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<sad_plan> nevermind
<midfavila> sad_plan I use everything under core/official and mbase
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<sad_plan> ok, cool
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<testuser[m]> Hi
<sad_plan> hi
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<illiliti> in ideal world, we should be able to get rid of glib
<illiliti> but that's not possible sadly :(
<illiliti> this garbage hardcoded everywhere
<testuser[m]> What's so bad about it
<testuser[m]> What does it even do
<testuser[m]> I've only seen it used for some DS
<illiliti> suckless has some good notes about it
<illiliti> basically, it tries to bring java into c
<illiliti> absolute madness
<testuser[m]> The only point on the suckless page is that it aborts on OOM which is indeed bad for a library but tbh it's acceptable
<illiliti> no, it's not acceptable
<illiliti> it is highly abused by soydevs who don't understand idiomatic c
<testuser[m]> What do u do if malloc fails
<testuser[m]> In my libs i don't abort but in programs i do
<testuser[m]> in libs u return failure
<illiliti> depends
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<dilyn> testuser[m]: yes, tab crashing is a big problem for me and always has been on chromium :v
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<anonym> Hi
<anonym> testuser[m]: have you tried nouveau?
<illiliti> dilyn: at least tab crashing is a good indicator that website is bloated af
<dilyn> happens a lot on google's websites
<dilyn> I frequently experience tab crashes during work meetings:)
<illiliti> google websites are full of spyware javascript. no wonder why they crash xd
<testuser[m]> What reply do u give
<testuser[m]> anonym: no
<illiliti> ?
<testuser[m]> illiliti: i was asking dilyn
<illiliti> ok
<dilyn> "This meeting's so nice I joined it twice"
<dilyn> because for about two minutes there's an overlap between my frozen, crashed instance and the new and improved instance :v
<testuser[m]> Why don't u just use ff
<dilyn> Because building rust is a slog I don't appreciate
<dilyn> building chromium is faster than building rust+firefox
<testuser[m]> but building rust once in 3 months and building ff is faster
<testuser[m]> 20 mins vs 6 hrs
<dilyn> i mean that's also true
<dilyn> but
<dilyn> this is the other reason :v
<dilyn> I use firefox in my Ubuntu VM for work at least... xD
<testuser[m]> Aren't the deps the same almost?
<dilyn> gtk
<testuser[m]> Oh ig u removed gtk from chromium
<testuser[m]> yea
<dilyn> yah
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<dilyn> aura needs to get better. I want my dialog boxes back
<testuser[m]> ur so dedicated
<dilyn> finding alternative ways of uploading files is a challenge. Some websites are smart enough to allow you to do it from file://
<dilyn> I'm just willing to forgo minor convenience for principles :c
<testuser[m]> Btw do u manually check outdated packages for community repo
<dilyn> about once a month
<testuser[m]> How
<testuser[m]> There's hundreds of them
<dilyn> wdym?
<dilyn> kiss out git/community
<testuser[m]> Yea i was asking if u did it by hand
<testuser[m]> Lol
<dilyn> oic
<testuser[m]> Instead of the outdated script
<dilyn> lol yeah no fuck that
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<testuser[m]> illiliti: what was the problem with firefox ipv6 again?
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<illiliti> it doesn't work at all
<illiliti> even direct access by ip address
<testuser[m]> illiliti: what does it say
<testuser[m]> exactly
<illiliti> i don't remember
<illiliti> i'm not at home atm
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<illiliti> phoebos: are you here? can you help?
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<phoebos> let me test again
<phoebos> testuser[m]: just says "Unable to connect"
<phoebos> can't see anything in the dev tools
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<phoebos> works as expected on glibc
<illiliti> thanks for the help
<phoebos> not much help lol
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<aosync> hello guys
<aosync> phoebos: are you auscyberman ?
<aosync> has dylan given any updates on the direction ?
<phoebos> aosync: on shithub i'm aabacchus
<aosync> by shithub, you mean github right? not actual shithub
<phoebos> yes
<aosync> I know someone that used to be active on the unixporn community that was a fan of phoebe bridgers
<rohan> hey guys
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<rohan> whats new?
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<ax> good evening all
<ax> -> Building: explicit: terminus-font, implicit: bdftopcf
<ax> ERROR 'bdftopcf' not found
<ax> kisscommunity repo
<rohan> maybe get purged
<rohan> what i see bdftopcf have xorg dependencies
<rohan> thats why not more in community
<ax> i know but it in community repo
<ax> for this I have reported
<ax> it should probably only be in the kiss-xorg repo
<phoebos> nice find ax, will have to drop terminus-font from community probably
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<ax> phoebos: imagine, I was annoyed to open a pull request for this type of report ... I preferred to do it directly here
<phoebos> dilyn:
<phoebos> actually it looks like bdftopcf is only required for X11 fonts
<phoebos> ax: you could send this patch to aarng (the maintainer of terminus-font): https://tmp.bvnf.space/0001-terminus-font-remove-dep-on-bdftopcf.patch
<phoebos> kiss main terminus-font
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<phoebos> will kiss-community restart maintaining kiss itself? lot of changes to kiss from what happened with the last fork
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