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<acheam> uhh some weird stuff happening
<acheam> on bootup, am logged automatically into a root console, but its not a tty
<acheam> not sure what I changed
<acheam> The reboot, power off, etc commands aren't working
<acheam> can't switch ttys with ctrl alt number
<acheam> oh I'm an idiot the boot log explains everything
<acheam> never mind me
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<testuser[m]1> Hi
<testuser[m]1> micr0 hmm that's weird, are you using the exact same build file as in my repo ?
<kiedtl> \/26
<kiedtl> oops
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<acheam> irclogs.armaanb.net now has the freenode logs
<acheam> not sure how helpful it will be given you have to access it by date though lol
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<Sweets> hmm
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<Sweets> .
<acheam> ?
<Sweets> for some reason I can't identify my nickname
<Sweets> but I'm guessing it's fine?
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<konimex> according to an announcement services is under maintenance so there's that
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<kimerus> Hi guys
<kimerus> How can i disable ttys?
<testuser[m]1> Comment them out in the init scripts
<testuser[m]1> Why do you want to
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<kimerus> testuser[m]1: i have one 2 ttys and don't use one
<kimerus> This is why
<kimerus> And don't know more what is given me the 20mb ram
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<kimerus> So if i can disable something to get less ram, i will disable
<testuser[m]1> Lol i don't think disabling 1 tty is gonna do anything
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<omanom> have you tried to check what is using your RAM? maybe then you can narrow down what has changed
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<kimerus> omanom: i checked in htop
<kimerus> But nothing anormal
<kimerus> In init runsvdir -P with mdev and eiwd
<kimerus> bin/sh -- /usr/bin/sx
<kimerus> sowm
<kimerus> And /bin/getttt 38400 tty2
<kimerus> And all xorg stuff
<kimerus> Seems normal to me
<omanom> none of them are using an extra 20MB more?
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<kimerus> None
<kimerus> I think exactly is libudev-zero or udev shit
<kimerus> Something funny i see now
<kimerus> When i use mdev with libudev-zero it had no difference compared when i use udev
<kimerus> So why is this happen, i don't fucking know
<kimerus> And the replacing udev article changes nothing
<omanom> what made you notice the difference?
<kimerus> So
<kimerus> Last days i update my kiss
<kimerus> The libudev-zero package get update
<kimerus> When i reboot i see htop to view ram usage
<kimerus> And i see 20mb extra
<omanom> that was the only package that got updated?
<omanom> and you know for sure it was 20MB less prior to updating that package?
<kimerus> I don't remember well but i think it had 3 packages, one are rustc but i don't finished the build
<kimerus> But man
<omanom> like maybe you had updated a day or two prior and just hadn't noticed it yet
<kimerus> I made a reinstall of kiss
<kimerus> And had the same issue
<kimerus> I think yeah, for sure is eudev or something
<omanom> as in you wiped the hdd and reinstalled?
<kimerus> When i removed it in every kiss install and use libudev-zero i get ~130mb
<kimerus> Now i get ~150mb
<kimerus> Yeah i wiped all ssd
<omanom> what's your graphical environment?
<kimerus> Xorg
<kimerus> Sowm
<omanom> do you use wifi?
<kimerus> Yeah eiwd
<kimerus> But use it for mounths and nothing change
<omanom> did you compare the RAM usage when no X server is started?
<kimerus> Not in previous kiss install
<kimerus> Just compared it with the fresh install i made
<kimerus> But i don't get any information with that, so yeah pretty fucked
<kimerus> But the thing is
<kimerus> Why when i use eudev and when i don't use it
<kimerus> I had no difference?
<omanom> kind of makes me think it isn't libudev-zero, then
<testuser[m]1> It isn't, he checked the difference in the old and new ver
<kimerus> What?
<kimerus> Oh yeah
<kimerus> Right right
<kimerus> But i think
<kimerus> Is eudev
<kimerus> Or some link problem
<omanom> did you load a saved kernel config when you compiled it when reinstalling?
<kimerus> Hm
<kimerus> Not exactly
<kimerus> I just cp the saved config to the new kernel
<omanom> and then ran make?
<kimerus> Yeah
<kimerus> Make menuconfig
<kimerus> And then i check if is all okay
<kimerus> And make the kernel
<omanom> Based on the commit log here: https://github.com/kiss-community/repo/commits/master
<omanom> there were changes to libudev-zero, rust, mesa, and sqlite
<omanom> do you use mesa?
<kimerus> Yeah
<kimerus> I did the update in 18 june
<omanom> did you have the extra ram usage prior to that update?
<omanom> because of the packages listed, mesa would be the first one i'd suspect
<kimerus> Noup
<kimerus> I had not extra ram prior
<kimerus> Just post update
<kimerus> Yeah maybe mesa
<kimerus> But so why i had no difference between eudev and libudev-zero
<omanom> well, why /would/ there be a difference?
<kimerus> Is like i said everytime when i made this change i see a ram difference
<kimerus> Because why eudev and mdev will be no difference in usage?
<omanom> again, why /would/ there be a difference?
<omanom> perhaps i am a little confused with what you're reporting. based on your statements, you saw no difference between eudev and libudev-zero and mdev? so what makes you suspect something in there being at fault?
<kimerus> Because when i use libudev-zero with mdev
<kimerus> I noticed everytime
<kimerus> A differecen in ram
<kimerus> Compared when i use just eudev
<kimerus> I made install of kiss for more than just one time and everytime i see the same
<kimerus> And why will not be ram difference between udev and mdev with libudev-zero
<omanom> there shouldn't be a 20MB difference in RAM usage between those
<testuser[m]1> Yeah the device manager won't even take near 20mb ram total
<omanom> can you try an older mesa version to see if you still have that usage
<omanom> just to rule that out
<kimerus> Yeah 20mb maybe is big but what is the ideal?
<kimerus> Because when i try is like 0 ram difference
<omanom> i wouldn't expect more than a few MB. Say... 5.
<kimerus> Yeah
<kimerus> So i just drop it
<kimerus> If its mesa
<kimerus> I will be with mesa update
<kimerus> And you gays said is not libudev-zero or eudev
<kimerus> So its closed
<omanom> we didn't say it /wasn't/, we were trying to narrow it down and understand why you thought it /was/
<kimerus> What are the older version of mesa?
<omanom> 21.1.2 was the previous one
<kimerus> Okay
<kimerus> I will check
<testuser[m]1> omanom are you working on the actual piss project
<omanom> i was playing around with it, just to do it
<omanom> not as a formal project/effort though
<omanom> testuser[m]1 here's what i have so far: https://0x0.st/-LgD.py
<testuser[m]1> Lol not that
<testuser[m]1> You did the kiss search thingy right
<testuser[m]1> Or was it this one only
<omanom> yeah, i got search and list done
<omanom> i wanted to reorganize stuff though. originally i was doing almost a line-by-line port, i'd like to attack it from a different angle
<omanom> everything (so far) has been implementable through standard libs, but the time it takes to import them just kills performance compared to the normal shell script
<testuser[m]1> Just `import asyncio` to go big fast, compensate for slow imports
<omanom> there's not really anything to make asynchronous though, "unfortunately"
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<testuser[m]1> Joke
<omanom> lmao whoosh, sorry
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<kimerus> Compiled mesa 21.1.2
<kimerus> No difference
<omanom> darn :( thank you for trying
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<acheam> any eiwd users here? the package in community and midfavila's repo doesnt install iwctl, so how am I supposed to control it?
<kimerus> See eiwd article
<kimerus> In k1sslinux.org
<kimerus> Easy do connect wifi
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<claudia> acheam, It just works.
<acheam> not for me :(
<claudia> you can start and stop the eiwd service.
<acheam> I am running the service, but its still disconnected
<claudia> Yeah, on my end I have to fiddle with the network name because my ssid contains spaces -.-
<acheam> mine is pretty straight forward, no spaces, standard wpa
<testuser[m]1> How big is that image
<claudia> have you tried the service?
<acheam> testuser[m]1: 11mb my phone makes massive images and videos
<acheam> blame the lineageos devs for that
<testuser[m]1> Lol it's still only half loaded
<acheam> claudia: yes but not thoroughly
<acheam> lol
<omanom> there's a way to go directly through imagemagick's convert tool but i don't remember it
<omanom> hm but then you wouldn't be able to share it, since you don't have wifi lol never mind
<acheam> lol yes I know how to take a screenshot
<acheam> I use maim
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<acheam> but I dont want to start up WPA supplicant and dhcpcd just for a picture
<acheam> no luck with the service
<acheam> network unreachable still
<acheam> and I dont know where to find relevant logs, etc
<omanom> do you have openresolv installed as well?
<omanom> also double-check the date and time are correct, i had that issue once
<acheam> yes and yes
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<omanom> all the service script does is `exec iwd -d`, you could try running that to see if its picking up your configuration
<omanom> well in your case itd be `doas iwd -d`
<acheam> trying that now
<acheam> hmm looks like it does factually connect
<acheam> it says "old stste: connexting, new state: connected"
<acheam> so maybe openresolv is the issue
<acheam> dhcpcd says no valid interfaces found
<acheam> resolvconf -l wlan0 returns
<omanom> what does `ip a` say your wireless interface name is?
<acheam> wlan0
<omanom> ok, just wanted to confirm
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<acheam> resolvconf -l wlan0 returns no resolv.conf for interface wlan0
<omanom> you could try the same thing with dhcpcd -- run `doas dhcpcd wlan0`
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<acheam> dhcpcd runs, but doesn't generate a resolv.conf, and network is still unreachable
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<acheam> there is a blank etc/resolv.conf created by resolvconf/open resolve
<omanom> so you tried `doas resolvconf -u`
<testuser[m]1> Does iwd need resolvconf ?
<omanom> it uses openresolv
<testuser[m]1> Oh
<acheam> afaict for most use cases on KISS, yes
<acheam> but its not a hard dependency
<acheam> argh
<acheam> hmm manually creating resolv.conf doesnt help eithet
<acheam> all online documentation just says to use iwctl...
<omanom> does dhcpcd have any output when run manually
<acheam> sending commands to dhcpcd
<acheam> or smthng like that
<ang> unrelated: isn't eiwd kinda lacking behind iwd, considering dylans status?
<acheam> illiliti has a fork
<ang> ah nice, I will probably switch then
<ang> went with wpa_supplicant because I thought eiwd is rip
<acheam> I'd use WPA supplicant but I eventually need more than just wpa
<E5ten[m]> I'm sure this has already come up here since it seems his first contribution since the gap was over a week ago, but TIL dylan's back on github lol
<midfavila> acheam iwctl requires dbus
<midfavila> you have to write configuration files
<midfavila> iwd will automatically connect to an appropriate access point
<midfavila> i recommend using iw
<midfavila> it provides dbus-less network scanning and other useful wireless controls.
<acheam> Thanks
<midfavila> man iwd.config
<midfavila> in section five i believe
<midfavila> it allows you to set dns there
<midfavila> but resolv.conf should also work
<midfavila> i don't bother with DHCPCD because DHCP is an abomination, so you're on your own there.
<omanom> E5ten[m] yeah consensus here was we'll leave him be, and let him decide if he wants to drop back in or not
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<kimerus> Guys
<kimerus> Just fucking weird stuff happens
<kimerus> Probably is mesa
<kimerus> I just boot my kiss a few minutes ago and is okay again
<kimerus> Strange because i did the reboot when i compiled the previous mesa package
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