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<mighty17[m]> <tmlind> "mighty17: the mesa patch is "egl..." <- Don't we already have it in maemo fork?
<mighty17[m]> Afaik fmg said newer mesa had some issue and so this didn't work?
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<tmlind> mighty17[m]: yup that's it, i think freemangordon had some better ideas for it
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<tmlind> freemangordon: maybe apply the patch above meanwhile if no issues?
<tmlind> freemangordon: also fyi, xserver might have some gles2 issues affecting xwayland close to being fixed looking at https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/924
<tmlind> here's the related xserver bug too https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1288
<tmlind> merge request 924 above has several glamor fixes https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/924/commits
* freemangordon checks
<tmlind> hmm seems like this might be the last remaining bug https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1356
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<tmlind> and this might be a pending fix for the black windows https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/934
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<freemangordon> tmlind: I may have a look at mesa these days, I just get back from a long holiday and still catching up :)
<freemangordon> tmlind: the issue with glamor and sgx is one missing extension
<freemangordon> maybe we shall open an issue and ask for help on how to fix properly
<freemangordon> and then the is the missing rotation support in modesetting
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<freemangordon> *there is
<tmlind> yeah ok, looks like the folks using older intel hw are motivated getting gles2 working
<tmlind> as it's presumably faster
<freemangordon> I can join the effort I guess
<freemangordon> still, omap3 vrfb rotation is first on the queue I guess. Unless we decide to drop n900 from the list of fully supported devices
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<tmlind> seems it can be otherwise supported though, abount of ram is the bottleneck
<tmlind> i guess up to you to decide on where to put the limited effort :)
<tmlind> voice calls and ssh/mosh terminal is still a pretty good use case for low memory devices
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: I also made this trying to streamline at least what I think as important at bit: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/milestone/23
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<sicelo> tmlind: precisely what i intend to use my N900 for (with or without Leste). At least here 2G and 3G still have a bit of a future
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: great, I can take the ofono part
<freemangordon> tmlind: right, portin
<freemangordon> ...
<freemangordon> porting VRFB should not need much effort
<freemangordon> and it will benefit n950 as well
<freemangordon> so yeah, maybe it is better to do it
<freemangordon> maybe it is a good idea to give some love to n950 as well
<freemangordon> Wizzup: do we still provide n950 images?
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<Wizzup> we never did, but we did make n9 images
<Wizzup> looks like we don't make n9 images in the leste image builder atm
<Wizzup> well the jenkins automated one at leaast
<Wizzup> least*
<bencoh> did leste work on n9?
<Wizzup> I think someone had it somewhat running with swrast way back
<Wizzup> dderby did I think
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<mighty17[m]> <tmlind> "mighty17: yup that's it, i think..." <- or maybe we can just not expose it? we do know that the blobs are version 8 and i dont think thats gonna get upgraded anytime soon, so why not just remove `disp->Extensions.EXT_image_dma_buf_import_modifiers = EGL_TRUE;`
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: cool @ ofono
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<tmlind> mighty17[m]: at least wlroots does some checks on it on startup
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<sicelo> freemangordon: great to hear you intend to still work on vrfb
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<mglbg[m]> <freemangordon> "still, omap3 vrfb rotation is..." <- Please dont <3
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<Wizzup> we won't drop n900-
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<mighty17[m]> tmlind: i already have that patch applied, still it fails with the same error
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<uvos> rotation not working is hardly a reason to drop n900 anyhow
<uvos> its not required to use the device, even if we where to never fix it
<uvos> if we ever find the time to port stuff to a newer toolkit (required for modern devices because of scaling) then dropping the n900 might be nessecary
<uvos> as very likely it will flat out run out of ram in this case
<uvos> that said i allredy find the expierance on n900 pretty dismal, as hardly any modern desktop apps will run on it
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<bencoh> uvos: like many said, n900 future will probably be mostly voicecalls+terminal
<bencoh> I still use it daily btw
<bencoh> maemo used to have custom n900 apps for a lot of online services (reddit, twitter, fb, younameit), and I bet that kind of apps could be useful on other hw (d4, pinephone, whatever)
<uvos> none of that liekly helps if everything is gtk4
<uvos> fremantle is allready pretty tight after boot
<uvos> anyhow yes, this dosent mean there are no uses for n900
<uvos> btw rtv is great on d4/probubly n900
<uvos> for reddit
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<sicelo_> Wizzup: thanks for that definitive answer
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