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<riteo>
hi sewn
<sewn>
hi riteo
<riteo>
midfavila: regarding dead kiss, that's the whole point of this distro and its craziest aspect. It /cant't/ die
<riteo>
you can't kill it
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<sewn>
riteo: you're talking about how it was designed to be
<sewn>
kiss was designed to be a meta-distro, in a way for anyone to just fork it and maintain it on their own
<sewn>
when we say kiss, we are talking about kiss community really
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<riteo>
fair
<riteo>
I mean, every once in a while I do kiss u and I still see new stuff so, that's activity from my PoV :P
<sewn>
thats just 'maintain' stage
<sewn>
i want to see proposals get picked up
<riteo>
tbch
<riteo>
I would love to see improvements done to the distro
<riteo>
and I _could_ technically
<riteo>
but
<riteo>
if I had the chance to work on a package manager, I'd work on a new distro plainly
<riteo>
I'm still using kiss daily don't get me wrong, but in those years I've seen it as a stepping stone, a prototype in a way, and a brilliant one if you ask me
<riteo>
point is, from my point of view, KISS Linux has reached its apex already
<sewn>
it will reach its apex once kiss gets rewritten
<sewn>
or dylan comes back
<riteo>
is the rewrite going to be in C?
<sewn>
we dont know
<sewn>
there is no definitive rewrite
<sewn>
dylan made on in C called k
<sewn>
maintainers made bliss (lua) and kiss-ng (zig; nothing implemented)
<sewn>
kiss-xorg maintainer did kiss.el (lisp) and i forgot made kiss-rs (rust)
<riteo>
mh
<riteo>
that's another interesting point
<sewn>
kiss is a concept, package manager specification, and distro
<sewn>
all at once
<sewn>
and also a package manager specification implementation
<riteo>
I might be going all ship of theseus rn, it doesn't help that I'm badly sleep deprived, but I feel like, maybe due to time reasons, maybe due to package format reasons, even just rewriting the package manager in c for the sake of it wouldn't change much
<riteo>
the shell pkgman, despite being not ideal, was always the strongest concept and selling point in a way
<riteo>
and exactly due to how KISS Linux is all those things combined changing something changes everything
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<riteo>
I do agree with a lot of those proposals but by the time you implement them all it becomes something else entirely. The point of KISS was, in a way, to be maybe even _too_ simple. It showed how plain "dumb" and flexible at the same time a distro can be
<riteo>
like, the package manager is a shell script, a shell script! I played a lot with shell scripts in the past and there's only so little you can do with shell scripts before you have to switch to an actual programming language
<riteo>
although, again, that's my point of view (which is probably further exaggerated by my very little sleep these last few days)
<riteo>
thanks for coming to my TED talk
<sewn>
i was at your TED talk but i was on my phone the entire time
<riteo>
lol
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<sad_plan>
hi
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