<sad_plan>
Doomking: well.. tinyx runs through the framebuffer, so theres a performance hit for sure. but you dont need mesa anymore because of it. which imo is nice. theres also no support for super key, at all.
<sad_plan>
and yes, dwm will work with tinyx.
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<Doomking>
Not having super key isn’t a big deal
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<Doomking>
Just wonder how much of a performance hit it’ll be, but I guess I’ll find out once I try it
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<sad_plan>
yeah, youll notice when you try it. I personally dont think its such a big deal.
<Doomking>
What additional steps do I need to get it to work? I saw on ehawkvu that there were some requirements to get it to work
<sad_plan>
yeah, you just have to modify sx abit to be able to launch it
<Doomking>
too bad I didn’t get to see this after I started my mass compile of xorg and other stuff
<sad_plan>
I have the modified one in my repo. altough now that I think about it, I should really patch it instead of just ship the modified version
<sad_plan>
tinyx still requires alot of xlibs, so I dont really see the issue
<Doomking>
should i interrupt it? or should i let it finish before uninstalling it
<Doomking>
ohh
<sad_plan>
but sure, abort, and just kiss b tinyx, and itll fetch any missing stuff
<Doomking>
gotcha
<Doomking>
what’s your repo btw?
<sad_plan>
github.com/hovercats/kiss-dumpsterfire
<Doomking>
thanks!
<sad_plan>
yw C:
<Doomking>
since i’m not too sure how to minimize dependencies
<Doomking>
how important is cmake and llvm? i must have those right?
<Doomking>
i know cmake and llvm are needed for xorg if i’m not mistaken
<sad_plan>
llvm isnt needed at all. its mostly needed for mesa, unless you use radeon/amd gpu.
<sad_plan>
cmake also shouldnt be needed
<Doomking>
oh that’s good, i can avoid finishing llvm. was at 55% before i aborted the build
<sad_plan>
but you probably want a background setter, as the *default* background is.. bad
<Doomking>
shittttt i wasted so many hours to compile those for no reason:(
<Doomking>
what’s a background setter?
<Doomking>
like feh?
<sad_plan>
yes
<sad_plan>
I belive feh also requires cmake. I use bgs, which requires imlib2, which ends up needing cmake.
<sad_plan>
not sure about feh, or others for that matter
<Doomking>
is there a minimalist background setter?
<Doomking>
that doesn’t require cmake
<Doomking>
i thought feh was almost as small as you can get
<sad_plan>
bgs is pretty small, but its ends up requireing libjpeg-turbo, which requires cmake. Ive been looking for one aswell
<Doomking>
so you have cmake compiled right?
<sad_plan>
I use cmake for other things anyway, so it doesnt really matter that much to begin with
<sad_plan>
yes
<Doomking>
oh okay, was about to uninstall it 💀
<Doomking>
thank god i didnt
<sad_plan>
you can always reinstall it if its needed by anything else
<sad_plan>
kiss will just do that for you if its needd
<sad_plan>
s/needd/needed/
<Doomking>
but don’t i have to compile it again?
<Doomking>
that’s the biggest issue, to limit the amount of times compiling on my machine
<Doomking>
but if i have to, then i guess i have too
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<Doomking>
sad_plan: what window manager are you currently using?
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<sad_plan>
if youve already compiled it, and you still have the tarball on storage, then no. kiss will take care of that for you
<sad_plan>
im using glazier
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<Doomking>
ooou i never heard of that before
<Doomking>
how does that compare to sowm?
<sad_plan>
its pretty niche tbh :p
<sad_plan>
its comparable.
<Doomking>
both seem to be very minimal floating window manager
<sad_plan>
it uses xcb though
<sad_plan>
yeeah, its pretty minimal
<Doomking>
so glazier is a bit bigger than sowm?
<sad_plan>
in comparisson to sowm, it doesnt handle anything but windows. so one has to use something like sxhkd to launch applications
<sad_plan>
yeah, it has more LOC
<Doomking>
Ahh, so I can assume glazier has more feature than sowm
<Doomking>
In your opinion, what advantages does glaizer provide that sowm doesn’t? I want to get as minimal as possible, but not too the super extreme where it’s not practical.
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<sad_plan>
glazier only has some window features really, double borders, teleportation. it can also change bordercolors depending on colors within the window. which is kinda a cool feature, but I dont care for it tbh
<sad_plan>
but yeah, I suppose glazier has more features this way. but as I said, it only handles windows. nothing else. so one has to use sometihng like sxhkd to launch applications. with sowm, you dont need that
<sad_plan>
regarding advantages.. I dunno. its made to be more unixy atleast. youre less bound to its already configured keybindings though, seeing as it really only has 3, which is move, resize and teleport
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<Doomking>
sad_plan: For the font is there one where I can grab from the repo or do I need to download a file?
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<Doomking>
Also any template for the sxrc?
<Doomking>
Saw online who had a file with “while true; do …”
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<sad_plan>
tinyx comes with the neccessary fonts to build. besides that you still need a font of any sort. liberation-mono i.e
<sad_plan>
if you dont need to start anything but dwm, you only need to add exec dwm into the script
<sad_plan>
however, you can do sx sh $HOME/.sxrc
<sad_plan>
so you can use that, but just running sx wont do anything, because it looks for .config/sx/sxrc if youve not set XDG_CONFIG_HOME to someting else
<Doomking>
oh i see
<sad_plan>
theres no reason to overcomplicate your sxrc.
<Doomking>
yeah, i just placed one line to run the wm
<Doomking>
i think the issue is that my wifi isn’t connecting so sx won’t work
<sad_plan>
sx doesnt have anything to do with wifi
<sad_plan>
sx works offline
<Doomking>
wpa_supplicant went thru but the no queue state is down even after “ip link set wlan0 up”
<Doomking>
damn… not sure why my sx still does nothing
<sad_plan>
thats just runit trying to start wpa_supplicant. its a separate case
<sad_plan>
is it execuatable?
<Doomking>
I followed your earlier step with fixing sx for tinyx, but i’m not sure if it went smoothly
<Doomking>
yeah it’s executable with chmod 755
<Doomking>
but the sed line created _ then we rename it to sx to replace the original one from /usr/bin right?
<sad_plan>
if youre refering to from my buildscript, then yes. we basically send the output of the sed to _, then overwrite sx with the content of _. which is what we want in this case
<sad_plan>
ive pushed those changes to my repo, so you should basically just be able to use kiss to install it from my repo
<sad_plan>
just make sure youre on the latest, as I pushed those changes afterwards iirc
<Doomking>
Thank you!
<sad_plan>
np
<sad_plan>
does it work now?
<Doomking>
I’m not sure why my wifi connection is acting up now?
<Doomking>
now it says state dormant
<Doomking>
nvm now it’s back to down
<Doomking>
weirdly the wpa_supplicant successfully initialized but the other part isn’t working
<Doomking>
i’m gonna try googling again, but they keep mentioning ip link set wlan0 up or ifconfig wlan0 up
<sad_plan>
ive never really liked wpa_supplicant that much. but theres a trick you can use instead. do you have dhcpcd installed?
<sad_plan>
you can instead use the dhcpcd hook to start wpa_supplicant
<sad_plan>
instead of using wpa_supplicant serivce script.
<Doomking>
let me take a look
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<sad_plan>
or use the wpa_suplicant serivce instead, if youd rather use that. its up to you really
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<Doomking>
rip to my system
<Doomking>
i’ll just chroot into my system and update it
<Doomking>
the best i can do for now
<Doomking>
thanks again for helping me out with tinyx and sx
<Doomking>
I’ll report back on the progress, but hoping sx will work after installing your package!
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<sad_plan>
yw
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<Doomking>
sad_plan: what should i do with the “Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/100dpi” i installed liberation-fonts so i’m assuming this is something entirely different
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<asimovsh>
someone have tested if hyprland without x support can run in kiss?