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<joe9> is there something similar to xclock in the contrib or xorg directories to test the X connection..
<joe9> ?
<farkuhar> joe9: search the portdb; I think there's already a port for xclock itself.
<joe9> I am curious if there is an alternative in contrib/xorg/opt.
<groovy2shoes> joe9, what about xfontsel?
<joe9> good idea, thanks.
<farkuhar> you could also try xorg-xev.
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<joe9> dbus is a required service when running xdm, correct?
<joe9> https://crux.nu/Wiki/FaqMiscellaneous from here, I am trying to configure the ntpdate service.
<joe9> but, I cannot find /etc/rc.d/ntpdate or a package ntpdate.
<joe9> is chrony the preferred option now?
<jaeger> I'd recommend chrony now
<jaeger> Don't think we have ntpdate around anymore, we should update that
<joe9> jaeger: would you mind sharing your rc.conf?
<joe9> I presume you have alsad running?
<joe9> oops, there is no alsad.
<joe9> the xorg resolution on my machine is messed up.
<jaeger> no alsad... I don't have anything special in my rc.conf, usually looks similar to this: http://ix.io/3TZ7
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<ppetrov^> ntfs-3g has 2 broken links: mount.ntfs and fsck.ntfs
<SiFuh> Super glue is your friend ;-)
<SiFuh> Can't verify because I am dd'ing a 1TB disk
<SiFuh> Maybe someone else can if anyone else is here
<ppetrov^> what is super glue?
<ppetrov^> also, i am just reporting an issue with a port, that's all
<ppetrov^> i had this Epiphany yesterday, that I can get fonts installed by MS Office, so used an external hard disk to copy them from my gf's laptop
<SiFuh> Yeah, I use to do that
<SiFuh> Created a folder like ~/.fonts/ and then in my X start up script xset +fp ~/.fonts/<font dir name>
<SiFuh> I had the fonts from Ubuntu, debian, windows and so on..
<SiFuh> Libreoffice would take ages to load the fonts when you were selecting fonts.
<ppetrov^> bleh
<SiFuh> Heh
<ppetrov^> it's a temporary... insanity, with me.
<SiFuh> I do a lot of logos and labels and other stuff on the side. So different fonts come in handy. Even had to make my own fonts back in the day.
<ppetrov^> wow
<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.6]: fontconfig: update to 2.14
<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.6]: scite: update to 5.2.2
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<joe9> build error in wasi-libc.
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<farkuhar> joe9: not too long ago there was a major version bump in clang and llvm, leading to build errors like the one you saw with wasi-libc. Usually after updating clang or llvm it's recommended to run revdep, and fix the broken packages that are reported.
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<joe9> ok, thanks.
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<joe9> can crux use disk uuid's? the names change when I add / remove disks.
<joe9> put the disk uuid's in lilo?
<joe9> or, does it have to be syslinux at the very least.
<ppetrov^> I have not tried it, but there are instructions for Slackware and LILO. You will need to modify /etc/fstab
<ppetrov^> however, Slackware uses a patched LILO, compiled from source, while CRIX 3.6 just repackages the binary provided from upstream
<ppetrov^> also, LILO was removed from the upcoming crux 3.7
<joe9> what is the alternative to lilo? syslinux?
<joe9> I am not a fan of grub.
<joe9> just curious what crux picks, grub or syslinux?
<ppetrov^> better ask SiFuh, I just made my own port adapted from Slackware's, so LILO would support nvme. I am not sure what I will use for 3.7
<joe9> I would like to install and try your port. Where is your repo?
<joe9> if you do not mind sharing.
<ppetrov^> hey are 4 repos, the "base" one is called "custom"
<ppetrov^> p5 has perl modules, the ports of which were auto generated by cpan2crux tool
<ppetrov^> xfce_4.12 has an old xfce, and scientific probably is not of much interest
<ppetrov^> the lilo.conf_image is my lilo.conf specific for my system, so of course, edit as you find fit. Also, I put a picture as a greeter :p
<farkuhar> joe9: if you compile your kernel with EFI_STUB enabled, you can let the BIOS itself act as a bootloader. Just save your kernel on a dedicated FAT32 partition, and use efibootmgr to let your BIOS know where it is (and the part-uuid of your root partition).
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<SiFuh> APPEND ROOT=PARTUUID="..."
<SiFuh> In syslinux
<SiFuh> If I remember correctly
<SiFuh> Nope I am wrong remove the PART part ;-)
<SiFuh> APPEND root=UUID="..."
<joe9> is slackware source based too?
<SiFuh> joe9: yes
<SiFuh> Main ISO is binary, but after everything is source
<SiFuh> And kind of very outdated but stable
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<jaeger> farkuhar: he's not booting that box in UEFI mode
<ppetrov^> joe9, no
<ppetrov^> and it is not outdated, since the newest release came out a month ago or so
<ppetrov^> the main ISO contains a very rich collection of software, the rest you grab from slackbuilds.org -- a ports-like repo
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: No
<SiFuh> The main ISO is binary and everything else is source and it is outdated software
<SiFuh> It always has been and always will be
<ppetrov^> heh
<ppetrov^> i am not going to argue
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<farkuhar> SiFuh, ppetrov^: http://ix.io/3U2D is a different workaround for the inkscape-poppler soversion mismatch. Would you be willing to test it out and let me know how it works for you?
<farkuhar> In preliminary testing it seems that (contrary to https://github.com/slackalaxy/crux-ports/blob/main/custom/inkscape-gtk2/README) the presence of poppler and poppler-glib in their 22.03 versions is NOT fatal to the final linking step.
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<ppetrov^> thanks farkuhar, i will check it in the next days
<ppetrov^> farkuhar, did you try opening a PDF?
<ppetrov^> even if it builds fine?
<ppetrov^> heh, i have a typo there --> howevver
<farkuhar> ppetrov^: I just tried opening a PDF using "internal import", and it worked fine.
<ppetrov^> by building with the fix you posted?
<ppetrov^> good, makes things less complicated
<farkuhar> Both "internal import" and "poppler/cairo import" seem to work on the PDFs I tried so far, using the fix posted above.
<ppetrov^> that's great. I will give it a try. thanks
<farkuhar> no problem. Thank beerman also; without his suggestion of installing a new gtk+ theme, I wouldn't have had a reason to look deeper at the inkscape build process.
<ppetrov^> how did the gtk+ theme lead to this? Also: thank you beerman
<farkuhar> inkscape is one of the dependencies for generating the icons.
<farkuhar> see for example the output of `prt-get quickdep arc-theme`
<ppetrov^> yes, you are absolutely right... i actualy udes it to modify 2 icon themes
<ppetrov^> i had some icons missing in a few programs, since they expected to find 48x48 png versions of the icons
<ppetrov^> i did not figure out what the problem was exactly, there were errors with libpixbufloader-svg
<ppetrov^> my guess is, it tried to use the SVG icon but failed... but nevermind, the 48x48 PNGs did the trick
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