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<phoebos> akira01: did you mention the patch in the sources file
<phoebos> add the line 'patches/name.patch' to sources
<akira01> dammit
<akira01> i forget thar
<akira01> thanks
<phoebos> (:
<akira01> maybe now i can try again to port gimp
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<Hazoune> do we have logbot here?
<Hazoune> > After more than 16 years of operation I have made the decision to shutdown LogBot.
<Hazoune> nevermind.
<Hazoune> noocsharp, thanks man!
<noocsharp> np
<akira01> Gosh
<acheam> ?
<akira01> why is so hard to port some big packages
<acheam> b l o a t
<Hazoune> because it is big?
<akira01> yeah
<akira01> but fuck
<akira01> is one dependencie
<akira01> how not works
<akira01> i hate bloat
<acheam> what package
<akira01> intltool
<acheam> i have intltool packaged
<akira01> just need this shit
<akira01> gosh pls send me
<akira01> i tried everything to get xml parser module
<Hazoune> :v
<akira01> and nothinf
<acheam> I think I stole it from midfavila actually
<acheam> because it needs perl-xml which is packaged in his repo
<akira01> Lol
<akira01> thanks
<akira01> i think with this i can finally build gimp or a least the depends
<acheam> intltool isnt required to build gimp
<akira01> yeah but is to build libmypaint
<akira01> i tried and told me that a need to install
<akira01> already used this repo to build
<akira01> And some packages need some depends
<akira01> or not build
<acheam> build with --enable-i18n=no
<akira01> thats a thing
<acheam> for libmypaint
<acheam> maybe some others too
<acheam> just follow the repo I sent above
<acheam> eudalgr is a genius
<akira01> yeah i followed
<akira01> what happened to him?
<acheam> hmm idk
<akira01> i real hoped he will port openjdk
<Hazoune> nice repository name, garbage. I'll note that
<akira01> acheam: --enable-i18n=no not solved
<akira01> Still need intltool
<akira01> Anyway
<akira01> now i have the package
<acheam> just use his gimp build?
<acheam> and its deps
<akira01> not will work
<akira01> some deps are missing
<akira01> and he used gimp develop version
<akira01> who need deps unecessary
<acheam> then modify it
<acheam> but at least its a working base to start from
<acheam> what deps missing?
<akira01> json-glib
<akira01> dont how he build libmypaint without intltool
<acheam> make sure your building his libmypaint package not yours
<acheam> json-glib was in the glib package just look around for it in git log
<akira01> appstream-glib is not necessary is just a deps for gimp dev
<akira01> If it has in glib
<akira01> so i will have not problem in build what i need
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<GalaxyNova> do you think matrix is *bloated*
<GalaxyNova> I'm pretty put off by gomuks being a whopping 28 megabytes
<GalaxyNova> and element is just an electron app
<acheam> those are client issues not protocol issues
<acheam> but yes, I do think its a bloated protocol
<acheam> i've been using xmpp recently and really liking it
<acheam> the protocol is much more flexible
<GalaxyNova> oh I've heard of xmpp too
<GalaxyNova> what client did you try
<acheam> profanity and yaxim
<Hazoune> has anyone tried the labwc?
<GalaxyNova> the compositor?
<Hazoune> it is like openbox
<Hazoune> but for wayland
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<testuser[m]> Hi
<testuser[m]> GalaxyNova: that's just go packages in general, but yeah there is a lot of feature creep in the protocol aswell
<testuser[m]> But that's what you gotta do if you want regular people to try it
<testuser[m]> Like shitcord users
<GalaxyNova> yeah...
<GalaxyNova> I'm trying to migrate my school club from discord to matrix
<GalaxyNova> people are resisting
<GalaxyNova> lol
<testuser[m]> I have a couple of discord friends on matrix but whenever they use they just talk in the shitcord bridge I'm running since there's no one on matrix to talk to lol
<testuser[m]> So it's not really a huge step up from shitcord
<testuser[m]> Apart from the spyware client
<testuser[m]> Also element doesn't have the best UX so...
<GalaxyNova> not to mention
<GalaxyNova> it doesn't quite work on webkit
<testuser[m]> Oh i was talking about the android ap
<testuser[m]> App
<GalaxyNova> oh yeah that as well
<testuser[m]> webkit is probably too bad to support modern enterprise grade js frameworks
<GalaxyNova> you don't get a server list like you do on discord
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<aws> yep
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<f1> hi
<vulpine> hi
<testuser[m]> hi
<Hazoune> hi
<f1> how are y'all doing
<testuser[m]> nice
<Hazoune> yes
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<Guest976> hi. i'm going to switch to jabber. can you advise on a secure xmpp server?
<omanom> ejabberd is one option
<Guest976> oh, I noticed that there was already talk about messengers here today
<Guest976> omanom: thanks
<omanom> their subsequent post "XMPP - Fun with Clients" has a little more information as well
<Guest976> omanom: thanks again :D
<omanom> oh cool and they've got some even newer posts i haven't seen, like https://blog.windfluechter.net/2020/06/19/1759-jitsi-meet-and-ejabberd/
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<Guest6012> Hi! It's me again. Is there a good command line client for Jabber?
<omanom> i believe profanity was recommended recently
<Guest6012> Thanks :D
<omanom> some other client applications like weechat might have XMPP plugins/extensions https://github.com/sleduc/weechat-xmpp
<omanom> (catgirl and kirc do not, on the off chance you're using one of those)
<Guest6012> Oh, ok
<omanom> i think Pidgin has a console version called Finch, I don't know whether the console version supports XMPP though
<omanom> then there's some suckless options: https://mcabber.com/ https://github.com/cdidier/irssi-xmpp
<omanom> i don't know their status regarding compatibility / keeping up to date
<Guest6012> omanom: Thanks, I'll try one of them :D
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<omanom> there's also bitlebee https://wiki.bitlbee.org/
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<acheam> irssi is not suckless lmao
<acheam> i use profanity
<acheam> but idk how it compares to mcabber
<phoebos> mcabber was /slightly/ more difficult to package and use for me, compared to profanity
<acheam> really?
<acheam> hmm it uses m4
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<noocsharp> acheam: you installed prosidy on openbsd?