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<uvos>
buZz: same file, sysfs, please use grep
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<Wizzup>
uvos: ok I'll look at getting a few MB865
<uvos>
Wizzup: neat
<uvos>
looks like MB865/ME865 was also updated to android 4.1
<uvos>
annoying
<Wizzup>
uvos: ordered
<Wizzup>
brb, dinner
<Wizzup>
the battery replacement you have on the bionic, does it require the extended back case?
<uvos>
battery replacement?
<uvos>
i have a non oem/ different battery in droid 4 not bionic
<Wizzup>
oh
<Wizzup>
sorry, I got confused
<uvos>
i just have a bw8x that has allmost rated capacity
<uvos>
amazingly
<uvos>
(after 10 years)
<uvos>
noooooooo
<uvos>
no utags :(
<uvos>
y u no update your damn bootloaders, motorola
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<uvos>
Wizzup: the Voice Call dapm mode gets set active in a voice call
<uvos>
but for some reason the downstream nodes dot get also activated
<uvos>
i dont have the foggiest idea why
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<missMyN900>
wow I put the Pinephone away the day before yesterday in a drawer after having installed Mobian
<missMyN900>
not sure if it was even fully charged but I forgot it was still on and now I see the battery is still 34%!
<missMyN900>
this is really an insane difference compared to pmOS and ML
<missMyN900>
suspend is working really well on Mobian
<missMyN900>
not going to change my decision to sell it but it does show what is possible with the PP for ML eventually
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<missMyN900>
having to rely only on suspend is primitive PM for sure but it does work really well
<uvos>
you can suspend in ml
<uvos>
nothings stopping you
<missMyN900>
but I thought there was a bug?
<missMyN900>
oh it just dropped to 20% suddenly after using it briefly...
<missMyN900>
someone on here said it would crash sometimes
<uvos>
you have to disable longpress action
<uvos>
in mce
<uvos>
its not a crash
<uvos>
its shuting down because you pressed the power button
<missMyN900>
but would that not occur consistently?
<missMyN900>
I am talking about something that would happen randomly
<missMyN900>
but yeah I did try suspend once briefly using ssh
<uvos>
yes because mce by default shutsdown when you longpress the power button
<uvos>
depending how long you press and the interval between the press and the real resume
<missMyN900>
and it was working but did not test it for an extended period of time to study the power consumption
<uvos>
it might end up looking like longpress
<missMyN900>
I thought you were talking about something like that wrt a mapphone yesterday?
<uvos>
no that was about the pp
<uvos>
the mapphones obv dont have sutch an issue
<uvos>
they suspend/resume 30 times a second
<uvos>
or more
<missMyN900>
yes TI OMAP is very nice
<missMyN900>
I wonder if the i.MX6/8 are just as good in that aspect
<missMyN900>
(I have an old Wandboard Dual with i.MX6)
<missMyN900>
I have always liked i.MX
<uvos>
anyhow
<missMyN900>
sadly there are not that many images for the Wandboard
<missMyN900>
and most require using the serial port which is annoying
<missMyN900>
I never got a serial cable
<uvos>
if you have even trival c knowlage you could write a mce module to suspend when the screen is off
<missMyN900>
I see, that is nice
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<missMyN900>
I will still sell the PP though because of other things
<missMyN900>
I am hoping I can get a DB eventually
<missMyN900>
but right now it does not work for me
<missMyN900>
too much stuff to do and too many devices already
<missMyN900>
I would like to but I have to be realistic
<uvos>
i mean bionics are <30 euro and installing leste on one takes 45min but ok
<missMyN900>
in theory it takes 45 min for an experienced person like you ;)
<missMyN900>
for me it will probably take much more than that
<missMyN900>
and it is not just installation
<missMyN900>
I also need to find the time to actually do something with it
<uvos>
sure
<missMyN900>
otherwise it will just be sitting there with an empty battery that is degrading
<missMyN900>
so I will have to see how things go
<missMyN900>
I have still have many things to do and I want to mod qtwebbrowser first anyway
<missMyN900>
if I am going to use the DB once every 6 months, I might as well just run the QEMU VM
<missMyN900>
uvos: by the way, have you seen the new Pocket Reform Mini
<missMyN900>
it is really awesome
<missMyN900>
don't think it has touch screen so not really a potential ML target but still a really cool mobile Linux device
<missMyN900>
it comes with an i.MX8M Plus by default but can also use a Raspberry Pi CM4 or Pine64 RK3566-based SO module as motherboard
<missMyN900>
uvos: do you think you will ever get the Motorola LTE modem to work on the DB and other mapphones?
<missMyN900>
because I recall you saying that it is possible to make it work on other bands than the official ones or maybe that was referring to another modem
<uvos>
i dont see the point of those types of devices really
<missMyN900>
DB?
<missMyN900>
or the Motorola modem in the mapphones?
<uvos>
prm
<missMyN900>
what is prm?
<missMyN900>
oh
<missMyN900>
the Reform laptop
<missMyN900>
why not?
<missMyN900>
the size?
<missMyN900>
or are you also referring to the original Reform?
<uvos>
i dont see the usecase where i could carry that
<uvos>
but not a laptop
<missMyN900>
yeah
<uvos>
and laptops are plety linux compatabil
<missMyN900>
I can understand that
<missMyN900>
true
<missMyN900>
but there are no proprietary blobs on the i.MX8 AFAIK
<uvos>
sure
<missMyN900>
there is no proprietary BIOS
<missMyN900>
and no proprietary firmware
<missMyN900>
*UEFI
<uvos>
i could still buy a old thinkpad if that was a priority for me
<uvos>
and get better perf
<missMyN900>
sure but this is something that you can buy new
<uvos>
(it isent a priority tho)
<missMyN900>
those won't be available forever
<missMyN900>
that is why the PP project was also started, I think
<uvos>
then a chromebook fits the bill
<uvos>
anyhow
<uvos>
wirt the modem
<uvos>
no idea
<missMyN900>
of course, the Reform is closer to a Librem 5 than the PP
<missMyN900>
PBP is of course closer to the PP;)
<uvos>
its not a priority atm
<uvos>
i also have a limesdr
<missMyN900>
LOL
<uvos>
that could be a lte basestation
<uvos>
to try it
<missMyN900>
are you going to iplemet LTE on it?
<uvos>
sure would not be so hard
<uvos>
to test the modem
<missMyN900>
I don't think the power consumption is going to be good for mobile...
<missMyN900>
oh
<uvos>
no i mean as a basestation
<uvos>
with us specs
<uvos>
but its not a priority as you can imagine
<missMyN900>
I have an RTL-SDR
<missMyN900>
but I am not doing that advanced stuff
<missMyN900>
I failed to decode any digital signal with it
<missMyN900>
compiled lots of stuff manually
<uvos>
well that dosent have close to the specs to do lte anyhow
<missMyN900>
yep
<missMyN900>
but you said 2G and 3G are also shutting down in Europe?
<uvos>
only 3g
<uvos>
for now (2030 ish)
<missMyN900>
oh
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<missMyN900>
then there is still plenty of time to get the Motorola modem working ;)
<missMyN900>
or to start a NeoDroid4 project :D
<missMyN900>
it can have a 5G modem ;)
<missMyN900>
hopefully Mediatek learns something from their Chromebook experience
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<norayr>
uvos, Wizzup, this atrix 2 device will work with lapdock under linux?
<uvos>
norayr: sure
<uvos>
norayr: but so dose droid 4 or bionic
<uvos>
they all share the same port layout so you can connect them to eatch others lapdocks
<uvos>
(except the atrix 1 one its reversed)
<norayr>
omg i did not know.
<norayr>
and what about droid 3?
<uvos>
i think it should work to
<norayr>
i don't know actually how they connect. via usb?
<uvos>
but it dosent have offical support i think
<uvos>
so all motorla devices of this time period have hdmi out and usb otg in the same place
<uvos>
the lapdock has a cradle that connects to both
<norayr>
understand.
<uvos>
for the first lapdock the cradle was specifc to the deivce
<uvos>
(ie the atrix 4g)
<uvos>
but later its just a slot with the connectors
<uvos>
so any phone will fit that has the same port layout
<uvos>
and all the phones also had the linux install in parralell with android
<uvos>
(ie ubuntu 12.04 based linux/xorg)
<norayr>
oh true, i start to remember that.
<norayr>
so when connected to lapdock they were running ubuntu.
<norayr>
not android.
<uvos>
both
<norayr>
wow.
<uvos>
it spins up a container
<norayr>
yes.
<uvos>
the d3 cant do it
<uvos>
(probubly because of the 512mb ram)
<norayr>
i probably won't get a lapdock, but it's interesting.
<norayr>
and for d3 i would run only linux anyway.
<norayr>
the possibility to reuse old mapphones is amazing.
<norayr>
since i only use d4 recently
<norayr>
i noticed people don't even realize it is an old device.
<norayr>
they think it is something new and shiny.
<norayr>
i just had this idea that we already live in a dystopia.
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<norayr>
it's there when 'war is peace' and when (also in post apocalyptic societies) people search and trade devices that are no more produced.
<norayr>
why omap chipsets were well supported in mainline? should we thank ti for that? did they contribute to mainline?