CIEV and WAKEUP help? :)
<freemangordon> hard to say, as I said I didn;t know what bug I fixed :D
<freemangordon> but Wizzup said he'll test and provide feedback
<tmlind> ok let's wait for that then
<tmlind> a fix for speculative bug
<freemangordon> he said he has to send SMS-es twice a day for context to activate (or appear, can;t recall)
<freemangordon> tmlind: you don;t use leste(hildon), do you?
<freemangordon> uvos: BTW there is a bug I guess in mce - after charger is disconnected, display gets dimmet every 2-3 seconds
<freemangordon> *dimmed
<tmlind> freemangordon: i have a d4 test device with m-l that i carry in my bag, have not updated it for few weeks now though
<freemangordon> tmlind: please do, lots of things improve vastly in terms of gprs/ofono
<tmlind> but yeah i'm still currently stuck with shell scripts for sms and phone calls on my alpine phone..
<tmlind> ok yeah i'll update
<freemangordon> with todays fixes gprs connection should be stable most of the time (if not all)
<tmlind> cool, are the signing key update instructions up somewhere now?
<freemangordon> I think we imported it in our repo, so nothing you shall do
<freemangordon> Wizzup: ^^^?
<freemangordon> uvos: clicking on the display undims it, and it gets re-dimmed in 2-3 seconds and so on
<freemangordon> the only way to fix that is to lock-unlock
<tmlind> ok i'll try dist-upgrade, need to charge the battery a bit first
<freemangordon> Wizzup: before jumping on connui-cellular I would like to add ofono UI dialogs
<freemangordon> tmlind: any idea how long usually it takes for someone to react on ofono ML?
<tmlind> should be only few days
<freemangordon> ok
<freemangordon> ugh:
<freemangordon> POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=253404
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: tmlind: I think adding the notifers helped, I haven't run into it not working yet
<Wizzup> freemangordon: does it also act on the context disappearing / going inactive, btw?
<Wizzup> (as in, the icd plugin I mean)
<freemangordon> yes, including SIM removed/hot-plugged
<Wizzup> hm, ok
<Wizzup> I had some issues where I could not reach hosts but it still said it was active
<freemangordon> well, it could be ofono or the modem itself
<freemangordon> if you can repro, then we can investigaate
<Wizzup> mhm
<tmlind> Wizzup: ok good to hear no issues so far
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<tmlind> yup it's getting there for sure
<dsc_> '/win 75
<dsc_> whoops
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<uvos> buZz: sphone should (and dose for me) ring on sms and show a notification
<buZz> i'd like a 'unread msgs' number in view somewhere :P
<uvos> freemangordon: impossible, mce dosent even know that the charger is connected
<uvos> (so maybe theres a bug but it cant really be related to the charger)
<Wizzup> buZz: conversations will handle this
<uvos> btw sphone also dose this, its just in a systray applet you cant see
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<buZz> ah, maybe a 'statusmenu item' thats systray exists for maemo?
<Wizzup> no, we just need to use libnotify
* Wizzup bbl
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<sicelo> Wizzup: seems wiki is down, at least for me
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<Wizzup> sicelo: ok now?
<freemangordon> uvos__: what about "display stay lit while charging" setting?
<sicelo> yes it opens now
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<norayr> MStarDict *mStarDict)
<norayr> MStarDict::onDownloadDictionariesMenuItemClicked(GtkButton *button,
<norayr> goes to:
<norayr> which doesn't exist anymore
<norayr> similar issue was with msid, which i ported, but one of the sites it was linked to was still available and accessible via, not http, but https.
<norayr> revdanica does not exist anymore, so i don't know what to do... don't even know what was the answer of this request.
<norayr> that function calls osso_rpc_run(mStarDict->osso_context,
<norayr> "com.nokia.osso_browser",
<norayr> "com.nokia.osso_browser",
<norayr> "/com/nokia/osso_browser",
<norayr> "open_new_window",
<norayr> do we have com.nokia.osso_browser now?