<riteo>
I DID NOT NOTICE THEY WERE OFF AND TAB-COMPLETED AGAIN
<riteo>
hoping EliSoli reads the log, I was saying. You are probably using the native package from kiss, which forces the alsa backend and nothing more
<riteo>
the configuration file you put basically allows pipewire to emulate alsa, I think.
<sewn>
buh
<sewn>
phoebos: cool stuff but who doesn't have mpv
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<riteo>
sewn: IIRC mpv used ffmpeg, which not everybody wants
<riteo>
no idea if it can do dedicated decoding
<sewn>
why...???
<sewn>
why wouldn't you want ffmpeg
<riteo>
it's quite complicated if all you want is to decode flacs
<riteo>
it has a crapton of amazing features; amazing, yeah, but a crapton still
<riteo>
also this seems to have an ipc of sort just like aria2c, although text only
<riteo>
it seems very elegant
<riteo>
pretty lil program!
<sewn>
buh
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<EliSoli>
Is there anybody using flatpak?
<EliSoli>
I installed OBS Studio and I'm running with `bwrap flatpak run com.obsproject.Studio` and it's saying: "bwrap: execvp flatpak: No such file or directory"
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<EliSoli>
Fixed
<EliSoli>
btw, is it normal not to be able to join Twitch on KISS?
<EliSoli>
It says "Your browser is not currently supported. Please use a recommended browser or learn more here."
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<riteo>
EliSoli: yea me, I use flatpak on KISS
<kris_>
i think they left
<riteo>
I have no idea why it should kick you out. Perhaps it uses DRM? That'd be weird though
<riteo>
yea but I suppose they read the logs
<riteo>
I hope at least
<kris_>
oh true i forget this is logged
<riteo>
nw
<kris_>
cheapest decent AP i can find that is vlan aware is $90
<kris_>
pain
<riteo>
wait does that matter
<riteo>
like, why should an AP care about vlan
<riteo>
that's supposed to be transparent isn't it
<kris_>
im kinda mapping out different setups in my mind right now to decide what i intend on doing
<kris_>
basically, i need to have a vlan for my family devices and a vlan for my personal shit
<kris_>
which is simple, get a managed switch and create two vlans, but access points are annoying with this
<kris_>
i'm missing the part where i can somehow split a single AP that isn't vlan aware to be used for both vlans
<kris_>
without some hacky bullshit
<riteo>
ooooh I see
<riteo>
so like you want to make two wireless networks
<kris_>
basically
<riteo>
how's the cheapest AP?
<riteo>
maybe you could buy two of them lol
<riteo>
non vlan aware I mean
<kris_>
i mean i could do that i guess since i already have 1
<kris_>
via my current consumer asus router in AP mode
<riteo>
yea
<kris_>
or i could just get one for $90 that supports up to 8 SSIDs
<kris_>
which can be split to 8 vlans if i so desire lol
<riteo>
oh wow that's impressive
<riteo>
well I guess it depends on your requirements really
<kris_>
yeah ive been reading spec sheets for like 6 hours
<kris_>
part of the problem here is supporting old devices since my father refuses to leave windows 7
<riteo>
understandable
<riteo>
anything after windows 7 is crap
<kris_>
it's totally not understandable
<kris_>
like i get that approach but windows 10 IoT LTSC is supported for like another 6 years or some shit
<kris_>
and is probably less bloated than win 7 lol
<riteo>
eh
<riteo>
i'd argue that win 7 is more performant on whathever he's using
<kris_>
he has modern enough hardware
<kris_>
some 4c8t haswell xeon and a quadro M2000M with 32gb of ram and hella SSD storage
<riteo>
oh.
<riteo>
yea that's plenty
<kris_>
he just *will not do it*
<kris_>
he's worse than i am with the hating microsoft shit
<riteo>
why not linux then
<kris_>
and can't use linux because he needs autodesk software for work
<riteo>
oh I see
<riteo>
is that just a driver issue?
<riteo>
like, what do you mean by "supporting old hardware"?
<kris_>
i misspoke, software
<riteo>
oh ok
<kris_>
i don't want that machine on the same network as the rest of my stuff
<kris_>
and windows 7 outright wont connect to a network that's in wpa2/wpa3 compatibility mode
<riteo>
that makes a lotta sense lol
<kris_>
so i have to just drop to wpa2
<riteo>
that stuff is one day going to be like unpatched win xp
<riteo>
plug in the internet, explodes
<kris_>
try telling him that :p
<kris_>
i do what i can with really strict firewall rules
<riteo>
perhaps you could try installing a vm on linux for autodesk stuff
<kris_>
ive gone through all of the potential solutions with him and he just won't so
<riteo>
aight
<kris_>
it's kinda at the point where i'm like "alright bro i guess ill buy a bunch of network gear we don't need"
<kris_>
so the issue rn is that i have zero vlan support
<kris_>
anyway
<riteo>
well if that's the only thing I genuinely believe that you could just put the old router in AP mode into one vlan
<riteo>
and like everything else with whatever AP you find
<riteo>
no reason to buy a fancy AP if that's all you need IMO
<riteo>
KISS :P
<kris_>
the machine i'm picking up to be a router is kinda ridiculous lol
<kris_>
4c8t first gen ryzen, 8gb of ram, it's a thin client with a pcie slot
<kris_>
hp t740
<riteo>
how much did that cost
<kris_>
$90
<riteo>
crazy
<kris_>
brand new too
<riteo>
we have seriously solved computers
<riteo>
that's too much power for $90
<kris_>
companies offload them by the hundreds on ebay
<kris_>
like specifically the hp t740
<riteo>
I mean, getting anything weaker would cost more so, at this point
<riteo>
that's not that ridiculous ig
<kris_>
nic i'm getting is an intel x540-t2
<kris_>
$20 10 gig dual port nic
<kris_>
it's insane
<riteo>
wtf
<riteo>
last time I checked stuff costed a crapton
<riteo>
for 110 you get something better than most routers
<riteo>
that's crazy
<kris_>
it's powerful enough that i totally could put XYZ distro on it and run kvm VMs for all of my network stuff
<kris_>
routing is incredibly cheap and i only have gigabit
<kris_>
i would just get a gig nic if it wasnt also $20
<riteo>
lmao
<riteo>
this whole setups really says something
<kris_>
what's that
<riteo>
no I mean like the "computers are solved" thing I said before
<kris_>
o
<riteo>
want to get a cheap pc: get a monstrous thing
<riteo>
want to get a chea pnic: get 10 fcking gbits
<kris_>
yeah its kind of insane how much compute for basically nothing
<riteo>
that's really cool
<riteo>
like, you could find raspis at that price nowadays
<riteo>
yeye
<kris_>
ya its wild
<kris_>
idk as for my desktop build i definitely spent too much
<kris_>
worth it but my motherboard alone was like $320
<kris_>
anyway as for just buying a cheapo AP to do the job, eventually this asus router is going to stop getting firmware updates and that's mega concerning
<kris_>
i bought this in like 2019
<riteo>
I see
<kris_>
which would put me in the position of maintaining my own openwrt build for it since they don't have support for this one specifically
<riteo>
that's the whole point so yea fancy AP it is then
<kris_>
either that or just keep cycling cheapo APs to replace the other
<kris_>
one stops getting firwmare updates == replace it
<kris_>
rinse and repeat
<riteo>
lol that's not a bad idea
<riteo>
I mean the fancy AP will too one day stop getting firmware updates
<kris_>
right now i'm looking at the netgear WAX615PA
<kris_>
i hate to say this but it is on sale quite heavily at $90, usually these things are like $180-200
<kris_>
ubiquiti equipment is an instant no from me because it's like "no you don't get a webui, download our fancy little app to configure your network"
<riteo>
bruh
<kris_>
the moment i need to use my phone to configure something i'm out
<riteo>
yea
<kris_>
at least ubiquiti makes sense for like mass deployments i guess because the whole point is centralized management for hundreds of devices at once