08:59 <cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: jasper: 4.0.0 -> 4.0.1

08:59 <cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: zam-plugins: 4.1 -> 4.2

08:59 <cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: sccache: 0.6.0 -> 0.7.0

09:01 <SiFuh> I have a 64GB USB flash drive that I wanted to burn a copy of debian 12 onto. CRUX won't let me. Says no disk space left. Even if I try to /dev/zero it out. I checked on OpenBSD and it says 64GB and I checked on an old version of Windows I think Win 7. It says 64GB.

09:29 <SiFuh> I ended up using an old version of RUFUS (3.0) on the old Win 7 laptop to get debian 12 flashed to it

12:21 <cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: texlab: 5.10.1 -> 5.11.0

13:55 <cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: papirus-folders: 1.12.1 -> 1.13.0

15:38 <ukky> SiFuh: Anything strange in dmesg or system logs?

15:40 <SiFuh> ukky: Nope, and I also have the same error for other USB drives as well.

15:41 <SiFuh> The issue is with sde. I have not tested by installing two drives to see if the issue is with sdf. Lazy to be honest.

15:42 <SiFuh> Here is another non-related issue

15:42 <SiFuh> Went into the BIOS for the MSI laptop. It says UEFI and was faded out so I was not able to change it. I pressed L ALT+R CTRL+R SHIFT+F2 to get into advanced mode. I set it to LEGACY and then when I rebooted the BIOS vanished completely. Hehe. Had to take the laptop apart. Unplug the CMOS Battery to factory reset it to get it to come back. I tried with UEFI+LEGACY and I tried with CSM and still same. It only

15:42 <SiFuh> shows the BIOS when I am in UEFI mode.

15:43 <SiFuh> This is not the laptop running CRUX by the way. The thing I dislike about this MSI laptop is that it only scans for EFI partitions on external drives. It never scans for the NVME drive. I have to boot into Linux and use efibootmgr to program the UEFI to see OpenBSD's EFI partition on the NVME.

15:44 <ukky> This happened with me when I was working with UEFI video BIOS for ARM server

15:46 <SiFuh> ukky: Which one? Vanishing BIOS or no scan NVME? ;-)

15:46 <ukky> Vanishing BIOS. A tester disabled internal graphics, and system couldn't display anything anymore as UEFI Video BIOS for the graphics I was working on was not ported yet.

15:48 <SiFuh> I was thinking about connecting a HDMI cable because of this is idea however. if I don't try to enter bios it will get to the screen saying boot partition not found.

15:49 <ukky> Strange that your laptop does not display BIOS settings in Legacy mode.

15:51 <SiFuh> Or the fact legacy is hidden in a secret menu

15:52 <ukky> unacceptable...

15:53 <SiFuh> I agree

15:55 <ukky> SiFuh: btw, I could switch to runit for Debian 12. Couldn't switch to SysV init, didn't follow through to figure out.

15:55 <SiFuh> I dumped Debian 12 already because so slow to boot

16:00 <ukky> That's because you used systemd :-)

16:02 <SiFuh> Well of course.

16:03 <SiFuh> Still can't figure out why the big distros went the faggot route

16:07 <ukky> imho, because it's easier to learn single tool. Not many people are curious to find out details how things work

16:57 <cruxbot> [core.git/3.7]: exim: update to 4.97

17:33 <jaeger> That's weird, sounds like something wrong with the laptop itself or its UEFI/BIOS

17:49 <SiFuh> jaeger: it is MSI, that explains it ;-)

18:04 <jaeger> heh

18:05 <jaeger> I've only owned one MSI laptop that I can recall and it did have some oddities, though I don't remember specifics now

18:11 <SiFuh> jaeger: I doubt I will buying another laptop again. Tired of the crap. Lack of standards and such. I was thinking about the thinkpad, but as I said, growing tired.

18:12 <SiFuh> I lost interest in phones as well. It seems they only just rape away our lives.

18:17 <jaeger> I still find it useful to have a laptop now and then but I certainly don't need anything big or powerful. Still happy with my xiaomi one from a few years ago

18:20 <SiFuh> jaeger: I will explain. IN the 80's when we go the 8086 XT we noticed that you can spend a short amount of time doing something but you'd lose hours of time. That's a lot for a kid.

18:20 <SiFuh> It hasn't changed

18:22 <SiFuh> This shit is chewing up my life. I have had enough. I want to go jungle, camping, BMX and other stuff. I don't want this, sitting in front a PC cursing at it because it isn't doing what I want

18:33 <SiFuh> tarxvfz: doesn't do bz2?

19:23 <jaeger> No need to explain, I fully understand that. Time is important

19:25 <cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: objfw: 1.0.4 -> 1.0.5

19:25 <SiFuh> jaeger: I thought it was alcohol that was taking it from me. I even stopped for awhile but then I realised it wasn't it was the damned PC.

19:27 <SiFuh> When I go jungle, I bring the truck and the beer and the camping stuff. It is all good. I go home and it is Computer..... Computer.... Computer.... and I am thinking, 5 more minutes and I go wash the greenhouse. 10 minutes later I think the same thing. 30 minutes the same. Never ending dead end

19:28 <SiFuh> I got Void on a USB and I want to introduce OpenCL and I upgrade Void and it no longer boots.... WTF man? So I download a specific distro and 4 days pass and still can't get it to boot. Today I got it to boot about 1/18th of the way.

19:30 <SiFuh> But the thing is it is an never ending line of failure. So it doesn't boot.. Oh maybe it needs legacy. Configure MSI to boot legacy and it dies. So I am now trying to get it to boot, take out the screws and pull the CMOS battery and try again. Oh wait, it just killed my OpenBSD entry. Got to reconfigure that. Shit, I need a Linux distro that can get efiboomgr really quickly... and time and time and time is

19:30 <SiFuh> sucked away from you.

19:31 <SiFuh> Now USB drive doesn't want to work, okay let's get a new one. Then 8MB in Linux but 64GB in OpenBSD/Windows.

19:31 <SiFuh> It's just a constant drag.

19:31 <SiFuh> Arlo Guthrie can write a song shorter than that

19:32 <SiFuh> ukky: By the way. I did decide to test that idea. If it is sdf it is fine. If it is sde it registers as 8MB

19:35 <SiFuh> jaeger: It is stupid because you set out to do one thing and then you end up having solver 500 other shitful things

19:36 <SiFuh> I can solve a Rubik'c cube in less than 2 minutes but install a distro on freaking USB disk is a problem?

19:37 <SiFuh> Sorry for my ranting

20:49 <ukky> SiFuh: If you use udev, any custom USB-related rules in /etc/udev/rules.d?

21:39 <cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: neatvnc: 0.7.0 -> 0.7.1

21:39 <cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: wayvnc: 0.7.1 -> 0.7.2

22:43 <SortedSand_> Is crux still alive?

22:44 <SortedSand_> who maintains the website.

22:44 <SortedSand_> All these communities links are dead:

22:44 <SortedSand_> Facebook

22:44 <SortedSand_> LinkedIn

22:44 <SortedSand_> last.fm

22:44 <SortedSand_> Ohloh

22:45 <jaeger> crux is certainly still alive. All of those are unofficial, guess they've been abandoned.

22:46 <jaeger> Thanks for the heads up, will remove those links

22:46 <SortedSand_> Cool

23:03 <SiFuh> Damn, left before I could say jaeger is a ghost. `