02:50 <testuser[m]> illiliti: ye

02:50 <testuser[m]> Hi

02:52 <acheam> hi

02:55 <noocsharp> hi

11:06 <testuser[m]> This is the consequence of listening to the demands of the JavaScript/Java Hipsters and adding new features into this (formerly beautiful, stable and simplistic) programming language.

11:06 <testuser[m]> Their desire for new features is insatiable, and after generics the will demand for more features and syntactic sugar. They are sugar addicts and in a few years Go will be bloated like most other programming languages out there.

12:59 <omanom> ^ i actually don't disagree with this (in general terms, not specifically/only Go). it happens to every language that gets popular enough to attract "the masses", and it seems to be very hard for steering committees and the like to push back.

18:50 <acheam> this is why a BDFL is better

19:13 <omanom> I mean, even BDFLs have a lot of pressure to "conform". It is part of why Guido stepped down from Python BDFL -- arguments over stupid change proposals that were more about "but i want to bring stuff from this other language in because I want Python to be more like it" rather than "this is beneficial to Python the programming language"

19:57 <noocsharp> this is why simplicity/making it practical to fork things is important

20:00 <noocsharp> inevitably bad decisions will be made, the question becomes what are you able to do about it

23:10 <acheam> omanom: thats fair..... not everyone is dylan :)