<buZz>
freemangordon: i'll see if i can reproduce it in xterm later
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<Wizzup>
freemangordon: so rtcom-eventlogger-plugins produces a libchat.so which needs librtcom-el-plugin-chat which is also produced by the same package
<Wizzup>
but libchat doesn't link against this library at all
<Wizzup>
the same is true for libsms and libcall for similarly named librtcom-el-plugin-... libs
<Wizzup>
I can fix that in the Makefile.am
<Wizzup>
well, it's not super easy since it needs to link to libs it builds itself
<Wizzup>
or maybe the rtcom plugin loading needs to the extra libraries
<Wizzup>
in any case it's not clear to me how this is supposed to work exactly
<Wizzup>
on fremantle it doesn't look like libchat links to librtcom-el-plugin-chat
<Wizzup>
it looks like rtcom-messaging-ui and others just link the lib directly in
<Wizzup>
the one that libchat.s needs
<Wizzup>
uhhh
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<mglbg[m]>
is there a reasonable offline maps program already running on n900? If not, how possible would it be to get osmand into linux? or are there better alternatives?
<Wizzup>
maps yes, but navigation not easily
<Wizzup>
uvos linked some foss android maps/nav a while ago that also has a desktop qt backend
<Wizzup>
lmk if it works for you -- I never got routing to work on modrana but I didn't even try the guide
<mglbg[m]>
looking, will make an attempt
<mglbg[m]>
looking good*
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<Wizzup>
let me know
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<mglbg[m]>
k, tried for a bit, does not yet seem like it uses all maps I downloaded as it seems that tiles are missing which should have been downloaded. eed to look at it a bit further to be more conclusive.
<Wizzup>
ok :)
<Wizzup>
did navigation work?
<mglbg[m]>
* no time for that now though, will keep you updated once I explored further.
<Wizzup>
:)
<mglbg[m]>
not yet but did not get a fix, did not use network pos. and the guide says smth about translating openstreetmap files to monav to get that to work.
<mglbg[m]>
need more time ;)
<Wizzup>
what device?
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<mglbg[m]>
n900 ofc :p
<Wizzup>
check
<Wizzup>
was the modem online?
<Wizzup>
wait, I am not sure if gps works on n900 atm, it still needs gps3 I think
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<mglbg[m]>
no sim card in the device
<mglbg[m]>
not sure about that then?
<Wizzup>
you can definitely still online the modem without sim card
<sicelo>
Yes you can online it without sim. Normal ofono/dbus stuff
<Wizzup>
ok, so gps3 is integrated somehow then?
<sicelo>
And yes, gps is also integrated
<Wizzup>
gps3 I mean :)
<sicelo>
And works. parazyd did good job there
<sicelo>
mglbg[m]: you may just need to wait long enough. No agps, so you're talking raw gps ... that can be around 12 minutes
<Wizzup>
and it needs to be near a window I guess
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<sicelo>
While you can use gps without a sim even on n900, it's very insensitive that way. Put in a sim if you can
<mglbg[m]>
allright! so should be as simple as starting up modrana, allowing for gps and waiting?
<sicelo>
You don't have to use mobile data (even if it asks you)
<Wizzup>
sicelo: but if you don't have ofono installed (default, I think), or nothing onlines the modem, you will wait indefinitely
<mglbg[m]>
allright, sounds appealing
<Wizzup>
sicelo: or at least powered modem
<Wizzup>
even this does not happen unless the ofono icd2 plugin is installed, no?
<sicelo>
I think for n900, it doesn't make much sense not to have ofono. I'd recommend installing it by default for n90p images
<Wizzup>
it will come with the cellular pkgs for all devices
<Wizzup>
no need to make it n900 specific
<Wizzup>
in any case was just commenting on the current state of affairs
<sicelo>
Ok. So yeah, mglbg[m] it's much recommended to use ofono than other means. I don't recall if you can even talk raw AT to the N900 modem
<Wizzup>
my understanding is that he wants to use liblocation, which uses gpsd, which I think just needs the modem to be powered
<Wizzup>
we just only have that in -devel repos still
<mglbg[m]>
let me know if this does not come across properly, I am on matrix. running online-modem gets me the following. I guess that means ofono is not standardly included as I do not recall installing it:
<mglbg[m]>
I find it hard to conclude now what it is you guys suggest.
<sicelo>
`dpkg -l ofono` will tell you if you have it or not
<sicelo>
Anyway, as Wizzup indicated, the gps integration is only in the devel repositories, so you may want to upgrade to that as well. You can still get gps without them, but it's manual work for you
<mglbg[m]>
ok, dpkg tells me ofono is present. As in, adding the -devel repos to the source list?
<Wizzup>
yeah, and then dist-upgrade
<mglbg[m]>
<Wizzup> "my understanding is that he..." <- so gpsd is in the -devel repo, liblocation, or both? Sorry about the load of question, thanks for being so helpful :)
<Wizzup>
gpsd and liblocation are both fine
<Wizzup>
you can install ofono and manually online the modem
<Wizzup>
what -devel gives you is more integration and less manual steps, hopefully
<Wizzup>
in particular the icd2 that talks to ofono
<mglbg[m]>
allright
<Wizzup>
the icd2 plugin*
<mglbg[m]>
ok
<mglbg[m]>
is the telepathy integration also in the -devel already ? :D
<Wizzup>
not fully
<Wizzup>
right now the stuff won't even start, but I'll fix that today or tomorrow :)
<mglbg[m]>
allright, very excited. will keep you guys updated on the modrana stuff
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<norayr>
> uvos wrote:
<norayr>
> if all else fails
<norayr>
> norayr: you can also try using android to charge btw
<norayr>
Android doesnt charge, yes. Only shows empty battery for hours.
<norayr>
> and choose boot to safestrap/stock android
<norayr>
> just boot by pluging in usb
<norayr>
> Wizzup wrote:
<norayr>
> boot with usb cable plugged in
<norayr>
> apt upgrade should get you it
<norayr>
I believe my droid is up to date. Should charge mode appear in a list of bootloader choices? like maemo, stock android, and maemo without gui (dont remember the name of the option)
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<sicelo>
From the kexecboot screen, you can try the first option and choose shutdown. If you're lucky, it will be charging. For the symptoms you describe, charge mode isn't going to be much help
<sicelo>
Getting the required cable is much better option if you want to keep your sanity :-)
<inetdragon>
@Wizzup, I'm back again. I can ssh to the N900 now. I found that 'libdrm-omap1' is not installed. Maybe I should install that?
<Wizzup>
is hildon-meta installed?
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<inetdragon>
The following packages have been kept back:
<inetdragon>
I already tried to remove libgles-dev and libegl-dev. Still doesn't help
<Wizzup>
is the error not different?
<Wizzup>
in that case, remove ti-omap3-sgx
<inetdragon>
When I try to remove ti-omap3-sgx. It fails with:
<inetdragon>
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
<inetdragon>
hildon-meta : Depends: hildon-desktop (>= 1:2.2.182) but it is not going to be installed
<inetdragon>
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
<Wizzup>
you ran apt-get update first, right?
<Wizzup>
(just checking)
<inetdragon>
The initial run from yesterday was OK. However, now I got problem of "No space left on device". I already did an "apt clean"
<inetdragon>
Strange I should still have some space on /dev/root
<inetdragon>
/dev/root 26227900 25516688 0 100% /
<inetdragon>
Need to leave now. I'll check this space issue and try to get "apt update" running first.
<Wizzup>
did you run /etc/expandcard.sh ?
<sicelo>
btw, why not do a fresh install?
<Wizzup>
sicelo: sure but if we can fix the control files to deal with these situations too it might be good
<sicelo>
Yeah. I know I didn't need to reinstall, but was just checking if it's not an option they might like
<Wizzup>
it might depend on some extra pkgs perhaps
<Wizzup>
or some build-deps
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<sicelo_>
fun - my droid 4 was shutting down (white led), and i immediately connected a charger. somehow it then hung there forever until after a while, it rebooted. now white led is stuck, e.g. when i connect charger, now it's light green (blended with the white)
<sicelo_>
:-D
<sicelo_>
anyway, the curious thing is - /sys/class/leds shows 0 brightness for each color (r,g,b)
<sicelo_>
reloading the led modules fixed the issue. but the 0 brightness still there. how does lm3532 keep led state then if sysfs is bogus?
<sicelo_>
or let me do a proper reboot to see what it looks like on a normal boot
<Wizzup>
might be worth to have that on the wiki somewhere
<uvos>
(the xml = navits config file)
<uvos>
Wizzup: right just the repo version is fine
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<inetdragon>
@Wizzup, I finally got the hildon working again. The wifi also works. I don't have held-back packages any longer.
<Wizzup>
inetdragon: what was the solution?
<inetdragon>
I took a look at what the hildon-meta-n900 contains by using "apt show hild-meta-n900". Then I do "apt install sgx-ddk-um-ti343x xserver-xorg-video-omap firmware-ti-connectivity sgx-ddk-um-tools libegl-mesa0 libgles2". Just picked some of the packages there.
<Wizzup>
what package did it uninstall?
<Wizzup>
do you still have that in the terminal somewhere?
<inetdragon>
This triggers the removal of the ti-omap3-sgx along with some packages, including hildon-meta and hildon-desktop.
<Wizzup>
ok, and afterwards you were able to install hildon-meta again I suppose?
<inetdragon>
Yes. Then when I do an "apt dist-upgrade" again, it's installing the hildon-meta and hildon-desktop again.
<inetdragon>
After that I can do "apt install hildon-meta-n900" without complaint about the dependency.
<inetdragon>
You can take a look. During removing ti-omap3-sgx, it actually complaining about some dependency would be broken. However, in the end, it doesn't matter. This package is actually not used.
<inetdragon>
After doing the above and reboot. It still doesn't work because the 'xserver-xorg-video-pvrsgx' installs /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/pvrsgx_drv.so, which conflicts withe omap driver.
<inetdragon>
I have to remove that package as well. Then it works again.
<Wizzup>
yes, that package should be removed too
<Wizzup>
maybe you had some packaged marked as manually installed and this made it barf
<inetdragon>
Apart from the hildon issue, I also had the issue that the 'wpasupplicant' is held back. To fix that, simply "apt remove" and "apt install" works.
<Wizzup>
that might have caused problems, since we packaged a newer wpa supplicant, which then might have conflicted with wicd
<inetdragon>
Don't remember any longer. It was quite some time ago. Maybe when I played with the wifi stuff, I've installed that.
<Wizzup>
check
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<inetdragon>
Thanks for helping debugging the issue and point to the right direction(the hildon-meta-n900)
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<Wizzup>
np, sorry for the trouble
<Wizzup>
let me know if you run into problems
<inetdragon>
BTW, the "device full" issue during "apt update" is related to some huge icd2.log. Maybe last time when I started icd2 as background in the console, it produces some huge error log.
<Wizzup>
hmmm
<Wizzup>
new logs for maemo should go to /var/log/maemo
<Wizzup>
was it in there
<Wizzup>
and got a tail of that log?
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<inetdragon>
Yes. It was in that location. I don't have it any longer. I've removed that right away when I found the culprit. :-)
<inetdragon>
I should have used tail to check a bit what's really wrong.
<Wizzup>
makes sense
<Wizzup>
it could be related to wicd perhaps
<buZz>
wicd is dead in chimaera
<inetdragon>
ok. What's the general progress on the chimaera work?
<inetdragon>
I noticed another issue related to graphics. When I run es2_info( installed through mesa-utils-extra ), there are a bunch of repeated error messages: "PVR:(Error): FindAppHintInFile : Invalid hint name at /etc/powervr.ini line 2 [0, ]"
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<inetdragon>
For the second line in powervr.ini, it's "WSEGL_UseHWSync=1".
<Wizzup>
maybe we could remove it, but we should check that it doens't make an impact
<inetdragon>
Maybe @parazyd knows?
<Wizzup>
I doubt he'll ever come back, but who knows
<Wizzup>
I don't think he will know in any case
<Wizzup>
we can check with fmg this week
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<sicelo_>
OT: what's a good xmpp server to register on? i've had a jabber.org account since ages, but a friend reports they get "server-to-server connection failed: dh key too small" when writing to me. seems to jabber.org needs to update their stack
<sicelo_>
looking on internet, it would seem this has been going on for a long time, so i suppose it's not going to be fixed soon - hence the interest to know what are some highly recommended xmpp servers out there
<sixwheeledbeast>
jabber.org has been in a low maintenance mode for a very long time.
<sixwheeledbeast>
I don't think they have been taking new accounts for nearly a decade.
<sixwheeledbeast>
can't say I have had the above issue tho.
<sixwheeledbeast>
there is multiple certs only one has expired. it has been B rated for ages due to 1024bit.
<sicelo_>
yes, i think that's the reason my contact's server complains about 'dh key too small'
<sicelo_>
Wizzup: conversations.im requires payment? the site doesn't talk about it, but i think i saw somewhere mention of a payment after 6 months of free us
<sicelo_>
*use
<sixwheeledbeast>
get rid of that cert it's dead anyway?
<sicelo_>
sixwheeledbeast: looking at the error message, that's not exactly happening on my end, but between servers. so i guess jabber.org advertises this weak cert, my friend's server notices this and refuses to proceed further.
<norayr>
we configured it to have also audio and video calls working
<sixwheeledbeast>
the error is complaining about cipher length i'd guess. DH as in diffie-helman.
<norayr>
and some extensions like message carbons and carbon copies and mam something
<norayr>
i use blabber client right now to write here
<sixwheeledbeast>
creep.im like I said before was the most secure/feature rich service I found to get a friend working. they haven't complained about issues.
<norayr>
yeah and http_upload also supported
<norayr>
it runs on freebsd by the way.
<sicelo_>
sixwheeledbeast: yes creep.im has nice ratings. only issue is from their own page, "Due to its focus on privacy and ease of use, Creep.im is currently getting widely abused by spammers. Which led to its inclusion in spam lists. That means that communication with other servers is limited"
<sicelo_>
not sure how negatively that would affect me