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<Wizzup> sicelo_: no, it's free
<Wizzup> 01:29 < norayr> yes, conversations.im will require payment after first three months of usage
<Wizzup> huh?
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<buZz> am i seeing correctly, that xterm doesnt even do 'all colors' ? it seems to use some dithering for several of the palette
<buZz> hmm weird, with a scrot screenshot i dont see it dithered
<buZz> hard to show, but ; https://i.imgur.com/ELAY5rs.jpg
<buZz> the darkerblues seem to have some eh, line pattern over them?
<buZz> might be because of 16bit vs 24bit color?
<buZz> maybe the LCD itself is doing it even
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<uvos__> buZz: d4 has red green white and blue green white subpixel groups
<buZz> ahhhhh
<uvos__> ie blue/red has half resolution
<uvos__> relatvie to green and luminance
<uvos__> this is to save power
<buZz> right
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<norayr> Wizzup, yes it will. The jabber account will be suspended. Application itself is floss and will continue to work if you login with other account.
<Wizzup> norayr: I will be hitting that soon with my parents and friends then
<Wizzup> I guess I have to set up my own server
<norayr> i also did. lost connection with my mother.
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<norayr> then it was hard to explain by email how to setup other account.
<Wizzup> so where does it say the 3 months thing?
<norayr> yeah. hdat is the best solution
<norayr> i am not sure it says unless the service stops working
<Wizzup> I can't believe that, but I will find out I guess.
<norayr> then the last message u get is about that with the link to prolong subscription
<Wizzup> so I think I have been using it for half a year already
<Wizzup> and nothing like this
<Wizzup> but I'll verify a bit later...
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<buZz> i kinda wonder if the subpixelrendering in Xorg(?) can be made aware of the pattern the d4's lcd has
<uvos__> i doubt it
<buZz> i guess it'll be a font rendering engine thats aware of it
<uvos__> also that would be mostly freetype iirc
<uvos__> yes
<buZz> well, i'm using bitmap fonts in xterm :P
<uvos__> but also the d4's layout is more wierd than i made it seam
<buZz> hmhm
<uvos__> its not rgw bgw
<buZz> maybe i should dig up the microscope and take some nice verycloseups
<buZz> yeah, seems to skip a line somewhere
<uvos__> but 6 pixels are handled sorta in one
<uvos__> with luminance coding
<uvos__> and then the rows are ofset by one subpixel
<uvos__> this allows the pannels dsp to make the effetive luminance resolution greater than the number of subpixels /2
<uvos__> */3
<uvos__> since it can bias the luminance center of the 6 subpixel group around with the white ones
<uvos__> assuming non saturated colors
<norayr> i opened my mother account on jabber.am, server of my friend, which i helped to configure. when he'll have a long electricity outage at home the service will stop working but that usually doesnt happen since the ups is good enough.
<norayr> i sincerely don't understand how. I had this issue with conversations.im accounts twice
<norayr> with my mother and my friend. to both i had to apologize and suggest using other jabber server.
<norayr> yes try to ask at conversations xmpp room
<norayr> xmpp:conversations@conference.siacs.eu?join
<norayr> Or here xmpp:conversations-offtopic-reloaded@conference.trashserver.net?join
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<Wizzup> I will just host my own
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<sicelo> Q: How much does a one year subscription of a Conversations.im account cost?
<sicelo> A: 8 Euro (about $9 US). After a six month trial period. Subscriptions don’t renew themselves. It is not required to terminate the subscription
<sicelo> Wizzup ^^
<sicelo> Yeah it's nowhere on official site though.
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<sice|o> Pali: by the way u-boot n900 - is it able to initialize the usb in other modes besides uart/console? e.g. mass storage?
<sice|o> usbnet, etc.
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<Pali> sice|o: no, because of missing u-boot drivers and because of usage old musb u-boot driver
<Pali> Wizzup planned to look at upgrading to new musb u-boot driver, so maybe with this new musb driver it could be possible
<buZz> ah, -that- conversations
<buZz> not the program in leste ;)
<sice|o> Pali: alright. understandable :-)
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<buZz> on https://www.pngegg.com/en/png-etczx the dithering/subpixellayout are really visible, on those blue and yellow parts mostly
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