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<GalaxyNova> hey testuser[m], what matrix client do you use
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<davidgarland> about got MultiMC working on GKISS now: https://i.imgur.com/uJLb0cw.png
<davidgarland> window doesn't capture the mouse though, so I can't actually look around
<davidgarland> it might be a problem with dwl specifically, but in trying to build sway I run into issues compiling pcre-- does anyone else get that or is that a GKISS specific issue (or worse, an issue only on my machine? xP)
<GalaxyNova> yo!
<GalaxyNova> that's amazing
<davidgarland> all I did was mess with some build scripts, this is mostly due to https://github.com/Admicos/minecraft-wayland (and testuser and dilyn for pointing out how to get libGL set up)
<GalaxyNova> I've tried dwl but it's too behind sway
<GalaxyNova> they don't even have drag and drop yet
<davidgarland> yeah-- I do miss my old dwm+st setup a little bit, but the novelty of switching to wayland has been fun so far
<GalaxyNova> yes indeed
<GalaxyNova> I'll definetly give dwl another change in a few months to see if it's matured
<davidgarland> one of the folks on the dwl discord has told me there's a patch for it so gonna try that
<davidgarland> (pointer constraints, that is)
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<davidgarland> the patch works :) hooray
<GalaxyNova> nice
<GalaxyNova> the pull request adding drag and drop is open for 28 days without activity
<davidgarland> rip
<davidgarland> maybe they'd argue that should be a patch
<davidgarland> if even things like pointer constraints are a patch
<davidgarland> given that I did not previously have a word for that, it was just a thing that I expected to work
<davidgarland> even DWM had that out of the box
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<testuser[m]> Hi
<testuser[m]> GalaxyNova: gomuks on pc
<testuser[m]> i'm working on my own client aswell, soon tm
<davidgarland> hallo
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<acheam> hi testuser[m]
<acheam> ooh nice
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<GalaxyNova> testuser[m]: Ah, I've tried gomuks before. The biggest problem I've had with it is the images
<GalaxyNova> block character pixelated images are cool but not exactly the best for functionality
<GalaxyNova> it would be nice to be able to open images in a file viewer or smt
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<testuser[m]> You can disable it
<testuser[m]> With /toggle
<GalaxyNova> oh
<GalaxyNova> nice
<GalaxyNova> idealy it should use something like w3m or ueberzug
<GalaxyNova> to be able to view the images directly in the terminal
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<acheam> ew
<acheam> images in the terminal are :<<<<<
<testuser[m]> I don't think those 2 work on wayland even though they're terminal based methods, and launching another terminal program inside a terminal program usually doesn't go well
<acheam> wow theres so much I dislike about that photo :)
<testuser[m]> lol
<GalaxyNova> oh
<GalaxyNova> unfortunate
<testuser[m]> What don't you like though
<testuser[m]> The quality seems fine
<acheam> wayland, bitmap font, hyper-colorized prompt, gif images, potentially Zsh
<acheam> all personal preferences ofc
<testuser[m]> Bruh im just talking about the image
<GalaxyNova> I use bitmap font...
<GalaxyNova> O_O
<acheam> oh thats fine :)
<acheam> to testuser[m], that was
<acheam> im also using a bitmap font rn, idk why I said it
<acheam> lol
<acheam> but the concept its displaying is cool
<GalaxyNova> displaying images at decent resolutions in gomuks would be the dream
<acheam> interesting so sixel was used to display bitmaps on vt200s
<testuser[m]> notcurses does support sixel stuff though so it's definitely possible
<acheam> so pretty old
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<riteo> hiiiiiiii!
<testuser[m]> hi rieto
<testuser[m]> riteo
<riteo> hi testuser!
<testuser[m]> long time
<riteo> yeah
<riteo> omg a terry davis quote
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<riteo> this channel gone to a whole new level with it
<riteo> s/gone/got/
<cotangent> <riteo> this channel got to a whole new level with it
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<aws> o/
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<aws> I'm testing the relay, sorry if I am making a bit of noise
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<testuser[m]> has anyone on other distros encountered 'Failed to create a proxy for the screen cast portal: Unknown or unsupported transport “disabled” for address “disabled:”' when trying to use screen sharing with poopwire on wayland ? I installed all this junk but it just don't work :/
<testuser[m]> dbus is running
<testuser[m]> and xdg-desktop-portal and xdg-desktop-portal-wlr
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<testuser[m]> meh chromium just shows a black screen and firefox keeps segfaulting
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<dilyn> testuser[m]: re chromium shows a black screen
<dilyn> is it a snap? did you enable the pipewire capture flag in chrome://flags?
<testuser[m]> by show a black screen i mean the app that's using screen sharing shows the presented screen as empty
<testuser[m]> i enabled pipewire flag
<testuser[m]> and its a kiss chromium
<testuser[m]> i even built it with dbus support
<testuser[m]> and rtc_use_pipewire
<dilyn> interesante
<dilyn> i had a similar thing but 1) wayland is disabled in the chromium snap and 2) no pipewire in the snap :(
<dilyn> but our issues are unrelated, more than likely
<dilyn> the screen is completely black? mine at least showed my mouse
<testuser[m]> yeah it just give a blank screen to the website, and shows this floating sway window saying that "xyz is sharing the screen" or somethin
<testuser[m]> and when choosing what to present everything is empty there aswell
<testuser[m]> if you click on white space it gives option to share the screen
<testuser[m]> so its completely broken
<dilyn> womp womp
<testuser[m]> is there any plan by ayyland/poopwire devs to remove dbus dependency ?
<dilyn> highly unlikely
<dilyn> it's the most convenient way to handle IPC
<testuser[m]> pozzed
<testuser[m]> guess ill just stick to sharing a single tab
<testuser[m]> works without this stuff
<dilyn> yeah i decided to build my own chromium snap to resolve this stuff (because why use chrome!) and I needed to share my whole screen from work
<dilyn> build finished and then I realized there was a typo in the launcher file, and I can't find a way to add the fixed file to the snap without rebuilding the whole thing :)
<dilyn> should've built in --destructive mode, because then it's trivial smh
<testuser[m]> dont they insist that you use ubuntu or something :p
<dilyn> indeed they do
<dilyn> i setup qemu on my machine for an ubuntu vm to build this snap in because I'll be fucked if I do it on my laptop, which has graciously sacrificed itself for the Greater Canonical Good(tm)
<dilyn> desktop-portal is fickle, but KDE sets these vars for me :V
<testuser[m]> yeah i set that in every single terminal where im launching all the trash daemon stuff xdg-desktop-whatever
<dilyn> and you don't have the easy out of 'just use an older pipewire' because they fixed it in chromium 90 (:
<dilyn> life == ruff
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<noocsharp> sway doesn't exit when i click the "Yes, exit sway" button on the dialog
<noocsharp> does this happen for anyone else?
<noocsharp> it appears that swaymsg can't find the wayland socket when run under these conditions for whatever reason
<testuser[m]> That should mean it's ded
<testuser[m]> Does $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR/wayland-1 exist
<noocsharp> yes
<testuser[m]> Weird
<noocsharp> my guess is it's environment is getting borked somehow
<testuser[m]> Yea
<noocsharp> its*
<noocsharp> hmm, this happens even when i run a non-graphical program, so i think it's an issue with swaynag
<noocsharp> swaynag... runs the program in a terminal emulator instead of running it directly!?
<noocsharp> and since my $TERMINAL is still set to st, it can't open the X display, so swaymsg fails to run
<noocsharp> but if $TERMINAL is unset then it runs it using execvl... wtf
<omanom> swaynag is skynet confirmed, you can't stop it!
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<noocsharp> maybe it's like that because that's what i3 does, but doesn't make much sense to me
<noocsharp> if i wanted something run in my terminal emulator, i would tell it to explicitly spawn a terminal
<testuser[m]> export TERMINAL=/bin/true
<noocsharp> well i set my terminal emulator to foot, but it swaynag assumes that a terminal has a -e option, which foot doesn't
<testuser[m]> Is there a pure C non gtk gui toolkit that supports both ayyland and X ?
<dilyn> uuuuhhhh
<dilyn> no, probably not
<testuser[m]> Found it
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<omanom> >This software is available under 2 licenses -- choose whichever you prefer
<omanom> interesting
<dilyn> how this toolkit look so good tho
<noocsharp> wait that's incredible
<noocsharp> maybe i can finally write graphical applications
<omanom> looks like you can make your own skin "spritesheet" and it renders it?
<noocsharp> wait it doesn't depend on gl, does it?
<noocsharp> oh, i guess they just used gl for rendering
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<riteo> omg I just saw that GUI toolkit
<riteo> it looks amazing
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<acheam> if i'm going to have graphical programs i'd much rather them all be under one toolkit
<acheam> which in my case means gtk3
<acheam> because firefox
<acheam> or potentially gtk2, if palememe
<acheam> but nuklear is a very very cool project
<acheam> its very friendly to program in, i've heard
<acheam> and has tons of bindings
<acheam> even in languages like chicken scheme
<acheam> noocsharp: you mean graphical applications beyond directly using wayland?
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<noocsharp> yeah, i mean it's painful to write graphical wayland programs using raw wld or something
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