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<remiliascarlet> joe9: I use Nasm, because that one comes by default on a lot of distro's (I guess), but reading a bit more, it looks like Yasm is a good one, since that one supports multiple compiler-specific syntaxes.
<remiliascarlet> He missed his golden opportunity of shilling for Invidious, GTK Pipe Viewer, or even loading YouTube links into MPV or VLC, which would be way more in line with his channel's philosophy than "just install some shady Firefox extension, and continue using the extremely proprietary YouTube website".
<remiliascarlet> One thing I was asked about by a friend: how does one generate a .signature file instead of .md5sum like in all the first party ports trees (core, contrib, and so on)?
<brian|lfs> actually regardless of signature or no signature md5s are required I believe.
<brian|lfs> I don't bother with signatures its just an extra layer to worry about not worth the effort
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<remiliascarlet> The first party trees don't come with .md5sum. I told her to not worry about it too, but she really wants to have her ports collection as correct as possible.
<farkuhar> remiliascarlet: point your friend to https://crux.nu/Wiki/SignedPorts and the signify(1) manpage.
<SiFuh> But .md5sum's are deprecated. So if she wants to use them then she is no longer correct as possible
<SiFuh> That's like Toyota saying the original muffler for your car is to be recalled and replaced with a new model. But to be as correct as possible you install the second muffler keeping the original as well.
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<farkuhar> It's more like Toyota offering everybody a replacement muffler, but only issuing a recall for cars that have parking permits at Toyota headquarters (what remiliascarlet calls "first party ports trees"). Anyone who doesn't work at Toyota would still be able to keep driving with the old muffler (despite what the wiki page says about dropping md5sum support in future versions of pkgutils).
<SiFuh> Heh, didn't read the full conversation. Was busy painting walls.
<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: git: update to 2.43.0
<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: firefox-bin: update to 120.0
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Hahaha
<SiFuh> That's 'cause they'all be gay
<SiFuh> Apart from his annoying mood swing acting and crying, the only thing I dislike is how he hates it when people give him credit for everything he does but he spends 20 minutes to an hour almost every episode explaining how he had warned you, told you, discovered, gave you and so on..
<SiFuh> It's like he loves giving himself credit but hates hearing others credit him.
<SiFuh> Not saying he doesn't deserve credit though. Everything he has been through he totally does and has the right too. Dudes an American legend as far as I am concerned. In fact I find most people don't even know who the Sandy Hook shooter was but automatically think Alex Jones when it is mentioned
<remiliascarlet> Alex Jones is hillarious, I have no idea how he can keep up his voice for such a long time.
<remiliascarlet> He was right a few times, but the vast majority of those are what anyone with at least 2 braincells can figure out.
<remiliascarlet> Other than that, he's controlled opposition.
<SiFuh> He ain't controlled
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<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: firefox: 119.0.1 -> 120.0
<remiliascarlet> farkuhar: Highly erotic.
<remiliascarlet> farkuhar: Sorry, I mean thanks for the link, I'll let her know.
<remiliascarlet> (Damn you autocorrect.)
<SiFuh> How did autocorrect change "Thanks for the link, I'll let her know." ?
<remiliascarlet> Just joking.
<SiFuh> Highly neurotic,
<remiliascarlet> Only the smartphone slaves and Mac fanboys/fangirls/fanmentallyillpeoplewhothinktherearemorethantwogenders use autocorrect.
<SiFuh> Heh, that reminds me of that elevator issue
<remiliascarlet> If I would use Slack, I'd block that bot. If even possible, because it's proprietary garbage.
<remiliascarlet> Slack is a little bit less evil for at least allowing you to connect to it via Weechat.
<remiliascarlet> Discord however, from what I heard, they will outright ban your account for not using the official client or website.
<SiFuh> I don't know what any of that is
<SiFuh> Except Slack I am assuming you mean slackware
<remiliascarlet> Proprietary chat programs that any healthy person should avoid like the plague.
<SiFuh> Silence, begone with your corruption. My virgin eyes do not want to read anymore corporate, proprietry propaganda. ;-)
<remiliascarlet> The only things proprietary I'm willing to accept are video games and drivers for hardware, simply because there's nothing you can do about those.
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<remiliascarlet> But other than that? Skype/Discord/Slack/whatever > IRC, WhatsApp/Telegram/LINE/MSN > XMPP, Photoshop > GIMP or Krita, Premiere Pro > Kdenlive, Visual Studio (Code) or Sublime > Neovim or Vim proper, Unity or Unreal > make my own engine, Windows or Mac > Linux or BSD, smartphone > just trash your phone if you have one.
<remiliascarlet> Websites that use Javascript and/or Cloudflare > find alternative websites.
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<SiFuh> IRC, Telegram, GIMP, Emacs, OpenBSD, THURAYA XT-LITE.
<remiliascarlet> Out of which only Telegram is proprietary. Never heard of Thuraya before.
<SiFuh> Thuraya will be proprietry
<SiFuh> THey don't give out the source code for their sattelites
<remiliascarlet> https://youtube.owacon.moe/watch?v=tOL3gfTwsTE "One day, I will make a kernel so I can travel all over the planet to rant about shit that sucks."
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<SiFuh> I would be pissed off too. Linux world is full of retarded programmers that want to get shit done rather than make it work properly
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<remiliascarlet> The more popular you become, the more retards you will get.
<SiFuh> Linus needs DeRaadt's personaltiy ;-)
<remiliascarlet> This is the reason why I prefer CRUX to remain obscure, because at least we'd have fewer retards to deal with.
<remiliascarlet> OpenBSD is gaining popularity, but the dev team is enough to keep retards away.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: There is kind of like an 'election' between the actual maintainers and the port maintainers here. If you don't get the vote you can't join.
<remiliascarlet> Didn't know about that one.
<SiFuh> Well, it ain't officialy written, it just seems to happen that way.
<remiliascarlet> From what I've heard it's more a process of "I want my ports collection to be listed" "OK fine, we'll list it", and nothing more.
<SiFuh> Yeah, but your just a self repo maintainer and not a CRUX port maintainer or a CRUX maintainer
<SiFuh> then you're*
<SiFuh> Those repos that are managed by users are technically unofficial.
<remiliascarlet> I know.
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: grafana: 10.2.1 -> 10.2.2
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: cargo-c: 0.9.27 -> 0.9.28
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: dua-cli: 2.20.2 -> 2.20.3
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: mercurial: 6.5.3 -> 6.6
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-prometheus_client: 0.18.0 -> 0.19.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-pyasn1: 0.5.0 -> 0.5.1
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-yarl: 1.9.2 -> 1.9.3; new dependency: python3-expandvars
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-expandvars: initial commit, version 0.11.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: typescript: 5.2.2 -> 5.3.2
<remiliascarlet> Out of all the Linux distro's and BSD OS's I've used, the CRUX team is by far the most relaxed. They don't seem to be so oversensitive (like OpenBSD), and at the same time won't roast you and eat you alive if you only ask a question (unlike OpenBSD).
<SiFuh> They have been conditioned to handle the likes of me since 2002 ;-)
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<remiliascarlet> https://crux.nu/Main/RetiredMembers People who have "Armstrong" as their surname always reminds me to Senator Armstrong.
<remiliascarlet> NANOMACHINES, SON!
<SiFuh> Where is Skuupi?
<remiliascarlet> Skuupi?
<SiFuh> He was cool, left a couple of decades ago
<remiliascarlet> Since you don't play video games, this is Senator Armstrong: https://youtube.owacon.moe/watch?v=TTxAlkD-xDI
<remiliascarlet> The best (fictional) politician ever.
<SiFuh> Looks like a tall version of George Costanza on steroids
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: aom: 3.7.0 -> 3.7.1
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<farkuhar> speaking of SignedPorts, if they want me to start maintaining anything in the opt repo, I'll need to have a copy of the opt private key. Hopefully jaeger still has the credentials he used to scp the contrib private key onto my system, that would be the most convenient transfer method.
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<farkuhar> RetiredMembers, heh. You can still get a reply from sip if you ask him about scripts he wrote 20 years ago. To quote an email reply I received just now, it was a "*really* nostalgic trip" to revisit the prt-utils changelog.
<SiFuh> Heh, cool
<farkuhar> in case anyone's curious, I asked sip why we still ship prtreverse and its manpage with the prt-utils tarball, yet it never gets installed under $PATH. The equivalent functionality has been provided by pkgexport for many versions now. But nobody bothered to delete sips prtreverse script from the repo.
<SiFuh> And he handed you a beer and said "Take a sip"
<SiFuh> Heh, that reminded me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpMcaE6tmpE
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